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Article #5292Re: Final Question for Sylvia Else (Inability to fullfill contract)
From: |-|ercules
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:56
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:56
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"Richard Cornford" <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> wrote ... > |-|ercules wrote: >> Richard Cornford wrote >>> >>> It is still far too small a test set for this protocol, but if the >>> effect was significant you would expect to see 5 out of 5 being a >>> common enough result to have already shown up. If the effect is no >>> more than "better than random" then it would probably take at least >>> a few hundred samples to decide the issue. >> >> >> I suggest a 3 question set in future. > > The appropriate test is determined by what it is that you are trying to > test for. If it is only a better than random correlation that you are > trying to demonstrate then a better test would be, for each question > (where the specific question doesn't matter much), mix the 'channelled' > answer with, say, 9 random quotes form the same book (so that all the > options have the same prose style and set of possible characters/subject > matter) and see if people can pick out the 'channelled' answer. Of > course both the 'channelled' responses and the random quotes would have > to follow the same word selection rules (say, from the word at the point > selected to the next full stop), and it would be best if someone else > could create the lists of random quotes. We tried 5 options (without substitution) and the markers were too thick. I don't think they had the concentration span to consider 25 possible matches and pick the best one for each question. 3 options is where the distinctions in the phrases will be obvious. > >> It will detect the subtle answers more readily. >> >> 0/3 -> 2 possibilities -> bottom 33.3% >> 1/3 -> 3 possibilities -> top 66.6% (2 chances out of 3 to score 1 or >> more right) >> 3/3 -> 1 possibility -> top 16.6% > > Your figures don't add up again. And yet you offer no solution. Maybe you are wrong yet again. > >> I can do 3 sets of 3 questions per day. >> >> I have to work out a FAIL benchmark. > > If it is a better than random correlation then results that were no > better then random would be a fail. Yes but a non psychic could float just above 50% for 100 tests without any significant result. So a slight benchmark above 50% is in order. 3/4 Vs the expected 2/3 (to score 1 or more from 3 options) Herc
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