🚀 go-pugleaf

It was not for or from TFN.

As least not by the looks of it...
-- 
Nathan D Richards
Toronto, Canada.
WWW: http://www.sunspot.org/webmaster.html
IRC: nathanr21!nathanr@sunspot.org on EFnet (irc.passport.ca or irc.rift.com)

It's amazing that the great Mad Falcon has not already won the KoTM award, so
consider this an official nomination.

Somebody pease second this nomination.

Anyway...

Nabil is the ultimate manifestation of the "Classic Kook."

Perhaps the best kook to come along in years.


On Sun, 1 Feb 1998 00:54:41 GMT, ad613@torfree.net (Nabil Mohamed El-Khodari)
wrote:

+  I have never been afraid of death.  I am willing to die for what I 
+  believe in.  Your approach may have succeeded with Gard Abarahmsen, may 
+  be because he is more keen on life. It will never succeed on me.

Nabil is *SO* dedicated to his cause that he is quite willing to die for his
beliefs. Nabil seems to be imply that Gard's life was in danger which is why
he resigned from the Toronto Free-Net.

Interesting... 

Who would have though operating a free-net was so cloak and dagger?

+  Such desperate attempt makes me sure that my investigations has results 
+  and that high authorities are now investigationg what is going on.

This is nice. These so-called "death threats" makes the Nabster *SURE* that
his "investigations" are achieving results.

One must understand that by "investigations" the Mad Falcon really means
"hallucinations"... and even still this is hilarious.

First off, the so-called death threat was issued as part of on going flame war
between Nabil, an ex-roomate of his and the ex-roommate's friend, the war
heated up recently with Nabil holding his ex-roommate's mail hostage (most
notably a GST tax return check) which resulted in the ex-roommate's friend
issuing the obviously forged "death threat," basically it's an issue from
Nabil's own personal life.

His "investigations," as he calls them, are his incessant, endless,
incomprehensible, mind-bogling, delusional rants that he posts dozens at a
time to two local newsgroups; tor.general and torfree.general.

While nobody is quite sure what the allegations are that Nabil is
"investigating" he rants on and on about how evil the local Free-Net is and
how it's volunteer managers are sinister schemers bent on preventing Nabil
from saving the TFN and the world.

Nabil, of course firmly believes that the world would be a much better place
if the "Higher Authorities" would only listen to him and take his
"investigations' seriously. This "death threat" is his key.

+  I  shall never quit.  

Nabil imagines himself to be a crusader, a brave soldier, and as he often
describes himself a "visionary"

He shall never quite jousting at windmills, because if he did he would have to
stare into the futile emptiness that is his life.
  
In summary, Nabil has long struggled to get his "visionary" message across,
but is perpetually thwarted by a 

The alt.usenet.kooks FAQ describes a kook as "Anyone who posts uniquely
strange, preferably incomprehensible articles, or who manifests a persistent,
extreme, and somewhat bizarre obsession"

I think all will agree Nabil matches this description to such a amazing degree
that one might think is was writen about *HIM* specifically.

More information can be found at Marc Bissonette's "Nabil Paranoia Archive" at
http://www.internalysis.com/kooks/nabster/ 

Thank you and please vote Nabil Mohamed El-Khodari KoTM!

Cheers,

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On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Dmytri Kleiner wrote:

> It's amazing that the great Mad Falcon has not already won the KoTM award, so
> consider this an official nomination.
> 
> Somebody pease second this nomination.

I wholeheartedly second the nomination posted by Dmytri Kleiner.

> Anyway...
> 
> Nabil is the ultimate manifestation of the "Classic Kook."
> 
> Perhaps the best kook to come along in years.

Agreed.

> Who would have though operating a free-net was so cloak and dagger?

Who knew? :D

<snip>

> His "investigations," as he calls them, are his incessant, endless,
> incomprehensible, mind-bogling, delusional rants that he posts dozens at a
> time to two local newsgroups; tor.general and torfree.general.

And let's not forget torfree.policy, might as well add torfree.*

> I think all will agree Nabil matches this description to such a amazing degree
> that one might think is was writen about *HIM* specifically.

One wonders, Dmytri.......

Nathan D Richards

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dmytrik@echo-on.net (Dmytri Kleiner) writes:

>It's amazing that the great Mad Falcon has not already won the KoTM award, so
>consider this an official nomination.

>Somebody pease second this nomination.

>Anyway...

>Nabil is the ultimate manifestation of the "Classic Kook."

>Perhaps the best kook to come along in years.

The nomination has been counted by me, the Official Kook Of The Month Vote
Wrangler.
-- 
bathroom@iglou.com   http://members.iglou.com/bathroom   Tantrum 95.7 FM
Read THE LAST WORD before the Kenton County Public LIEbrary censors it!
Annoy a conservative -- THINK!
*** Gatewood Galbraith for Governor 1999 ***

Dmytri Kleiner (dmytrik@echo-on.net) wrote:

: It's amazing that the great Mad Falcon has not already won the KoTM award, so
: consider this an official nomination.

Do you think we could submit him for the "Darwin Awards" for next year? :)


: First off, the so-called death threat was issued as part of on going flame war
: between Nabil, an ex-roomate of his and the ex-roommate's friend, the war
: heated up recently with Nabil holding his ex-roommate's mail hostage (most
: notably a GST tax return check) which resulted in the ex-roommate's friend
: issuing the obviously forged "death threat," basically it's an issue from
: Nabil's own personal life.

Now, does he still have that cheque?  IF he does, he obviously wants his 
ass thrown in jail, as it is quite a nice federal offence...you know, 
maybe this is just his way of making a cry for help...being a kook isn't 
all sugarcanes and loolipops underneath a pink marshmallow 
sky...Mmmmmm...marshmallows :P  But, I digress...:) Now here's 
question...which issue was it?  I mean, out of the hundreds of millions 
of things wrong, which one was it?

: His "investigations," as he calls them, are his incessant, endless,
: incomprehensible, mind-bogling, delusional rants that he posts dozens at a
: time to two local newsgroups; tor.general and torfree.general.

Like the I-Comm bit :)  HA!  Withholding others mail and persuading 
people to use unregistered copies of software...Damn!  The list just 
grows :)

: While nobody is quite sure what the allegations are that Nabil is
: "investigating" he rants on and on about how evil the local Free-Net is and
: how it's volunteer managers are sinister schemers bent on preventing Nabil
: from saving the TFN and the world.

He rants and raves about this place, but is still here...glutton for 
punishment...oh well...whatever floats your boat...TFN is EVILLLLLLL }:P

: Nabil, of course firmly believes that the world would be a much better place
: if the "Higher Authorities" would only listen to him and take his
: "investigations' seriously. This "death threat" is his key.

Has about as much a chance as the I-Comm bit...

: +  I  shall never quit.  

: Nabil imagines himself to be a crusader, a brave soldier, and as he often
: describes himself a "visionary"

More like "delusionary"...

: He shall never quite jousting at windmills, because if he did he would have to
: stare into the futile emptiness that is his life.

Awwwwww...too bad.../me whips out the smallest fiddle in the world and 
begins to play a sad, sad song...

: The alt.usenet.kooks FAQ describes a kook as "Anyone who posts uniquely
: strange, preferably incomprehensible articles, or who manifests a persistent,
: extreme, and somewhat bizarre obsession"

Square peg in a square hole...how about that!

: I think all will agree Nabil matches this description to such a amazing degree
: that one might think is was writen about *HIM* specifically.

Could be...

: More information can be found at Marc Bissonette's "Nabil Paranoia Archive" at
: http://www.internalysis.com/kooks/nabster/ 

Please visit this site...if you need a laugh, then definitely go!  If you 
just think that all this is just a sick little vendetta, this will set 
you straight...

: Thank you and please vote Nabil Mohamed El-Khodari KoTM!

No, thank you for providing us this wonderful opportunity!

: Cheers,

Cheers Mates,

Matt Baillie
Resident Lurker, 
torfree.general :)
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On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Matthew Baillie wrote:

> Do you think we could submit him for the "Darwin Awards" for next year? :)

Hopefully yes.

> Now, does he still have that cheque?  IF he does, he obviously wants his 

He most probably does!

> question...which issue was it?  I mean, out of the hundreds of millions 
> of things wrong, which one was it?

I lost count after one hundred.

> Like the I-Comm bit :)  HA!  Withholding others mail and persuading 
> people to use unregistered copies of software...Damn!  The list just 
> grows :)

I'd like to see the next thing he does..just for a laugh.

> He rants and raves about this place, but is still here...glutton for 
> punishment...oh well...whatever floats your boat...TFN is EVILLLLLLL }:P

hehehehehehe
*Nathan laffs out loud*

> More like "delusionary"...

Oh yes, that too.

> Square peg in a square hole...how about that!

Well I always knew he was square :)

Nathan.
Reply-To: bm782 at torfree.net

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On Wed, 4 Feb 1998 17:01:18 GMT, Matthew Baillie (cm096@torfree.net) wrote:
: Dmytri Kleiner (dmytrik@echo-on.net) wrote:

: : It's amazing that the great Mad Falcon has not already won the KoTM award, so
: : consider this an official nomination.

: Do you think we could submit him for the "Darwin Awards" for next year? :)

Wishful thinking!  ; (
-- 
	Chris F.A. Johnson                bq933@torfree.net
	***  Executive Director, Toronto Free-Net Inc.  ***
	-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
	http://www.interlog.com/~cfaj     cfaj@interlog.com

Only a couple flows Dyma worth responding to;

- The threat was not about Nathan, it was about the TFN.

- The explanation about the tax check is hardly palatable. Nathan can 
have a new check issued to him easily, the older one being cancelled as 
it was 'return(ed) to sender. Moved. No forwarding address'.

I asked Nathan in the newsgroups to provide a forwarding address, but 
like all criminal elements, he refuses to make that known. 

Nathan recently hinted about a T-FCN 'adoption'. If you are the 'friend' 
- and we both know that you posted that fake post in my name during the 
1996 elections - then Nathan gets what he deserves.

Birds of feather....

Thank you for a plausible explanation though that may interest the 
investigating officer. Hope you do not mind being contacted in this 
reagrd ;-)
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---------------------------O00Oo-   -o000O----------------------------
Nabil M. El-Khodari              \ / "Men use thought to justify their 
IP, TFN                           V  injustices, and speech to conceal 
                                  |  their thoughts"        -Voltaire-

In article <EnvKxt.KL0.0.bloor@torfree.net>, bm782@torfree.net is reputed to 
have said...
>
>Chris F.A. Johnson (bq933@torfree.net) wrote:
>
>: : : It's amazing that the great Mad Falcon has not already won the KoTM 
award, so
>: : : consider this an official nomination.
>
>: : Do you think we could submit him for the "Darwin Awards" for next year? :)
>
>: Wishful thinking!  ; (
>
>We can do it Chris!

Unfortunately, I believe the recipient of the Darwin awards has to be deceased 
in order to receive it :)

-- 
-Marc Bissonnette
Internalysis
Corporate Competitive Intelligence, Research and Results

On 5 Feb 1998 22:29:01 GMT, Marc Bissonnette (focus@internalysis.com) wrote:

: >Chris F.A. Johnson (bq933@torfree.net) wrote:
: >: Wishful thinking!  ; (

: Unfortunately, I believe the recipient of the Darwin awards has to be deceased 
: in order to receive it :)

As I said ....
-- 
	Chris F.A. Johnson                bq933@torfree.net
	***  Executive Director, Toronto Free-Net Inc.  ***
	-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
	http://www.interlog.com/~cfaj     cfaj@interlog.com

On 5 Feb 1998 20:12:45 GMT, Robbie Honerkamp <kotm@shorty.com> wrote:

+  In alt.usenet.kooks Dmytri Kleiner <dmytrik@echo-on.net> wrote:
+  
+  : It's amazing that the great Mad Falcon has not already won the KoTM award, so
+  : consider this an official nomination.
+  
+  : Somebody pease second this nomination.
+  
+  I've added him to the February ballot.

Thanks Robbie!

Even though the toronto newsgroups have produced more kooks per square inch
than any where in the usenet multiverse, I think you'll find some of our
newsgroup denizens to be a little uninformed as to finer workings of the KoTM
awards.

Please post instructions for Voting so that Nabil can finally win something,
something he richly deserves: the Kook of the Month award.

Nabil for KoTM! When you think "Kook" think "Nabil!" Vote Nabil El-Khodari!

The Mad Falcon isn't afraid to die for what he believes and can do a great Mr.
T. impersonation, sucker.

ad613@torfree.net (Nabil "Mr. T" El-Khodari) wrote:

+  The message:
+  
+  From: Death It's Self <DeathrowWeb@deathrow.nabil.com>
+  Subject: Hello Dick Head
+  Date: Saturday, January 31, 1998 2:04 PM
+  
+  
+  
+   So Nabil, 
+  
+   Wondering who this might be? It's Death  
+  
+   I suggest that you lay off people of Toronto Freenet or it may cause
+  you problems
+  
+  
+  --------------------------
+  
+  Now here is what the headers reveal:
+  
+  --------------------------
+  
+  Received: from colosseum.colosseum.com (mail.colosseum.com 
+  [207.136.75.200]) by HME1.smtp.sprint.ca (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id 
+  OAA08247 for <fits@sprint.ca>; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 14:03:32 -0500 (EST)
+  X-ROUTED: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 14:01:06 -0500
+  Received: from the-lair [209.50.92.95] by colosseum.colosseum.com with smtp
+  	id AOAABGGB ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 14:00:24 -0500
+  From: "Death It's Self" <DeathrowWeb@deathrow.nabil.com>
+  To: <fits@sprint.ca>
+  Subject: Hello Dick Head
+  Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 14:06:29 -0500
+  X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
+  X-Priority: 3
+  X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155
+  MIME-Version: 1.0
+  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
+  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
+  message-id: TCPSMTP_GEN.14542.718@209.50.92.95
+  X-UIDL: 1c491d1310bd395465da8dbdc42b1c88
+  
+  --------------------------
+  
+  My answer:
+  
+  I do take threats seriously, that is why both colosseum.com and the 
+  police are involved in this. At least we shall get the telephone number 
+  used to register what appears to be a trial account on colosseum.com. The 
+  registration system asks for a phone number to verify the user....
+  
+  I have never been afraid of death.  I am willing to die for what I 
+  believe in.  Your approach may have succeeded with Gard Abarahmsen, may 
+  be because he is more keen on life. It will never succeed on me.
+  
+  Such desperate attempt makes me sure that my investigations has results 
+  and that high authorities are now investigationg what is going on.  I 
+  shall never quit.  
+  
+  May be it is time for this group to quit while they may be still 
+  undisturbed by authorities.
+  
+  Now the sucker who sent this message should know that he will be charged 
+  with a felony. Threat of an assault is assault. Death threats are taken 
+  very seriously in this country. See you in court, sucker.

Dmytri Kleiner (dmytrik@echo-on.net) wrote:

: Nabil is communicating with me, oh-boysie-woysie isn't this exiting.

I have always been trying to communicate ;-) but even my earliest trials 
were turned down impolitely by you. Just to help your fading memory 
(change that stuff man, alcohol is O.K., but ..... No), I was the one who 
came and attended one of T-FCN meetings and suggested we work together in 
the acme of the pre-election 'games'. I was also the one who called for a 
meeting to save the TFN which aimed at 'getting together' of the 
different groups rather than fighting. Your group is the one that 
bycotted this meeting and insisted on a separate meeting after the first 
one was held. Since then there have been so many things, including 
attending and actively sharing in the TFN Fund raiser arranged by you. 

All the time, I was trying to communicate, all the time also you was 
playing a cloak and dagger game. Well, at least I hope you enjoy it, 
because it makes no sense if no body does enjoy the game.

Spreading misinformation may fool those who do not know the facts or have 
not been involved deeply with the TFN. 

: On Wed, 4 Feb 1998 21:18:45 GMT, ad613@torfree.net (Nabil Mohamed El-Khodari)
: wrote:

: +  Only a couple flows Dyma worth responding to;
: +  
: +  - The threat was not about Nathan, it was about the TFN.

: Your problem with Nathan and Jordan is PERSONAL, the so-called "threat" has
: nothing to do with TFN, except that Jordan said "stay away from TFN."

With Nathan, may be yes (though he insists on making it public). WIth 
Jordan??? Excuse me. What relation do I have with Jordan to make it 
personal? My only contact with Jordan started when he posted something 
very desperate regarding the work in the TFN office and Jeof's treatement 
to him, to which I responded by a private e-mail, which he made public to 
get even with Geof. I then attacked him in public for publishing 
something that may endanger the TFN just to settle a personal score. He 
cntacted me later alleging having difficulties with the registration 
system and asking for my help. I responded that I need approval from 
Chris. He e-mailed me that it was O.K. and that Chris Johnson approves. I 
went - immediately I may add - to Ryerson. I checked with security - I am 
no fool - that called Chris, who come down and said sorry they did not 
need any help. My guess is that it was also an orchestrated game.

So, what is personal about that? May be Sasha or even Nathan (who is a 
latent you know-what, but he does not realize that yet) can have 'personal' 
relations with Jordan, but not me ;-)

Now your last line is very interesting, so it was Jordan who sent the 
e-mail. I suspeted that. Now it is time for the investigating officer to 
know. 

Thank you for your help ;-)
-- 
---------------------------O00Oo-   -o000O----------------------------
Nabil M. El-Khodari              \ / "Men use thought to justify their 
IP, TFN                           V  injustices, and speech to conceal 
                                  |  their thoughts"        -Voltaire-

Who, me? (enkil@zetnet.co.uk) wrote:
: On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Dmytri Kleiner wrote:

<snip>

: > Your problem with Nathan and Jordan is PERSONAL, the so-called "threat" has
: > nothing to do with TFN, except that Jordan said "stay away from TFN."

: True.

So, Jordan does not know what is the meaning of the e-mail he sent? 
(duely posted under a different thread), or Nathan all of a sudden is 
'the TFN people'. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe, hahahahahahahaahahah, 
hohohohohohohohoho 

<almost fainted with laughter>

: > But you did not allow him to come pick it up, thereby holding his mail

Read my responses to Nathan concerning this matter carefully before 
giving a 'legal' ;-) opinion. Nathan had the following options;

- Requesting Mail and Post to forward his mail, which he did not.
- Informing the agencies and friends of change of address, which he didn't.
- Providing a forwarding mail address that I would have typed on his mail 
for the Mail and Post to forward to him (wouldn't work of course with 
Federal and Provincial mail that cannot be forwarded).

He did not do any of the above, and guess what? I am the one to be blamed 
for it ;-)

: Nabby knows I'd MUCH rather go pick it up (not at his house though!!!!!
: Preferably a neutral location) than give him my address.  Who knows what
: he could do with my address.  Not that I care, of course.

Too late Nathan. Marked 'Moved. No forwarding address. return to sender'. 
I had to order a special stamp for that (added to your bill, if you ever 
has the character to settle it).

: > 1. Yes, Nathan has volunteered for a TFCN assignment as has met with me
: > regarding the on site co-ordinator position at the 519. Add that info to your
: > loony-bin conspiracy theories if you like.

Well done. As I told you in the previous post he is a .... Now he will 
have the chance to further his career (or lack thereof) under your, Jordan 
and Sasha's guidance ;-)

: He will, don't you worry about that...

: > 3. I think you're right, Nathan will get what he deserves. And that is a
: > mutualy-benificial relationship with a local community center that will help
: > him with the many challenges faced by youth today.

Yes. Like getting out of the closet. Heheheheheheheh, hahahahaha, 
hohohohohoho

<for the second time almost fainted from laughter. What a nice way of 
killing me ;->

: This is extremely true and thank you for pointing that out.

Yes, show signs of respect to your new mentor. Cannot wait till the time 
you will break down with them, then we shall hear all the noises. Dima, 
listen to me, this man is meaner than a snake. He will bite you at the 
end. He did that to his best friend (who actually Nathan also threatened 
to take him to the police and actually filed a complaint, but seemingly 
nothing came out of it. That friend has published something in the 
newsgroup that Nathan has confided to him of having a pedophile relation; 
wait a minute, may you will love Nathan more for that ;-). What he has 
done to me is public knoweldge. However, he does not have any thing on me 
to go to the police. In fact, it is the other way around, but what is the 
use? I am just glad that I do not have to see him. This in itself made my 
life more bright.

Nathan is a very disturbed person and unless his new 'position' - I 
believe that to be on his knees - with the 519 helps his 'identity 
crisis', be aware. You are next. Psychological troubles are genetic. Ask 
Nathan about his father ;-)

: > VOTE NABIL EL-KHODARI KoTM! NABIL'S IS THE ULTIMATE KOOK! THE KOOK'S KOOK! THE
: > UBERKOOK! ALL OTHER KOOK'S PALE BY COMPARISON! VOTE NABIL EL-KHODARI KoTM!!

: *LOLOLOLOLOLOL*

: > If the officer should need me to confirm that you are in fact a kook, I'm sure
: > they'll contact me. But as I've said -- they deal with Kooks like you on a
: > regular basic. I'm sure they've laughed their ass off about the Mad Falcon and
: > his "investigations" over a donut many a time now!

: According to my sources, they have started a project called the K-Files to
: deal with the Mad Falcon. ;-)

-- 
---------------------------O00Oo-   -o000O----------------------------
Nabil M. El-Khodari              \ / "Men use thought to justify their 
IP, TFN                           V  injustices, and speech to conceal 
                                  |  their thoughts"        -Voltaire-

Dmytri Kleiner wrote:
> 
> The Mad Falcon isn't afraid to die for what he believes and can do a great Mr.
> T. impersonation, sucker.

Mad Falcon ate my balls!

meow
chris

> ad613@torfree.net (Nabil "Mr. T" El-Khodari) wrote:
> 
> +  The message:
> +
> +  From: Death It's Self <DeathrowWeb@deathrow.nabil.com>
> +  Subject: Hello Dick Head
> +  Date: Saturday, January 31, 1998 2:04 PM
> +
> +
> +
> +   So Nabil,
> +
> +   Wondering who this might be? It's Death
> +
> +   I suggest that you lay off people of Toronto Freenet or it may cause
> +  you problems
> +
> +
> +  --------------------------
> +
> +  Now here is what the headers reveal:
> +
> +  --------------------------
> +
> +  Received: from colosseum.colosseum.com (mail.colosseum.com
> +  [207.136.75.200]) by HME1.smtp.sprint.ca (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id
> +  OAA08247 for <fits@sprint.ca>; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 14:03:32 -0500 (EST)
> +  X-ROUTED: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 14:01:06 -0500
> +  Received: from the-lair [209.50.92.95] by colosseum.colosseum.com with smtp
> +       id AOAABGGB ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 14:00:24 -0500
> +  From: "Death It's Self" <DeathrowWeb@deathrow.nabil.com>
> +  To: <fits@sprint.ca>
> +  Subject: Hello Dick Head
> +  Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 14:06:29 -0500
> +  X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> +  X-Priority: 3
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> +
> +  My answer:
> +
> +  I do take threats seriously, that is why both colosseum.com and the
> +  police are involved in this. At least we shall get the telephone number
> +  used to register what appears to be a trial account on colosseum.com. The
> +  registration system asks for a phone number to verify the user....
> +
> +  I have never been afraid of death.  I am willing to die for what I
> +  believe in.  Your approach may have succeeded with Gard Abarahmsen, may
> +  be because he is more keen on life. It will never succeed on me.
> +
> +  Such desperate attempt makes me sure that my investigations has results
> +  and that high authorities are now investigationg what is going on.  I
> +  shall never quit.
> +
> +  May be it is time for this group to quit while they may be still
> +  undisturbed by authorities.
> +
> +  Now the sucker who sent this message should know that he will be charged
> +  with a felony. Threat of an assault is assault. Death threats are taken
> +  very seriously in this country. See you in court, sucker.

On Fri, 6 Feb 1998 21:07:17 GMT, ad613@torfree.net (Nabil Mohamed El-Khodari)
wrote:

+  Dmytri Kleiner (dmytrik@echo-on.net) wrote:
+  
+  : Nabil is communicating with me, oh-boysie-woysie isn't this exiting.
+  
+  I have always been trying to communicate ;-) but even my earliest trials 
+  were turned down impolitely by you. 

If this wasn't that nutty Mad Falcon talking, I would say that this statement
was an outright lie, but given than this is the delirious Nabsie talking, any
observer realizes that he's just insane enough to believe his own delusions.

I've never been impolite to Nabil, in fact I've tried on many occasions to
create opportunities for Nabil to reconcile with those he's attacked.

But the results, as we all well know, are always the same, Nabil blusters and
attacks, casts aspersions, accusations, and insults generously towards all who
do not bow down to his frequently self-proclaimed "visionary" stature.

Nabil is convinced, totally **CONVINCED**, that ANYONE who corrects him on
even the smallest of his many factual errors is part of a mysterious "wolf
pack" that is out to "steal" the Toronto Free-Net and prevent the Great Nabil
from saving it.

+  Just to help your fading memory  (change that stuff man, alcohol is
+  O.K., but ..... No), I was the one who  came and attended one of
+  T-FCN meetings and suggested we work together in the acme of the
+  pre-election 'games'.

Yes, and we welcomed you and were very polite to you. YET -- It only took you
days to find an new excuse to launch your next series of attacks,

+  I was also the one who called for a meeting to save the TFN which
+  aimed at 'getting together' of the different groups rather than fighting.

Nabil, you numb skull, **ALL THE GROUPS ARE TOGETHER**, nobody *IS* fighting,
except *YOU* you idiot. You are the primary source of hostility and negativity
with the TFN community. The rest of us have *FOUND WAYS* to get along and work
together when it counts. You only find ways to offend and alienate all you
come in contact with.

+  Your group is the one that  bycotted this meeting and insisted on a
+  separate meeting after the first one was held.

More lies Nabil, you organized a totally stupid meeting in a totally stupid
location *AT THE SAME TIME* that I organized the meeting at the Dotcom Cafe.

We hardly boycotted anything, when I posted my announcement for my meeting I
had no idea about your hair brained scheme to organize a meeting *NO WHERE
NEAR ANY FORM OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION* and would *NEVER HAVE AGREED TO OR
SUPPORTED SUCH A VENUE*

We organized the meeting at the same time, mine was far better planned, you
only went ahead with yours out of your characteristic idiotic stubbornness,
*YOU* should have canceled your meeting when a *BETTER PLAN* became apparent.

At least you should have consulted with me if you expected me to attend, I
would have told you that far north east scarborough, far away from the subway,
was not a good place for a meeting.

*NOBODY* complained about coming down to the Dotcom, *EVERYBODY* I talked to
complained about going to your stupid meeting.

Once again Nabil, my meeting was not the "second" "other" or even
"alternative" meeting, we simply both organized meetings at the same time.

+  Since then there have been so many things, including 
+  attending and actively sharing in the TFN Fund raiser arranged by you. 

Yes, you watched the coat check for a couple of hours, I thank you again.
  
+  All the time, I was trying to communicate, all the time also you was 
+  playing a cloak and dagger game.

Here is the core of your delusions, nobody is playing and kind of games, it's
all in your head, everybody is just trying to deal with the entirely
unglamorous details of saving a financially beleaguered Free-Net.

Only in your worm eaten brain could this be escalated into some weird episode
of Inspector Gadget.

Regardless of how much you really really want to be Inspector Gadget, there
are no secret organizations or sinister arch villains. I don't even own a cat.

+  Well, at least I hope you enjoy it, 
+  because it makes no sense if no body does enjoy the game.

Nabil, it makes no sense.

Period. There is no "it" outside of your deluded skull.
 
+  Spreading misinformation may fool those who do not know the facts or have 
+  not been involved deeply with the TFN. 

These kinds of statements reveal the full spectrum of Nabil's madness.

Nabil wake up, *EVERYBODY* even *REMOTELY* associated with the TFN, let alone
anyone who is "deeply involved" would give testimony to the fact that you are
a complete loony-toon.

You are the one making ridiculously inept attempts at misinformation.
  
[...]

+  So, what is personal about that? May be Sasha or even Nathan (who is a 
+  latent you know-what, but he does not realize that yet) can have 'personal' 
+  relations with Jordan, but not me ;-)

You act as if Sasha or Nathan should be embarrassed about being gay, you sound
like a bigot. You really are a creep.
  
+  Now your last line is very interesting, so it was Jordan who sent the 
+  e-mail. I suspeted that. Now it is time for the investigating officer to 
+  know. 

If you look at the path, it seems to indicate that it was Jordan, it could
have been a spoof though, but unless Jordan denies it I have no reason to
believe that somebody forged the "the-lair" into the message header.
  

On Fri, 6 Feb 1998 21:33:25 GMT, ad613@torfree.net (Nabil Mohamed El-Khodari)
wrote:

[...]

+  Well done. As I told you in the previous post he is a .... Now he will 
+  have the chance to further his career (or lack thereof) under your, Jordan 
+  and Sasha's guidance ;-)

[...]

+  Yes. Like getting out of the closet.

[...]

More anti-homesexual inuendo and bigotry. 

+  listen to me, this man is meaner than a snake. He will bite you at the 
+  end. He did that to his best friend (who actually Nathan also threatened 
+  to take him to the police and actually filed a complaint, but seemingly 
+  nothing came out of it. That friend has published something in the 
+  newsgroup that Nathan has confided to him of having a pedophile relation; 
+  wait a minute, may you will love Nathan more for that ;-). What he has 
+  done to me is public knoweldge. However, he does not have any thing on me 
+  to go to the police. In fact, it is the other way around, but what is the 
+  use? I am just glad that I do not have to see him. This in itself made my 
+  life more bright.
+  
+  Nathan is a very disturbed person and unless his new 'position' - I 
+  believe that to be on his knees - with the 519 helps his 'identity 
+  crisis', be aware. You are next. Psychological troubles are genetic. Ask 
+  Nathan about his father ;-)

Your obvious hatred towards and obsessive desire to cause trouble for a young
man like Nathan who needs help far more than he needs more problems is
amazingly vile.

Any sane person would be embarrassed about posting such garbage publicly.

Your stench is getting worse and worse Nabil.

[...]

+  Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe, hahahahahahahaahahah, 
+  hohohohohohohohoho 
+  Heheheheheheheh, hahahahaha, hohohohohoho

[...]

The fact that you find your bigotry and hatred so uproariously funny speaks
volumes.

Creep.

CJC (catfish@wilhelp.com) wrote:

: Mad Falcon ate my balls!

Ouch!!!!!
-- 
Nathan D Richards
Toronto, Canada.
WWW: http://www.sunspot.org/webmaster.html
IRC: nathanr21!nathanr@sunspot.org on EFnet (irc.passport.ca or irc.rift.com)

Dmytri Kleiner (dmytrik@syntac.net) wrote:

: The fact that you find your bigotry and hatred so uproariously funny speaks
: volumes.

Now I'm starting to wonder what else amuses the Nabster.

How could he POSSIBLY jump to the conclusion that I am suposedly gay?   
(We ALL know that's what he meant)
Just because I work with you and the TFCN (not to mention the 519) means 
absolutely NOTHING.  Nabil seems to think it does.  *shrug*

Go figure..
-- 
Nathan D Richards
Toronto, Canada.
WWW: http://www.sunspot.org/webmaster.html
IRC: nathanr21!nathanr@sunspot.org on EFnet (irc.passport.ca or irc.rift.com)

Dmytri Kleiner (dmytrik@echo-on.net) wrote:

	...

: One must understand that by "investigations" the Mad Falcon really means
: "hallucinations".

Well, actually, the conspiracy that Nabil is talking about is not only in
his mind. Although it is for the most part in his mind. Perhaps Nabil is
only an expression of a certain malaise in our society. Nobody paid any
attention to Mike Harris either before the elections...

I remember that Nabil was the only one Bob Allisat put in his killfile. So
maybe Nabil is controlled by B0B!!!

ThE PlOt ThIcKeNs...

Yuri.

Yuri Kuchinsky in Toronto -=O=- http://www.io.org/~yuku

To be is to do.                
                -- I. Kant     
To do is to be.                
                -- J.-P. Sartre   
Yabba-Dabba-Doo!               
                -- F. Flinstone

Yuri Kuchinsky (yuku@mail.trends.ca) wrote:
: Dmytri Kleiner (dmytrik@echo-on.net) wrote:

: 	...

: : One must understand that by "investigations" the Mad Falcon really means
: : "hallucinations".

: Well, actually, the conspiracy that Nabil is talking about is not only in
: his mind. Although it is for the most part in his mind. Perhaps Nabil is
: only an expression of a certain malaise in our society. Nobody paid any
: attention to Mike Harris either before the elections...

Yes, I do believe so. A very critical malaise. Namely, marginalization 
and denial of participation of 'minorities' (though in fact for those who 
are interested in demographics, the picture is changing. Nevertheless, 
WASPS still fight for control by any means, including intimidation.

Actually being compared to Harris is a definite compliment. I admire the 
man. He had the courage to take the necessary painful steps to ensure 
that the current society debts are not 'delegated' to the future 
generations. Personally, I suffered from such measures while I was on 
welfare, but that did not blind me to the necessity of such measures. 

It seems to me that the post-war 'ME' generation will never forgive any 
one who takes the necessary hard steps. Particularly those 'Canadians' 
who see welfare as a way of life ;-)

: I remember that Nabil was the only one Bob Allisat put in his killfile. So
: maybe Nabil is controlled by B0B!!!

Glad you still remember that. That is why I stated that no body can 
out-wit me and give Bob as an example :-) How did you arrive to the 
conclusion that I am 'controlled' by Bob beats me. In fact, I do respect 
Bob Allisat for being a true activist that obeys his 'conscious' and is 
capable of changing alliances. This cannot be said for most 'activoids'.

: ThE PlOt ThIcKeNs...

So are the brains of some people ;-)

: Yuri.

: Yuri Kuchinsky in Toronto -=O=- http://www.io.org/~yuku

: To be is to do.                
:                 -- I. Kant     
: To do is to be.                
:                 -- J.-P. Sartre   
: Yabba-Dabba-Doo!               
:                 -- F. Flinstone
-- 
---------------------------O00Oo-   -o000O----------------------------
Nabil M. El-Khodari              \ / "Men use thought to justify their 
IP, TFN                           V  injustices, and speech to conceal 
                                  |  their thoughts"        -Voltaire-

David Jones (dej@torfree.net) wrote:

<snip>

: No excuse.

No comment :-) But please do not give excuses yourself ;-)

: You also failed to account for Sunday (non)service.

: The instructions you posted were correct for weekday service, but not
: for the Sunday of the meeting.  You blew it, construction or not.
: Furthermore, you continued to post messages with false information even
: after I had posted replies pointing out your errors.

Blew what? There was a car pool arranged. All those who were interested 
to attend came. Yes, I have to admit that I was not aware of the change 
of the TTC service in that particular day. However, there were other 
means available for those interested.

I would appreciate a list of names of any person who was interested to 
attend and failed to do so because of 'misinformation' and/or confusion 
because of lack of transportation (and I mean people that really tried 
and couldn't).

What false information? May be you can dig out something from the 
archives? If you do (and I believe you won't), please publish it complete.

May I request that at least the TFN board should have thanked the person 
who donated the place (and was ready to donate the larger meeting room if 
necessary) for his donation???? It is never too late :-)

Now that you are exchanging allegations, may I point out that if there is 
a single person that had failed the TFN it is you (not that I do not 
appreciate and commend your efforts for the TFN). 

Who promised to finish the tiered approach software by January 1st, 1997? 
Who blew out the volunteer efforts to design the needed 'whole page 
ads'? 

I delivered what I promised, a free place to meet for an unspecified 
period of time in the couple of days I had. All other efforts to arrange 
for such a place in the morning (so as you can leave to Ottawa at night 
failed). 
-- 
---------------------------O00Oo-   -o000O----------------------------
Nabil M. El-Khodari              \ / "Men use thought to justify their 
IP, TFN                           V  injustices, and speech to conceal 
                                  |  their thoughts"        -Voltaire-

In article <34ed5c5e.6948844@news.alt.net>, dmytrik@syntac.net is reputed to 
have said...

>Thanks Robbie!
>
>Even though the toronto newsgroups have produced more kooks per square inch
>than any where in the usenet multiverse, I think you'll find some of our
>newsgroup denizens to be a little uninformed as to finer workings of the KoTM
>awards.
>
>Please post instructions for Voting so that Nabil can finally win something,
>something he richly deserves: the Kook of the Month award.
>
>Nabil for KoTM! When you think "Kook" think "Nabil!" Vote Nabil El-Khodari!

A link to the KotM page has been added to the Nabil Paranoia Archive site at
http://www.internalysis.com/kooks/nabster/

-- 
-Marc Bissonnette
Internalysis
Corporate Competitive Intelligence, Research and Results

		  <<  posted & mailed  >>

On 10 Feb 1998 21:57:42 GMT, Marc Bissonnette wrote:

+  In article <34ed5c5e.6948844@news.alt.net>, dmytrik@syntac.net is reputed to 
+  have said...
+  
+  >Thanks Robbie!
+  >
+  >Even though the toronto newsgroups have produced more kooks per square inch
+  >than any where in the usenet multiverse, I think you'll find some of our
+  >newsgroup denizens to be a little uninformed as to finer workings of the KoTM
+  >awards.
+  >
+  >Please post instructions for Voting so that Nabil can finally win something,
+  >something he richly deserves: the Kook of the Month award.
+  >
+  >Nabil for KoTM! When you think "Kook" think "Nabil!" Vote Nabil El-Khodari!
+  
+  A link to the KotM page has been added to the Nabil Paranoia Archive site at
+  http://www.internalysis.com/kooks/nabster/

FYI:

The website:

http://www.wetware.com/mlegare/kotm/

is the site created by Matthew Legare, the *OLD* KoTM vote wrangler,
and is no longer the official KoTM site, not is it update with new
KoTM nominees any more. It's a dead site.

The *NEW* vote wrangler is Robbie Honerkamp and the new KoTM site can
be found at:

http://web.shorty.com/kotm/

Vote Nabil El-Khodari KoTM February '98!
Vote Nabil El-Khodari KoTM February '98!
Vote Nabil El-Khodari KoTM February '98!
Vote Nabil El-Khodari KoTM February '98!




           +++
 
           Dmytri Kleiner <dmytrik@syntac.net>

dmytrik@syntac.net (Dmytri Kleiner) writes:

>The *NEW* vote wrangler is Robbie Honerkamp and the new KoTM site can
>be found at:

>http://web.shorty.com/kotm/

Voopvoopavoop WRONG!  The new Vote Wrangler is *ME*!  The new KOTM site
is http://members.iglou.com/bathroom/kooks.html
-- 
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In alt.usenet.kooks Dmytri Kleiner <dmytrik@syntac.net> wrote:
: The website:

: http://www.wetware.com/mlegare/kotm/

: is the site created by Matthew Legare, the *OLD* KoTM vote wrangler,
: and is no longer the official KoTM site, not is it update with new
: KoTM nominees any more. It's a dead site.

It's still an important site, dead or not, because it has much more historical
information on it that I haven't finished adding to the new KOTM site yet.

: The *NEW* vote wrangler is Robbie Honerkamp and the new KoTM site can
: be found at:

: http://web.shorty.com/kotm/

My site only has an outline of the new KOTM voting procedures. There's more
content coming. 

Robbie

-- 
Robbie Honerkamp
robbie@shorty.com  http://www.shorty.com/~robbie/
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