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Article #22Re: Critical Mass author appears in Davis, 11/4
From: cucycln
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:10
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:10
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I agree with what you said... I bet the hammerfest is the RIVER RIDE... in which they do take up the whole leve road.. I've done it so many times and like alot of others get very disappointed in some of the attitudes of the riders. They think it's the TDF and they are in Europe...not good for PR for cyclist either.. Dale... "John Smith" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:apqc7f$3u5t1$1@ID-158300.news.dfncis.de... > > "cucycln" <cucycln@bwr.eastlink.ca> wrote in message > news:HUBv9.162647$C8.411805@nnrp1.uunet.ca... > > Yes the streets are a Public place.........So why does CM think that they > > can block and stop traffic, break all traffic laws. They aren't reclaiming > > the streets......they are abusing the streets. One day because of there > > actions......bikes will not be allowed on the streets. Plus all the CM I > > have seen 95% of the riders don't know what a bike is......ie: they loose > > the confidence of the voting public. > > Again I'm ashamed and really surprised that a good Bike Club that Davis > has > > would allow such a thing. I think Davis Bike Club should take the CM on > > their next Double Century and see how long the DC would last. Maybe an > hour > > before it would be shut down. > > What do you think Davis BC????? > > I personally don't want to be involved in a CM argument, but I did the Davis > Double this year. With over 900 cyclists it took over the road as much as > CM does. I also do weekend hammerfest rides in my town and recreational > racer types are also as obstructive to motor vehicle traffic as CM. Motor > vehicle users, however, have taken over the roads far more, with greater > arrogance than any bicyclist group. When I drive in a car I don't expect > (nor do I find) that I have unimpeded progress. There are all kinds of road > users and I often have to wait. Mostly for other motorists. > > > > "Paul Dorn" <pcdorn@ucdavis.edu> wrote in message > > news:29cc6837.0210290929.5c25dfb1@posting.google.com... > > > John David Galt <jdg@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> wrote in message > > news:<3DBDBE57.BCE865B5@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us>... > > > > Sign my petition to have the law enforced against the Massholes! > > > > http://www.PetitionOnline.com/srbd01/ > > > > > > The attitudes expressed in petitions like this one are precisely why > > > events such as Critical Mass, Reclaim the Streets, and other actions > > > have become necessary. Streets belong to everyone--kids playing ball, > > > protesters, parades, festivals, fairs, pedestrians, bicyclists, > > > etc.--and not simply drivers. Since the dawn of civilization, streets > > > have been the principal public space of any community. Arriving just > > > over 100 years ago, automobiles are a recent intruder onto our roads > > > and streets. And it's clear that their unfettered presence degrades > > > the urban environment significantly. Streets are *public* space, and > > > not simply utilitarian corridors for auto traffic. There are lots of > > > things more important than driver convenience, such as clean air and > > > water, preservation of open space, neighborhood quality of life, > > > livable communities, safety for seniors and children, etc. If you > > > don't like getting stuck in traffic, the solution is simple: Don't > > > Drive! > > > > > > Paul Dorn > > > Davis, CA > > > http://www.runmuki.com/paul > > > > > >
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