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Re: Final Question for Sylvia Else (Inability to fullfill contract)

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From: |-|ercules
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:56
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"Richard Cornford" <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> wrote ...
> |-|ercules wrote:
>> Richard Cornford wrote
>>>
>>> It is still far too small a test set for this protocol, but if the 
>>> effect was significant you would expect to see 5 out of 5 being a
>>> common enough result to have already shown up. If the effect is no
>>> more than "better than random" then it would probably take at least
>>> a few hundred samples to decide the issue.
>>
>>
>> I suggest a 3 question set in future.
> 
> The appropriate test is determined by what it is that you are trying to 
> test for. If it is only a better than random correlation that you are 
> trying to demonstrate then a better test would be, for each question 
> (where the specific question doesn't matter much), mix the 'channelled' 
> answer with, say, 9 random quotes form the same book (so that all the 
> options have the same prose style and set of possible characters/subject 
> matter) and see if people can pick out the 'channelled' answer. Of 
> course both the 'channelled' responses and the random quotes would have 
> to follow the same word selection rules (say, from the word at the point 
> selected to the next full stop), and it would be best if someone else 
> could create the lists of random quotes.


We tried 5 options (without substitution) and the markers were too thick.

I don't think they had the concentration span to consider 25 possible matches
and pick the best one for each question.

3 options is where the distinctions in the phrases will be obvious.





> 
>> It will detect the subtle answers more readily.
>>
>> 0/3 -> 2 possibilities -> bottom 33.3%
>> 1/3 -> 3 possibilities -> top 66.6%  (2 chances out of 3 to score 1 or
>> more right)
>> 3/3 -> 1 possibility -> top 16.6%
> 
> Your figures don't add up again.

And yet you offer no solution.  Maybe you are wrong yet again.




> 
>> I can do 3 sets of 3 questions per day.
>>
>> I have to work out a FAIL benchmark.
> 
> If it is a better than random correlation then results that were no 
> better then random would be a fail.

Yes but a non psychic could float just above 50% for 100 tests without
any significant result.

So a slight benchmark above 50% is in order.

3/4 Vs the expected 2/3 (to score 1 or more from 3 options)


Herc 
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Subject: Re: Final Question for Sylvia Else (Inability to fullfill contract)
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