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Ivan Teo Cheng Tien wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> There should be consensus on which Computer shop in Singapore that should be SHUN
> UPON!!
> 
> If large firms like Aris can do such an act, smaller computer shops such as
> "AJVW" at FUNAN CENTRE and "HARVARD" at SIM LIM SQUARE are equally underhanding.
> 
> I appeal to all the consumers who have been short-handed to compile a list of all
> computer shops in Singapore.
> 
> Ivan
> ivanteo@singnet.com.sgIvan,

There is an even simpler solution.  Stick with known brands.  If you go 
for cheap alternatives, you get what you deserve.  There is no such 
thing as a free lunch.  Besides think of the pain and opportunity costs 
that have to be endured by taking the cheaper alternative.  Stick with 
Compaq, Dell etc. and save the trouble in the long run.

Regards,

Kulendran
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On Fri, 02 Aug 1996 21:20:09 +1100, Kulendran Anaimugan
<kool@magna.com.au> wrote:

>Ivan Teo Cheng Tien wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> There should be consensus on which Computer shop in Singapore that
should be SHUN
>> UPON!!
>> 
>> If large firms like Aris can do such an act, smaller computer shops
such as
>> "AJVW" at FUNAN CENTRE and "HARVARD" at SIM LIM SQUARE are equally
underhanding.
>> 
>> I appeal to all the consumers who have been short-handed to compile
a list of all
>> computer shops in Singapore.
>> 
>> Ivan
>> ivanteo@singnet.com.sgIvan,
>
>There is an even simpler solution.  Stick with known brands.  If you
go 
>for cheap alternatives, you get what you deserve.  There is no such 
>thing as a free lunch.  Besides think of the pain and opportunity
costs 
>that have to be endured by taking the cheaper alternative.  Stick
with 
>Compaq, Dell etc. and save the trouble in the long run.
>
>Regards,
>
>Kulendran
And how many times have you or anyone else had nothing but trouble
with Compaq or Dell products. Or found out they used proprietary parts
so that WHEN a part fails, you can only get the part from them, at
MUCH HIGHER PRICES. Ex. Dell is starting to use SDRAM. Proprietary. SO
what happens if that part fails one day after the warranty runs out?
You pay a HUGE price to Dell for a replacement.

The majors produce so many components that they cannot maintain
quality control.

I have used many OEM parts and the ONLY one I ever had trouble with
were Holtek controller cards.

Currently I am running a Pentium board made by Singh, a no name 16 bit
sound card with wavetable daughterboard, and NEC on third party board
SIMMS. My modem is a 28.8 Voice/data/fax made by Newcom and my 8x CD
ROM is made by Vertos. My Video is a 2MB PCI Cirrus Logic. And the
real name brand in my system is my Intel Pentium CPU.

The motherboard has seen 3 different CPU's (upgrades, not failures)
and can accomodate up to a 200 Mhz Pentium. Cost? USD $109.00. Price
of my modem? $87.00. CD ROM? $92.00. Video was $55.00.

So going with the name brands, I would have paid over double what I
paid, and if the part fails, off to the service site for 3-4 weeks.If
the above parts listed fail, my system is down for 1 DAY, since I just
return it to the vendor.

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In <3201D659.3137@magna.com.au> Kulendran Anaimugan <kool@magna.com.au>
writes: 
>
>There is an even simpler solution.  Stick with known brands.  If you
>go for cheap alternatives, you get what you deserve.  There is no
>such thing as a free lunch.  Besides think of the pain and 
>opportunity costs that have to be endured by taking the cheaper 
>alternative.  Stick with Compaq, Dell etc. and save the trouble in
>the long run.

Right, and pay $200 for a new power supply when your proprietary one
goes out ($40 for UL approved industry standard) or up to $1000 for a
new mother board worth $100, and forget about upgrading.  Hope you like
to negotiate on the phone and send stuff back and forth by UPS when
something goes wrong.

The important thing is to find a local builder with a good reputation
for supporting business.  The product will be higher quality, and it
can be repaired and upgraded economically.  In the U.S., the largest
"brand name" share through the dealer channel has about 9% (Acer). 
"House brand" machines have a 38% share - for very good reason - they
are better for the client, and better for the dealer.   

I have been installing systems for small businesses for about 12 years
now, and I can't even remember the last time a client asked for a
"brand name" machine.

Andrew Grygus  -  California Republic
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