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Article #15934Re: New Maths for Superluminal Speeds
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 06:52
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 06:52
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On 18 Aug, 05:36, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in sci.physics.relativity: > qbit wrote: > > I've always questioned the correctness of the Lorentz factor > > (ie. the 'gamma') and had proposed my own version. > > That is exceedingly difficult to do, while meeting ALL of the > requirements. Indeed, it can be shown that the only viable methods for > the local addition of velocities are as in Galilean relativity and as in > Special Relativity. > > To date, as far as I know ALL of the "superluminal sources" observed > astronomically have been shown to be only APPARENTLY superluminal, but > not actually superluminal: they are a source moving near to the > line-of-sight to earth, with a LOCAL speed less than c. Because later > light has less far to go, it can give the APPEARANCE of a superluminal > source, even though nothing actually moves faster than c, LOCALLY. > > Tom Roberts Roberts Roberts even some zombies now know that LOCALLY is used as camouflage whereas the real danger for Einstein criminal cult comes from NON-LOCALLY. Non-locally Roberts Roberts the speed of light varies with the gravitational potential, the gravitational redshift is a consequence of this variability and therefore the introduction of the so-called "gavitational time dilation" is just the result of criminal activity designed to destroy human rationality: Tom Roberts wrote in sci.physics.relativity: > Pentcho Valev wrote: > > CAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT EXCEED 300000 km/s IN A GRAVITATIONAL FIELD? > Sure, depending on the physical conditions of the measurement. It can > also be less than "300000 km/s" (by which I assume you really mean the > standard value for c). And this can happen even for an accelerated > observer in a region without any significant gravitation (e.g. in > Minkowski spacetime). > Tom Roberts tjroberts@lucent.com http://www.blazelabs.com/f-g-gcont.asp "The first confirmation of a long range variation in the speed of light travelling in space came in 1964. Irwin Shapiro, it seems, was the first to make use of a previously forgotten facet of general relativity theory -- that the speed of light is reduced when it passes through a gravitational field....Faced with this evidence, Einstein stated:"In the second place our result shows that, according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity and to which we have already frequently referred, cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position."......Today we find that since the Special Theory of Relativity unfortunately became part of the so called mainstream science, it is considered a sacrilege to even suggest that the speed of light be anything other than a constant. This is somewhat surprising since even Einstein himself suggested in a paper "On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light," Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911, that the speed of light might vary with the gravitational potential. Indeed, the variation of the speed of light in a vacuum or space is explicitly shown in Einstein's calculation for the angle at which light should bend upon the influence of gravity. One can find his calculation in his paper. The result is c'=c(1+V/c^2) where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the measurement is taken. 1+V/c^2 is also known as the GRAVITATIONAL REDSHIFT FACTOR." Pentcho Valev
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