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In comp.os.linux.hardware Tim Joseph <tim@josep.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I'm about to purchase a new PC from Mesh Plc (UK). They have a number of
> configurations, and so I was wondering if any of the bits and pieces are
> been successfully used under Linux already (I'm thinking of using
> Slackware 3.5).

As always, there are several places to check --- namely the "supported
hardware" sections of the various distributions. I generally recommend
http://www.suse.de/cdb/english/, since they also include they XSuse
X-servers.

Some general comments:

> 2. Video Card

Is generally a problem. Make sure you check the "supported hardware".
Using an unsupported board just sucks.

> 3. Audio Card

Is also a problem, but much less (since it doesn't really matter whether
the board is supported or not --- your system will work just fine).

> 5. Hard drive (Ultra ATA DMA) and CDROM are both standard (IDE?).

IDE is not a standard :-) Anyway, it's the adapter that counts, not
the actual drive (at least for SCSI, but I think it's the same for IDE).

> 6. Monitor

Doesn't matter at all, as long as it matches the capabilities of the gfx
board.

> 7. Memory is "Ultra Fast" (100Mhz?) SDRAM.

Doesn't matter to Linux.

Christian


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Tim Joseph wrote in message <35DC894D.69B6203B@josep.demon.co>...
>Hi,
>
>I'm about to purchase a new PC from Mesh Plc (UK). They have a number of
>configurations, and so I was wondering if any of the bits and pieces are
>been successfully used under Linux already (I'm thinking of using
>Slackware 3.5).
>
>If anyone has any views or pieces of advice on any of the components,
>not just from a Linux point of view, but also from a general
>reliability/usability/performance viewpoint, they'd be more than
>welcome.
>
>Also, any comments on dealing with Mesh?
>
>The bits available are...
>
>1. Intel Pentium II 300MHz, Intel 440BX Chipset

Avoid the 300-go with the 333, unless you're planning on replacing your
furnace with the computer.  The 300s run _very_ hot.

>2. Video Card
>either    8mb ATI 3D Xpert98
>or        8mb Matrox Productiva G100
>or        8mb Hercules Terminator 128/3D AGP

Check the supported hardware for your release--the G100 is not supported as
far as I know by 2.0.  I've not played with it enough yet to figure out if
there's a workaround.

Personally I'd find an S3-based board.

>3. Audio Card
>either    Creative Labs AWE65 Wavetable Soundcard
>or        Ensoniq AudioPCI on board
>or        Creative Labs SoundBlaster Vibra 16 Soundcard

Vibra 16's your best bet.  The AWE64 can be made to work.

>4. Internal IDE (ATAPI) Zip Drive

Dunno about Zip support.  Things have always seemed kind of pointless to me
so I've never played with them.
>
>5. Hard drive (Ultra ATA DMA) and CDROM are both standard (IDE?).

Neither is an issue.  Both will work fine with recent kernels.

>6. Monitor
>either    17" ADI Microscan 5GT
>or        17" MAG D700 TCO92
>or        17" Taxan Ergovision 730 TCO95
>or        19" ADI TCO95 Microscan 6P

Buy whichever one you most like looking at.  Linux doesn't really care about
the monitor.

>7. Memory is "Ultra Fast" (100Mhz?) SDRAM.

If you're using a 333 or less this is not important.  If you're using a 350
or higher then you have to have fast RAM as those processors run on a 100
MHz bus rather than 66, and non-PC100 RAM will get flakey.  But fast RAM
won't make a 300 run any faster.
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>From,
>
>Tim

--

--John

Reply to jclarke at eye bee em dot net.

On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 21:38:37 +0100, Tim Joseph <tim@josep.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Some good places to check for HW compatability are www.suse.com and
www.redhat.com.

>1. Intel Pentium II 300MHz, Intel 440BX Chipset

Fine.

>2. Video Card
>either    8mb ATI 3D Xpert98
>or        8mb Matrox Productiva G100
>or        8mb Hercules Terminator 128/3D AGP

Not sure.  I made a point of getting the older Matrox Millenium II AGP to
ensure compatability.

>3. Audio Card
>either    Creative Labs AWE65 Wavetable Soundcard
>or        Ensoniq AudioPCI on board
>or        Creative Labs SoundBlaster Vibra 16 Soundcard

All sound OK.  See http://www.4front-tech.com/osshw.html

>4. Internal IDE (ATAPI) Zip Drive

Should be fine.

>5. Hard drive (Ultra ATA DMA) and CDROM are both standard (IDE?).

SCSI support is still probably better than Ultra DMA support.

>6. Monitor
>either    17" ADI Microscan 5GT
>or        17" MAG D700 TCO92
>or        17" Taxan Ergovision 730 TCO95
>or        19" ADI TCO95 Microscan 6P

I don't like MAG monitors.  I'm not familiar with Taxan.  The 19" ADI is a
very good value.

Here's a 1280x1024@85Hz modeline for the MicroScan 6P:

Modeline "1280x1024" 157.50 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 
+hsync +vsync 

(All on one line).  That's just a standard VESA mode actually, but for some
reason Redhat's Xconfigurator tool doesn't configure it.

>7. Memory is "Ultra Fast" (100Mhz?) SDRAM.

Should be fine.

Dave Cook

Tim Joseph wrote:

> 4. Internal IDE (ATAPI) Zip Drive
>

Just like to say, I have one installed, and it is mounted as a standard IDE
device.

One curious thing however, when you 'umount' it, if you have been accessing
it recently, it won't allow you to eject the disc for a good 5 minuites or
so.  If you havn't accessed it for a while, it'll pop out as soon as you
press the button.

Note: I have no zip utilities installed, so it's maybe not too sure about
the drive.

Gav.

Hi Gavin.

I think this is because Linux is caching the Drives.
You can�t get a ZIP out of the Drive (like a Disk) if any process is using
the Zip in any way.

May to use a sync or a other Util to clear all puffers and caches, then it
must be done.

This is also a problem under Windows NT for example!

hth
Ray

Gavin Cameron schrieb in Nachricht <35DD59BD.1B9D01B7@gecm.com>...
>Tim Joseph wrote:
>
>> 4. Internal IDE (ATAPI) Zip Drive
>>
>
>Just like to say, I have one installed, and it is mounted as a standard IDE
>device.
>
>One curious thing however, when you 'umount' it, if you have been accessing
>it recently, it won't allow you to eject the disc for a good 5 minuites or
>so.  If you havn't accessed it for a while, it'll pop out as soon as you
>press the button.
>
>Note: I have no zip utilities installed, so it's maybe not too sure about
>the drive.
>
>Gav.
>

In article <35DC894D.69B6203B@josep.demon.co>, Tim Joseph
<tim@josep.demon.co.uk> writes
>4. Internal IDE (ATAPI) Zip Drive
Yes - works fine though use fdisk to check the partitions
as the MSDOS one seems to appear as partition 4 !  On one
ZIP disk - I removed the MSDOS partition and replaced it
with ext2 and installed RedHat 5 however I couldn't quite
squeeze X11 onto it !!!

>5. Hard drive (Ultra ATA DMA) and CDROM are both standard (IDE?).
No problems IMHE

A
-- 
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A S Measures (alastair@camel.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> >4. Internal IDE (ATAPI) Zip Drive
> Yes - works fine though use fdisk to check the partitions
> as the MSDOS one seems to appear as partition 4 !

I've also seen partition 1 being used.  Here's what I came
up with (sda for SCSI,  replace with hda for IDE):

    #!/bin/sh

    # Usage: zipmount

    for i in 1 2 3 4 
    do
        /sbin/mount /dev/sda$i /zip
    done

Regards,
                                                       Larry
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87GT                          http://www.citilink.com/~larry

On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 21:38:37 +0100, Tim Joseph <tim@josep.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>
>1. Intel Pentium II 300MHz, Intel 440BX Chipset

I have PII 266 and it works like a dream

>2. Video Card
>either    8mb ATI 3D Xpert98
>or        8mb Matrox Productiva G100
>or        8mb Hercules Terminator 128/3D AGP

ATI All in Wonder Pro 2x 8Mb AGP works great for me.  They use the
same chipset which is Mach64 so you shouldn't have any problems with
the XPert98

>3. Audio Card
>either    Creative Labs AWE65 Wavetable Soundcard
>or        Ensoniq AudioPCI on board
>or        Creative Labs SoundBlaster Vibra 16 Soundcard

AWE 64 Gold works great for me.  Can never hurt to stay with the
standard.

>4. Internal IDE (ATAPI) Zip Drive
>
>5. Hard drive (Ultra ATA DMA) and CDROM are both standard (IDE?).

My Quantum Bigfoot 12Gb drive is Ultra ATA and I havent had any
problems out of it yet.  The first one I received was bad but the new
one has worked perfectly

Christian Stieber (stieber@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE) wrote:
: In comp.os.linux.hardware Tim Joseph <tim@josep.demon.co.uk> wrote:

: > I'm about to purchase a new PC from Mesh Plc (UK). They have a number of
: > configurations, and so I was wondering if any of the bits and pieces are
: > been successfully used under Linux already (I'm thinking of using
: > Slackware 3.5).

: As always, there are several places to check --- namely the "supported
: hardware" sections of the various distributions. I generally recommend
: http://www.suse.de/cdb/english/, since they also include they XSuse
: X-servers.

You would be better to buy from a supplier who would install Linux for you.
Then they would have no recourse to "non-standard" software as an excuse for
failure.

: Some general comments:

: > 2. Video Card

: Is generally a problem. Make sure you check the "supported hardware".
: Using an unsupported board just sucks.

: > 3. Audio Card

: Is also a problem, but much less (since it doesn't really matter whether
: the board is supported or not --- your system will work just fine).

: > 5. Hard drive (Ultra ATA DMA) and CDROM are both standard (IDE?).

: IDE is not a standard :-) Anyway, it's the adapter that counts, not
: the actual drive (at least for SCSI, but I think it's the same for IDE).

SCSI is *much* better than IDE - particularly when multi-user/tasking.

: > 6. Monitor

: Doesn't matter at all, as long as it matches the capabilities of the gfx
: board.

: > 7. Memory is "Ultra Fast" (100Mhz?) SDRAM.

: Doesn't matter to Linux.

: Christian

Geoff
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Tim Joseph wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm about to purchase a new PC from Mesh Plc (UK). They have a number of
> configurations, and so I was wondering if any of the bits and pieces are
> been successfully used under Linux already (I'm thinking of using
> Slackware 3.5).
> 
> If anyone has any views or pieces of advice on any of the components,
> not just from a Linux point of view, but also from a general
> reliability/usability/performance viewpoint, they'd be more than
> welcome.
> 
> Also, any comments on dealing with Mesh?
> 
> The bits available are...
> 
> 1. Intel Pentium II 300MHz, Intel 440BX Chipset

Nice.

> 2. Video Card
> either    8mb ATI 3D Xpert98

Think it's supported

> or        8mb Matrox Productiva G100

NOT supported

> or        8mb Hercules Terminator 128/3D AGP

Think this one's supported through a SuSe X-Server. http://www.suse.com

> 3. Audio Card
> either    Creative Labs AWE65 Wavetable Soundcard

Works as an SB16

> or        Ensoniq AudioPCI on board

Donno.

> or        Creative Labs SoundBlaster Vibra 16 Soundcard

Should work as an SB16

> 4. Internal IDE (ATAPI) Zip Drive

No prob. Will be considered a harddisk to the os (mount from /dev/hd?)

> 5. Hard drive (Ultra ATA DMA) and CDROM are both standard (IDE?).

No prob.

> 6. Monitor
> either    17" ADI Microscan 5GT

EXCELLENT monitor. Got the 21" myself.

> or        17" MAG D700 TCO92
> or        17" Taxan Ergovision 730 TCO95
> or        19" ADI TCO95 Microscan 6P

As long as you've got the hsync and vsync for the monitor, all is well.
Go for one with high refresh rates at high frequencies.

> 7. Memory is "Ultra Fast" (100Mhz?) SDRAM.

Shouldn't be a problem
If you've got over 64 MB, put an "MEM=??MB" line in when configuring
lilo.

Cooper
-- 
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Cooper <Cooper@Mindless.com> wrote in article
<35DE065F.7A90FA1D@Mindless.com>...
> Tim Joseph wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm about to purchase a new PC from Mesh Plc (UK). They have a number
of
> > configurations, and so I was wondering if any of the bits and pieces
are
> > been successfully used under Linux already (I'm thinking of using
> > Slackware 3.5).
> > 
> > If anyone has any views or pieces of advice on any of the components,
> > not just from a Linux point of view, but also from a general
> > reliability/usability/performance viewpoint, they'd be more than
> > welcome.
> > 
> > Also, any comments on dealing with Mesh?
> > 
> > The bits available are...
> > 
> > 1. Intel Pentium II 300MHz, Intel 440BX Chipset
> 
> Nice.
> 
> > 2. Video Card
> > either    8mb ATI 3D Xpert98
> 
> Think it's supported
> 
> > or        8mb Matrox Productiva G100
> 
> NOT supported
> 
> > or        8mb Hercules Terminator 128/3D AGP
> 
> Think this one's supported through a SuSe X-Server. http://www.suse.com
> 
> > 3. Audio Card
> > either    Creative Labs AWE65 Wavetable Soundcard
> 
> Works as an SB16
> 
> > or        Ensoniq AudioPCI on board
They have support in 2.1.x kernels, and oss has support ($20 US) for 2.0.x
kernels
> 
> Donno.
> 
> > or        Creative Labs SoundBlaster Vibra 16 Soundcard
> 
> Should work as an SB16
Yup
> 
> > 4. Internal IDE (ATAPI) Zip Drive
> 
> No prob. Will be considered a harddisk to the os (mount from /dev/hd?)
Not anymore, its considered a removable ide floppy in kernel 2.0.31 and
higher,
just build in removable ide floppy support into kernel.
> 
> > 5. Hard drive (Ultra ATA DMA) and CDROM are both standard (IDE?).
> 
> No prob.
> 
> > 6. Monitor
> > either    17" ADI Microscan 5GT
> 
> EXCELLENT monitor. Got the 21" myself.
> 
> > or        17" MAG D700 TCO92
Mags are good, dont know about that paricular model but I have a MX15F 
that I have had since the begining of time it seems, perfect output still.
It still runs good a 100Mhz refresh on all resolutions I run.


> 
> As long as you've got the hsync and vsync for the monitor, all is well.
> Go for one with high refresh rates at high frequencies.
> 
> > 7. Memory is "Ultra Fast" (100Mhz?) SDRAM.
> 
> Shouldn't be a problem
> If you've got over 64 MB, put an "MEM=??MB" line in when configuring
> lilo.
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"J. Clarke" <nospam@nospam.nospam> writes:

> >2. Video Card
> >either    8mb ATI 3D Xpert98
> >or        8mb Matrox Productiva G100
> >or        8mb Hercules Terminator 128/3D AGP
> 
> Check the supported hardware for your release--the G100 is not supported as
> far as I know by 2.0.  I've not played with it enough yet to figure out if
> there's a workaround.
> 
> Personally I'd find an S3-based board.

At least some S3 based video cards don't work on LX (and possibly BX)
motherboards.  For example my old #9 GXE64Pro (S3-964 based) did not work when
I upgraded from a Pentium to a Pentium-II (using an Abit LX6 motherboard).

-- 
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davecook@home.com (David M. Cook) writes:

> >6. Monitor
> >either    17" ADI Microscan 5GT
> >or        17" MAG D700 TCO92
> >or        17" Taxan Ergovision 730 TCO95
> >or        19" ADI TCO95 Microscan 6P
> 
> I don't like MAG monitors.  I'm not familiar with Taxan.  The 19" ADI is a
> very good value.

It is usually best to actually see the monitor in question at the appropriate
resolution, particularly if you suffer from migraines (I find anything under
75Hz to be unviewable).  My 3 year old Mag (DX17F) is definately low end, and I
prefer the more expensive 17" Nokia 447X monitor I used for awhile (until I
rev'ed up to a 21" Nokia for my work system).

-- 
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4th floor, 955 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA
meissner@cygnus.com,	617-354-5416 (office),	617-354-7161 (fax)

In demon.tech.unix A S Measures <alastair@camel.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: In article <35DC894D.69B6203B@josep.demon.co>, Tim Joseph
: <tim@josep.demon.co.uk> writes
:>4. Internal IDE (ATAPI) Zip Drive
: Yes - works fine though use fdisk to check the partitions
: as the MSDOS one seems to appear as partition 4 !  On one
: ZIP disk - I removed the MSDOS partition and replaced it
: with ext2 and installed RedHat 5 however I couldn't quite
: squeeze X11 onto it !!!

You weren't trying hard enough.

I've had X up and running on 30Mb before.
The key is to not install what you don't need.

ls -l |sort -k5
is your friend.

Do you need XV, or will zgv do, do you need x11perf, do you need four window
managers, ...

Then run it for a while, move the files that you don't use (man find)
and carry on running, tuning it to the files you use.

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On Fri, 21 Aug 1998 15:57:05 GMT, Mr. Paul <olde@heterosexual.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 21:38:37 +0100, Tim Joseph <tim@josep.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
>>
>>1. Intel Pentium II 300MHz, Intel 440BX Chipset
>
>I have PII 266 and it works like a dream
>
>>2. Video Card
>>either    8mb ATI 3D Xpert98
>>or        8mb Matrox Productiva G100
>>or        8mb Hercules Terminator 128/3D AGP
>
>ATI All in Wonder Pro 2x 8Mb AGP works great for me.  They use the
>same chipset which is Mach64 so you shouldn't have any problems with
>the XPert98
>

Just got my AIWPro working - very nice;-) However if you're worried about
video cards check out www.xfree86.org and follow the links to the docs - 
should give you all the info you require to see if your card will work

>>3. Audio Card
>
>AWE 64 Gold works great for me.  Can never hurt to stay with the
>standard.

Vibra16 is fine (I hook it througha yamaha wavetable which improves 
it no end, although I don't think there's XG support yet)
>
>>4. Internal IDE (ATAPI) Zip Drive

A vast improvement in speed over the parallel port version I used to have

>>5. Hard drive (Ultra ATA DMA) and CDROM are both standard (IDE?).
>
No disk troubles with any of the seagate/maxtor/quantum which have 
been in my system.


--------------
Simeon W Farrington

swf_unix@netcomuxk.co.uxk
(remove the x's to reply)

Hi

|| > > I'm about to purchase a new PC from Mesh Plc (UK). They have a
|| > > number of configurations, and so I was wondering if any of the
|| > > bits and pieces are been successfully used under Linux already
|| > > (I'm thinking of using Slackware 3.5).

We bought some PCs from Mesh a few weeks ago and they were supplied to
us with HSP modems, these are useless with Linux.  This is "clear"
from the ads in Computer Shopper/etc if you read the small print!  We
didn't and so have had to buy replacements.  AFAIK they work fine in
Windoze though.  And I don't rate the Taxan 17" monitors they sent us
very highly, everything else seemed fine.  PII 266 systems.

Kev

Tim Joseph wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm about to purchase a new PC from Mesh Plc (UK). They have
> a number of configurations, ... The bits available are:
> 
> 1. Intel Pentium II 300MHz, Intel 440BX Chipset

Yah, so there's no choice in the processor, ah well.

> 2. Video Card
> either    8mb ATI 3D Xpert98
> or        8mb Matrox Productiva G100
> or        8mb Hercules Terminator 128/3D AGP

Skip the AGP for Linux, since X doesn't currently have good
support for AGP, and AGP is a load of outdated hooey anyway
(it is based on the premise that you don't have enough RAM
on your video card and that RAM is expensive, neither of
which is true nowadays)

> 3. Audio Card
> either    Creative Labs AWE65 Wavetable Soundcard
> or        Ensoniq AudioPCI on board
> or        Creative Labs SoundBlaster Vibra 16 Soundcard

Check the SoundCard HOWTO (or whatever it is called) and
make sure that whatever you get is listed as supported
there, or else (if you have a running Linux system) check
what the version of the kernel you will be using supports
(try running "make menuconfig" and hop down to sound card
driver modules). I'd get either of the Creative cards, out
of habit more than anything else.

> 4. Internal IDE (ATAPI) Zip Drive

I've got one in my machine and it works fine, check out the
Zip Drive HOWTO for details.

> 5. Hard drive (Ultra ATA DMA) and CDROM are both standard.

Ultra DMA support is not all there yet, in Linux (at least not
as of 2.0.33, but I can't vouch for anything newer or for the
development kernels) but the stuff should work fine, just not
quite as fast as rated.

> 6. Monitor
> either    17" ADI Microscan 5GT
> or        17" MAG D700 TCO92
> or        17" Taxan Ergovision 730 TCO95
> or        19" ADI TCO95 Microscan 6P

Get the largest and best monitor you can afford, this will
make the biggest difference in your user experience, even
more than the a fast processor. If you can, try out the
monitors in person first (or make sure you can return it
if you are not satisfied) as some of the cheaper monitors
can be blurry and will cause you grief. (headaches, eye
strain etc.)

> 7. Memory is "Ultra Fast" (100Mhz?) SDRAM.

Make sure that it is "PC-100" SDRAM so that it can keep up
with a 100MHz memory bus (which will probably be what the
PII-300 uses on the 440BX motherboard).

There is a good article by Eric Raymond (a little dated now,
but the theory still holds) about how to buy a computer for
Linux, see:

<http://earthspace.net/~esr/clone-hw-guide/>

For the full text.

- Jeff Dutky

In demon.tech.unix Michael Meissner <meissner@cygnus.com> wrote:
: davecook@home.com (David M. Cook) writes:

:> >6. Monitor
:> >either    17" ADI Microscan 5GT
:> >or        17" MAG D700 TCO92
:> >or        17" Taxan Ergovision 730 TCO95
:> >or        19" ADI TCO95 Microscan 6P
:> 
:> I don't like MAG monitors.  I'm not familiar with Taxan.  The 19" ADI is a
:> very good value.

: It is usually best to actually see the monitor in question at the appropriate
: resolution, particularly if you suffer from migraines (I find anything under
: 75Hz to be unviewable).  My 3 year old Mag (DX17F) is definately low end, and I
: prefer the more expensive 17" Nokia 447X monitor I used for awhile (until I
: rev'ed up to a 21" Nokia for my work system).

Agreed, it's a personal thing.

I quite like 640x480x24x150fps, feels totally different than lower refresh
rates.

Or for those times I feel silly, I've got 1600*1125, which is the absoulte
maximum my card will do, for some reason, RAM seems to indicate it should get
2400*1600 or so.

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>>1. Intel Pentium II 300MHz, Intel 440BX Chipset
>
>Avoid the 300-go with the 333, unless you're planning on replacing your
>furnace with the computer.  The 300s run _very_ hot.


Mine doesn't, after 3 days non stop use, it's the same temperature as the
PSU (room temp). I've got an LX motherboard though...

HDD is very hot though,

>>7. Memory is "Ultra Fast" (100Mhz?) SDRAM.
>
>If you're using a 333 or less this is not important.  If you're using a 350
>or higher then you have to have fast RAM as those processors run on a 100
>MHz bus rather than 66, and non-PC100 RAM will get flakey.  But fast RAM
>won't make a 300 run any faster.


doesn't the BX *have* to have 100MHz ram as  I thought it ran at 100MHz.

ANyone know what bus speed my 286 12MHZ is :)?
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>>From,
>>
>>Tim
>
>--
>
>--John
>
>Reply to jclarke at eye bee em dot net.
>
>
>


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In article <35DE065F.7A90FA1D@Mindless.com>, Cooper
<Cooper@Mindless.com> writes

<SNIP, Major>

>> 7. Memory is "Ultra Fast" (100Mhz?) SDRAM.
>
>Shouldn't be a problem
>If you've got over 64 MB, put an "MEM=??MB" line in when configuring
>lilo.

How?

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Jeffrey S. Dutky wrote:
> 
> Skip the AGP for Linux, since X doesn't currently have good
> support for AGP, and AGP is a load of outdated hooey anyway
> (it is based on the premise that you don't have enough RAM
> on your video card and that RAM is expensive, neither of
> which is true nowadays)

OTOH, are there any actual problems with AGP versions of common cards?
Apart from that, putting a PCI card in a machine with an AGP socket is
wasting a PCI slot for the sake of saving peanuts in the cost.

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In article <903800189.3368.0.nnrp-04.c2def53a@news.demon.co.uk>, Paul
Weaver <paul@weaver.demon.co.uk> writes
>ANyone know what bus speed my 286 12MHZ is :)?

12MHtz - previous to 486dx/2s intel processors ran at the same speed as
the rest of the motherboard. The expansion bus is probably goung at
about 8MHtz though.

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In article <rSfD1.1375$813.4753343@ptah.visi.com>, Lars Michael
<larry@citilink.com> writes
>> >4. Internal IDE (ATAPI) Zip Drive
>> Yes - works fine though use fdisk to check the partitions
>> as the MSDOS one seems to appear as partition 4 !
>
>I've also seen partition 1 being used.  Here's what I came
>up with (sda for SCSI,  replace with hda for IDE):

It'd be hdb, hdc or hdd - hda will probably be the [1st] hard-drive.

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