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                   Welcome to sci.techniques.xtallography.
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30 November 1994
          Rationalised WWW sites to Point to new WWW Virtual Library
          Delete Los Alamos Gopher as no longer enabled.
          Automatic retrieval of past s.t.xtal articles via
            email and gopher.

14 November 1994
          How to received this newsgroup via email.
          Tentative Guidelines for posting out CV's and Resumes.
          Tentative Guidelines for Commercial Announcements.

?? October 1994.
          Free Scientist/Novice Friendly Internet Kit for 
            MS-Windows avaiable by anonymous ftp.

1.   Introduction
2.   Charter
3.   Biological Crystallography Newsgroups - 
         bionet.xtallography
         bionet.molbio.protein
         bionet.structural-nmr
         bionet.molec-model
3a.  Subscribing/Reading the Newsgroup via E-mail (no cost involved)  
            email sci_tech_xtal-Request@xtal.cmc.uab.edu
                with the subject and message :-
                    subscribe

3b   Posting to the newsgroup via E-mail (no cost involved)
            email sci.techniques.xtallography.usenet@decwrl.dec.com

4.   Maximize Readership of Articles by Cross Posting.

4a.  Free MS Windows Winsock Scientist Friendly Internet Software 
         Kit Available
               (16 Bit Mosaic WWW, Wintrumpet Winsock(TCP) and Newsreader, 
                WS_FTP, WinQVT, HGOPHER)

         Anonymous ftp to :-
             sol.dmp.csiro.au:/pub/internet

      Equivalent MAC software is also available in the /pub/mac directory.

4b   Tentative Guidelines for posting out CV's and Resumes
4c   Tentative Guidelines for Commercial Announcements. 
5.   FAQ's  (frequently asked question files)
6.   Future Desirable Actions for this Newsgroup
7.   Posting articles to this newsgroup via email
       email to sci.techniques.xtallography.usenet@decwrl.dec.com

8.   Reading this newsgroup via gopher
       Hint - Using Gopher Bookmarks
         gopher commsun.its.csiro.au (152.83.8.2)

9.   Automatic archive of posts available at Centre
     for Macromolecular Crystallography, University of Alabama 
     at Birmingham via gopher (xtal.cmc.uab.edu) and 
     email (sci_tech_xtal_archive@xtal.cmc.uab.edu).

10.   Crystallographic Related Gopher Servers 
         commsun.its.csiro.au (152.83.8.2)       - CSIRO gopher
         merlot.welch.jhu.edu (192.239.77.4)     - John Hopkins Uni.
         gopher.nmrfam.wisc.edu (144.92.18.34)   - Structural NMR
         diamond.iucr.ac.uk (192.70.242.1)       - IUCr gopher
         cuhhca.hhmi.columbia.edu                - Columbia University
         (more additions welcome)

11.  WWW World Wide Web home pages for Crystallography

       - http://www.unige.ch/crystal/crystal_index.html
                    - WWW Virtual Library: Crystallography
       - http://nexus.hwi.buffalo.edu/ACA/
                    - American Crystallographic Association
       - http://xray.uu.se/
                    - X-ray WWW Server
       - http://www.iucr.ac.uk/welcome.html      
                    - IUCr WWW Server
       - http://csdvx2.ccdc.cam.ac.uk
                    - Cambridge Crystallographic Database
       - http://arsoftware.arclch.com
                    - ARSoftware - Crystallography Software Vendor
       - http://sbchem.sunysb.edu/msl/homepage.html
                    - ACA 1995 Conference WWW Area
         (more additions welcome)

12.  Crystallographic LISTSERV related Mailing Lists (email newsgroups)

       - Brookhaven Protein Data Bank Mailing List
            email listserv@pdb.pdb.bnl.gov 
               with the subject and message 
                    subscribe pdb-l first_name last_name
       - O info server group
            email o-info-request@kaktus.kemi.aau.dk 
               with the subject and message :-
                    subscribe
       - Rietveld Users Mailing List.
            email rietveld-Request@xtal.cmc.uab.edu
                with the subject and message :-
                    subscribe

       - RAXIS Users Mailing List 
            email raxis-users-request@msc.com
                with the subject and message :-
                    subscribe your-full-email-address

       (more additions welcome)


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Comments, additions, corrections and suggestions are appreciated as either
followons to this post or via email.

Lachlan Cranswick (lachlan@dmp.csiro.au).

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INTRODUCTION

This is a semi regular posting to the unmoderated 
newsgroup, "sci.techniques.xtallography".  The main 
aim of this newsgroup is to provide an open, easily accessible, 
electronic conferencing system or bulletin board for the 
crystallographic community on the internet.  The newsgroups (in 
theory) allow queries and discussion to take place in days to weeks, 
that would take months to years (or not at all) on conventional paper 
journals.  Opportunities for informal discussion and exchange of 
information and opinions that might only occur at international 
conferences can routinely take place on the internet newsgroups.

Participants are welcome and encouraged to browse, read, follow-on, 
post, and use this newsgroup as an information server, discussion area 
and electronic conferencing system to its maximum advantage.  Being an 
unmoderated newsgroup, no one owns or runs this newsgroup so.  Thus 
participants should feel uninhibited to freely use this crystallographic 
discussion forum.

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                            CHARTER 

Following is part of the original charter for this newsgroup written up 
during the newsgroup creation process.  The main emphasis being 
that this newsgroup is a discussion area for anything relevant to the 
scientific discipline of crystallography.

It should be noted that concerns have been raised about participants
avoiding the peer-review process by publishing structures on this
discussion area that might be incorporated into crystallographic 
databases.  As around two out of five submitted structures have problems 
or errors, it is thus recommended that this newsgroup not be used to 
publish raw results and data that would normally go via the peer-review 
process.


Topics for discussion include:
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Powder diffraction (neutron/X-rays)
Single crystal diffraction
Electron diffraction
Crystal Structure determination
Structure determination
Rietveld Refinement
Software 
Data formats
Databases
Hardware/Equipment - specs, alignment, opinions, etc.
Phase Identification - search match software/techniques/....
Discussion of complementary/confirmatory  techniques :-
         e.g.:- SEM, XRF, MicroProbe, AFM, STM, Optical Microscopy......
Applications to the fields of Mineralogy, Geology, 
         Physics, Chemistry, Industry, etc.
Announcements/reviews of papers/conferences.
Preparation techniques.
Non-ambient techniques (high-pressure/temperature/??)
Discussion on the accuracy/validity of various structures
         and reference patterns.
General Discussion/opinions/questions.
Synchrotron radiation
Positions vacant
Crystallographic texture determination
Biological crystallography and applications
TEM (Transmission Electron Microscopy)
Structural analysis of disordered (i.e. amorphous) materials.

Anything else that is relevant to crystallography in general.

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BIONET NEWSGROUPS

BIOLOGICAL CRYSTALLOGRAPHY NEWSGROUPS : 

Most users would be aware of the biological crystallography newsgroups -

     bionet.xtallography
     bionet.molbio.protein
     bionet.structural-nmr
     bionet.molec-model


The bionet newsgroups can also be accessed via
email for those who do not have convenient Usenet access.

Extracted From :-
       **** BIOSCI FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ) SHEET ****

New users of BIOSCI/bionet may want to read the "Frequently Asked
Questions" or "FAQ" sheet for BIOSCI.  The FAQ provides details on how
to participate in these forums and is available for anonymous FTP from
net.bio.net [134.172.2.69] in pub/BIOSCI/biosci.FAQ or for retrieval
by gopher to net.bio.net, port 70.  It may also be requested by
sending e-mail to biosci@net.bio.net (use plain English for your
request).  The FAQ is also posted on the first of each month to the
newsgroup BIONEWS/bionet.announce immediately following the posting of
the BIOSCI information sheet.

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Biological users of sci.xtallography who wish to maximise
the audience for an article might want to consider posting
to sci.xtallography "and" bionet.xtallography.  If this is
done within your newsreader properly, followon posts will
also appear in both newsgroups.

This (in theory) can also be done via email - by email to :-

sci.techniques.xtallography.usenet@decwrl.dec.com

and 

bionet.xtallography.usenet@decwrl.dec.com

Using the alias facility of your email program can make this
a very easy procedure.

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ANNOUNCING NEWSGROUP to EMAIL LINK for CRYSTALLOGRAPHY NEWSGROUP

                sci.techniques.xtallography
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

(Would people like to pass this on to colleagues who
may benefit from this announcement).

This is to announce that Email access has been created
for the general crystallography newsgroup -
sci.techniques.xtallography

This is thanks to Tim Buckner of the
Centre for Macromolecular Crystallography at
the University of Alabama (SYSTEM@ORION.CMC.UAB.EDU)
who has kindly setup this facility.

This link is presently only uni-directional but
participants can send articles to the newsgroup
via emailing/forwarding to a separate address as
explained below.

There may be a number of reasons you may like to use
this newsgroup to E-mail link.

  -- You don't have internet newsgroup access.
  -- Your existing news-server is rather unreliable.
  -- The news to your part of the world is a bit slow.

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SUBSCRIBING TO THE NEWSGROUP to MAIL GATEWAY (no cost)

To become a user of this facility, follow these
instructions (there is no cost involved).

================
  
TO JOIN TO THE NEWSGROUP TO EMAIL LIST :- 

To join the sci.techniques.xtallography list send a mail message
to :-

sci_tech_xtal-Request@xtal.cmc.uab.edu

with ONLY the following is the body text of the message :-

subscribe

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CONFIRMATION of SUBSCRIPTION

You will then receive an email reply stating that you
have successfully joined the newsgroup to mail gateway
list and also receive a list of other commands you can
use with the "mailing-list".

Remember to send any "listserv" commands to :-

sci_tech_xtal-Request@xtal.cmc.uab.edu

A summary of commands follows :-


 SIGNOFF             - to remove yourself from the list
 REVIEW              - to get a list of subscribers
 QUERY               - to get the status of your entry on the list
 SET NOMAIL          - to remain on the list but not receive mail
 SET MAIL            - to reverse the NOMAIL setting
 SET CONCEAL         - to conceal yourself from REVIEW listings
 SET NOCONCEAL       - to reverse the CONCEAL setting
 SET NOREPRO         - to prevent the list from sending you your own postings
 SET REPRO           - to reverse the NOREPRO setting 
 LIST                - to get a list of mailing lists available on this host
 HELP                - to receive a help file
 QUIT                - to terminate processing (skipping signature, etc.)

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POSTING OUT ARTICLES

Even though this service is presently unidirectional, it is
still possible to post out articles to the newsgroup.  This is
done my emailing (or forwarding followons) to :-

sci.techniques.xtallography.usenet@decwrl.dec.com 

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MAKING IT EASY TO SUBMIT ARTICLES AND MESSAGES

To make it easy to send articles and messages, try using the
"alias" facility of your email program:-

e.g.  alias        name            email address

       xtal    xtal newsgroup
                     sci.techniques.xtallography.usenet@decwrl.dec.com

Then when you want to send an article or query , just email it
to "xtal" and/or "bxtal" and  your email software should
handle the rest.

==============================================================

If your email program does not support an "alias" option :-
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

a)     Consider changing to a "better" email program such as
the public domain (i.e., free) "pine" software which is
available for UNIX, DOS and MS Windows.
This program is very user friendly and powerful.
To obtain binaries or source code, anonymous ftp to
ftp.cac.washington.edu:/pine (140.142.100.6:/pine).
 
Please email Lachlan Cranswick (lachlan@dmp.csiro.au) if you
have any difficulties/queries/comments or suggestions.
 
--
Lachlan Cranswick  -  CSIRO     _--_|\  lachlan@dmp.CSIRO.AU
Division of Mineral Products   /      \ tel +61 3 647 0367
339 Williamstown Rd,           \_.--._/ fax +61 3 646 3223
Port Melbourne, Australia, 3207      v


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TENTATIVE GUIDELINES FOR POSTING OUT CV'S AND RESUMES.
TENTATIVE GUIDELINES FOR COMMERCIAL ANNOUNCEMENTS.

(Under construction)


MAXIMIZE READERSHIP OF ARTICLES BY CROSS POSTING.

You might find that some dicussion topics 
or problems you are interested in
go beyond the scope of just crystallography,
and may also include other topics such as spectroscopy, 
microscopy, materials, chemistry, physics, engineering,
biology, etc.

In this case, consider crossposting your article to other
relevant newsgroups using your newsreader so 
that it has the best chance of reaching 
the widest interested audience.  (You have to be a bit careful
here not to excessively cross post as this can upset people.)

The other advantage of cross-posting is that any reply in
one newsgroup is posted to all the other newsgroups to
help continue the discussion.  Thus method can be used
effectively to have a convenient multidisciplinary scientific 
discussion.  Readers are welcome to correct the idea that
the chance to have a multidisciplinary discussion is pretty
rare, even at international conferences, let alone in the lab.
However, (in theory) the newsgroups are able to do this on
a routine basis.

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FAQ's  (frequently asked question files)

One thing users might like to keep in mind is the idea of FAQs 
(frequently asked question files).  After discussion on a particular 
topic, interested people might like to create an FAQ so that any 
conclusions or interesting information are stored and are posted 
regularly to limit the same discussion occurring every 6 months or so.

Examples of a crystallography FAQ might be :-

FAQ sci.techniques.xtallography - structure drawing software
FAQ sci.techniques.xtallography - molecular modelling software
FAQ - crystallography information services on the internet.
FAQ - how to find a colleague's email address on the internet.

Some of above topics have already been already discussed to some extent 
in newsgroups such as sci.chem and sci.materials and thus might be 
appropriate to create FAQs relatively soon.

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FUTURE DESIRABLE ACTIONS FOR THIS NEWSGROUP

Based on email received, desirable actions for the near future 
are :-

a) Expand awareness of this newsgroup amongst the crystallographic and 
scientific community by announcments on relevant paper journals and 
electronic information servers.

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POSTING TO THIS NEWSGROUP VIA EMAIL

It is possible to post to this newsgroup via email by emailing
articles to :-

sci.techniques.xtallography.usenet@decwrl.dec.com

         or     sci.techniques.xtallography@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
         or     sci.techniques.xtallography@cass.ma02.bull.com


Everything else, such as title, and message text should be
done as per a normal email message.

As mentioned previously, using the "alias" facility of your
email program can make posting via email a very easy procedure.

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READING THIS NEWSGROUP VIA GOPHER

It is also possible to read newsgroup articles by gopher server using
the following commands.  This can also be of benefit if a local
newserver has died.

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             HINT - Using Gopher Bookmarks

Use the bookmark option of your gopher to enable you to go
directly to the relevant menu item.  

In the UNIX generic gopher, goto the "xtallography" menu
option, type "a" and fill in the name.

To now revisit the xtallography area, all you have to do is
type "v" (view) and all you bookmarks will appear.  Pick
the xtallography bookmark you typed in previously.

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Following are gopher servers listed here that can handle
reading of newsgroups via gopher :-

CSIRO Gopher

gopher commsun.its.csiro.au
or
(gopher 152.83.8.2)

When a menu shows up, chose the following options :-

6.  Research Information (by Subject)/

9.  Crystallographic Information/

6.  Related USENET Newsgroups/

3.  sci.techniques.xtallography/

(Presently accessable from anywhere/anytime)

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AUTOMATIC ARCHIVE OF ARTICLES RETRIEVABLE BY GOPHER OR EMAIL
(Thanks to Tim Buckner of Centre for Macromolecular
Crystallography, University of Alabama at Birmingham).

Gopher to :-

xtal.cmc.uab.edu

Email to :-

Send a request to sci_tech_xtal_archive@xtal.cmc.uab.edu 
and the body should have something like

sendme 94oct

The help file follows...


SCI_TECH_XTAL_ARCHIVE information
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SCI_TECH_XTAL_ARCHIVE is a file distribution service that uses electronic mail
facilities to deliver files.  To communicate with SCI_TECH_XTAL_ARCHIVE, send
an E-mail message to:
                      sci_tech_xtal_archive@xtal.cmc.uab.edu

Commands are sent in the body of the message you send to SCI_TECH_XTAL_ARCHIVE.
Several commands may be sent at one time; just put one command per line.

SCI_TECH_XTAL_ARCHIVE Commands:

    SENDME package       Sends all parts of the specified package.
    SENDME package.n     Sends part 'n' of the specified package.

    LIST [pattern]       Gives brief description of all packages
                         matching "pattern".  If pattern is omitted,
                         a description of all packages is sent.

    ADDRESS <addr>       Specifies a valid address that is to be
                         used instead of the "From:" address for any
                         files sent.  Useful when addresses arrive
                         in an invalid format.  The output from any
                         commands specified after the ADDRESS line
                         is sent to that address.

    QUIT                 Ignore all remaining lines following QUIT.
                         Used to prevent interpretation of signatures.

    HELP                 Sends this file.

Commands may be abbreviated.  DIRECTORY is a synonym for LIST.

For each request you make, a transaction log is returned to you
indicating the status of the request.  The status report will indicate
whether the request was successfully completed, and when the file was or
will be sent.   Large files are sent only during off-peak hours.

This archive is for the mailing list sci_tech_xtal@xtal.cmc.uab.edu beginning
in February of 1994. It contains bulk files which are the messages for the
month appended into one file with the file name of the form

    yymmm

where yy is the year and mmm is the month. For example, to obtain all the
messages posted to sci_tech_xtal@xtal.cmc.uab.edu in April 1994, use the
command

    sendme 94apr

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Problems, questions, and comments about SCI_TECH_XTAL_ARCHIVE service on this
system should be directed to sci_tech_xtal_archive-mgr@xtal.cmc.uab.edu.



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NMR GOPHER

Subject: NMR Gopher
To: nmr-str@net.bio.net
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 18:29:16 -0600 (CST)
Content-Length: 2712      

Dear Structural NMR readers:

I recently came across a NMR Gopher at the National Magnetic Resonance
Facility in Madison, Wisconsin and would like to share this information
with you.

To access this site you should have a GOPHER client installed in your
system.  Those without a gopher client should follow instructions at the
end of this message:

Set your gopher client to the following address:

gopher.nmrfam.wisc.edu

and explore the various menus present there.

Here is a brief list of what is available there:

1. Whole bunch of programs including NMR data conversion routines
accessible via gopher or ftp.

2.  A list of forthcoming meetings in the Structural-NMR field

3.  Procedures for obtaining NMR time at this national facility

4.  Information on the BioMagResBank NMR Database (for further
information contact beverly@nmrfam.wisc.edu)


Users without access to this gopher can telnet to the root gopher at 
consultant.micro.umn.edu (login: gopher) and follow the menus until the
NMR gopher is found.  If anyone has difficulties, I will be happy to
help.

Users with XMOSAIC can also access this gopher.

Cheers
-raman
--  
C.S.Raman                           
UNIX Programming & Administration   
SPARC & SGI Systems                 raman@bioc01.uthscsa.edu - INTERNET
Department of Biochemistry          raman@mintaka.chpc.utexas.edu - CHPC
UTHSCSA                             c.raman@launchpad.unc.edu
7703 Floyd Curl Dr.                 (210) 567-6623   [Tel]
San Antonio, TX 78284-7760          (210) 567-6595   [Fax]
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LISTSERV Mailing Lists (email newsgroups) related to crystallography.

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O info server group.

Subject: Re: Help O
Date: 26 Oct 1993 15:48:44 GMT
Sender: smm@dlpx1 (S.M.McSweeney)

In stereo O uses two screens overlaid on each other it's only possible 
select objects in one of these. I only found this
out today via a O info server group you may wish to subscribe to. 
To do so send a email to 

o-info-request@kaktus.kemi.aau.dk

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and you'll be added to the subscribers

cheers
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RIETVELD USERS MAILING LIST (EMAIL NEWSGROUP)

This is to announce the creation of a Rietveld-users
mailing list for people who are involved with the
Rietveld method for structure refinement and/or
quantitative analysis.  Tim Buckner, who manages the
University of Alabama Crystallography Information Server
has kindly provided the facilities and setup this discussion
area.

Full information can be obtained by anonymous ftp to :-

sol.dmp.csiro.au:/pub/xtallography/rietveld-mailing-list

or emailing Lachlan Cranswick (lachlan@dmp.csiro.au).


HOW TO BECOME ONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS

To "subscribe"/join to the mail list (no cost is involved)
send email to :-

rietveld-Request@xtal.cmc.uab.edu

with the following message in the body text :-

subscribe 

----
You should then receive a confirmation reply via email
including the commands the listserver program recognizes.

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MAKING IT EASY TO SUBMIT ARTICLES AND MESSAGES

To make it easy to send articles and messages, try using the
"alias" facility of your email program:-

e.g.  alias        name            email address
     rietveld    Rietveld Users    rietveld@xtal.cmc.uab.edu

Then when you want to send an article or query , just email it
to "rietveld" and your email software should handle the rest.

==============================================================

If your email program does not support this "alias" option :-
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

a)     Consider changing to a "better" email program such as
the public domain (i.e., free) "pine" software which is 
available for UNIX, DOS and Mac.  This program is very
user friendly and powerful (to obtain binaries, anonymous ftp to 
ftp.cac.washington.edu:/pine (140.142.100.6:/pine).

(there are other programs around - e.g., Wintrumpet (MS-Windows), 
Eudora (Mac and MS-Windows), etc).

b)     Email the old fashioned way to "rietveld@xtal.cmc.uab.edu" 
to submit your message or article.

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-- 
Lachlan Cranswick  -  CSIRO     _--_|\  lachlan@dmp.CSIRO.AU
Division of Mineral Products   /      \ tel +61 3 647 0367
339 Williamstown Rd,           \_.--._/ fax +61 3 646 3223
Port Melbourne, Australia, 3207      v