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Article #3966Re: Green Party: Socialists with Funny Hats (Not!)
From: Jym Dyer
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:00
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:00
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> Actually, James, you might be surprised what the Greens
> believe in.
=o= There's nothing to be surprised about, since Greens have
always been open about their positions on the issues. At any
rate, James said that he already did read the Green platform,
so your statement doesn't make a shred of sense. There are a
variety of local Green platforms at this web site:
http://www.greens.org/plats.html
The claims of socialism are, to put a fine point on it, idiotic.
The evidence is on that web page. In particular, the emphasis
on grassroots democracy, decentralization, and community-based
economics are diametrically opposite from what most people
consider socialism.
> Environmental protection is hardly their top priority, Ralph
> Nader's speech mentions it nearly last in a list of 20+ goals
> for the organization.
=o= It's true that the Green movement isn't entirely about
environmental protection. The worldwide Green movement is
built upon four pillars:
Ecological Wisdom
Social Responsibility
Direct Democracy
Nonviolence
It's pretty typical for Americans to try to try to make things
bigger :-), so most Green Parties in the United States have
signed on to an expanded version of that list, known as the
"Ten Key Values:"
Ecological Wisdom
Social Justice
Grassroots Democracy
Nonviolence
Decentralization
Community-based Economics
Feminism
Respect for Diversity
Personal and Global Responsibility
Future Focus
If you look closely, though, you'll see that all of these values
can be derived from the 4 pillars and the (4 - 1)! permutations
between them.
<_Jym_>
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