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"nospamplease" <nospamplease@mo.com> wrote in message 
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> Libs to block the super tax, market slide halted after news breaks
> about this.
>
> On 10 news in Perth tonight a ALP young couple who have always voted
> ALP said they lost $100,000+ due to Rudds super tax announcement and
> would never vote ALP again.


So how much have they got invested to lose $100.000?
Sounds like your typical struggling young Australian Family.
I wonder if they did complain when pensioners got slugged with a 10% GST.


And the Lord said to Moses:
"Blessed are the greedy for they shall inherit the Millionairs Heaven"



>
> Meanwhile another 25 miners met the PM and all have said they'll halt
> projects worth over $40b.
>
> I can see another backflip coming from the PM.
> The recent ones have been the ETS, bats, boat people and coming soon
> the biggest flip of them all the super tax.
>
> Just shows the Rudd government doesn't think before they act on
> anything.
>
> How to destroy Australia in one easy step. Someone is making money out
> of all this. If you look back to before any news of a super tax
> millions of shares were being sold left right and centre.
>
> Time the accc looked into all this.
>
> Really needs a royal commision into the Rudd stuff ups.
> Considering Rudd has thousands of comitte meetings worth squilions
> every year and takes no notice of anything and goes out on a limb all
> the time, no wonder the country is in such a mess.
>
> I've been a ALP voter, voted Libs when Howard came along foir the
> first few times but switched to Rudd like everyone else. My biggest
> mistake. Lesson leant. As many others are saying from traditional ALP
> voters.
>
> I know friends that work for the Greens and they are not happy that
> the Greens are backing Rudd. Greens not thought this through at all.
> Still they won't matter now, Libs can block it with those two IND's
> and my greatest wish would be they block supply and force an early
> election before its to late.
>
> 

On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:20:32 GMT, nospamplease@mo.com (nospamplease)
wrote:

>Libs to block the super tax, market slide halted after news breaks
>about this.
>
>On 10 news in Perth tonight a ALP young couple who have always voted
>ALP said they lost $100,000+ due to Rudds super tax announcement and
>would never vote ALP again.
>
>Meanwhile another 25 miners met the PM and all have said they'll halt
>projects worth over $40b.
>
>I can see another backflip coming from the PM.
>The recent ones have been the ETS, bats, boat people and coming soon
>the biggest flip of them all the super tax.
>
>Just shows the Rudd government doesn't think before they act on
>anything.
>
>How to destroy Australia in one easy step. Someone is making money out
>of all this. If you look back to before any news of a super tax
>millions of shares were being sold left right and centre.
>
>Time the accc looked into all this.
>
>Really needs a royal commision into the Rudd stuff ups.
>Considering Rudd has thousands of comitte meetings worth squilions
>every year and takes no notice of anything and goes out on a limb all
>the time, no wonder the country is in such a mess.
>
>I've been a ALP voter, voted Libs when Howard came along foir the
>first few times but switched to Rudd like everyone else. My biggest
>mistake. Lesson leant. As many others are saying from traditional ALP
>voters.
>
>I know friends that work for the Greens and they are not happy that
>the Greens are backing Rudd. Greens not thought this through at all.
>Still they won't matter now, Libs can block it with those two IND's
>and my greatest wish would be they block supply and force an early
>election before its to late.
>

The worrying thing is Abbott as Lib leader also has the same tendancy
to announce policy without thinking it through ... he still needs to
cure himself of that 'Rudd Syndrome' if he's to be considered a
serious alternative.

With Rudd's popularity numbers since becoming Labor leader, it's
almost impossible to imagine he could mess up so badly as to lose the
next election ... but he's certainly seems intent on making it a close
contest ;-)

To be fair, the recent drop in the polls is probably backlash by those
who support the ETS ... but in reality, they still won't vote
Coalition, so I don't think it's as bad for Labor as those numbers
make out.

On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:37:14 GMT, "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote:

>
>"nospamplease" <nospamplease@mo.com> wrote in message 
>news:4be143da.5143602@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Libs to block the super tax, market slide halted after news breaks
>> about this.
>>
>> On 10 news in Perth tonight a ALP young couple who have always voted
>> ALP said they lost $100,000+ due to Rudds super tax announcement and
>> would never vote ALP again.
>
>
>So how much have they got invested to lose $100.000?
>Sounds like your typical struggling young Australian Family.
>I wonder if they did complain when pensioners got slugged with a 10% GST.
>

Why would they ... pensioners were compensated ... so in fact there
was no 'slug'.

>
>And the Lord said to Moses:
>"Blessed are the greedy for they shall inherit the Millionairs Heaven"
>
>
>
>>
>> Meanwhile another 25 miners met the PM and all have said they'll halt
>> projects worth over $40b.
>>
>> I can see another backflip coming from the PM.
>> The recent ones have been the ETS, bats, boat people and coming soon
>> the biggest flip of them all the super tax.
>>
>> Just shows the Rudd government doesn't think before they act on
>> anything.
>>
>> How to destroy Australia in one easy step. Someone is making money out
>> of all this. If you look back to before any news of a super tax
>> millions of shares were being sold left right and centre.
>>
>> Time the accc looked into all this.
>>
>> Really needs a royal commision into the Rudd stuff ups.
>> Considering Rudd has thousands of comitte meetings worth squilions
>> every year and takes no notice of anything and goes out on a limb all
>> the time, no wonder the country is in such a mess.
>>
>> I've been a ALP voter, voted Libs when Howard came along foir the
>> first few times but switched to Rudd like everyone else. My biggest
>> mistake. Lesson leant. As many others are saying from traditional ALP
>> voters.
>>
>> I know friends that work for the Greens and they are not happy that
>> the Greens are backing Rudd. Greens not thought this through at all.
>> Still they won't matter now, Libs can block it with those two IND's
>> and my greatest wish would be they block supply and force an early
>> election before its to late.
>>
>> 

On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:20:32 GMT, nospamplease@mo.com (nospamplease)
wrote:

>I know friends that work for the Greens and they are not happy that
>the Greens are backing Rudd. Greens not thought this through at all.
>Still they won't matter now, Libs can block it with those two IND's
>and my greatest wish would be they block supply and force an early
>election before its to late.
>
Greens will always back a como likr the Peking commo KRudd

petzl 
-- 
Australia has had enough. NO MORE MOSLEMS 
<http://www.cdp.org.au/docs/A5_Musilm_Poll_Flyer.pdf> 
Vote 
Christian Democrat first, 
The Opposition Member second 
Your sitting member last 
2nd last the anti-environment party the "Greens" 

On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:37:14 GMT, "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote:

>So how much have they got invested to lose $100.000?
>Sounds like your typical struggling young Australian Family.

Yep losing their home and job


petzl 
-- 
Australia has had enough. NO MORE MOSLEMS 
<http://www.cdp.org.au/docs/A5_Musilm_Poll_Flyer.pdf> 
Vote 
Christian Democrat first, 
The Opposition Member second 
Your sitting member last 
2nd last the anti-environment party the "Greens" 

"ralph" <rsteadman@geocities.com> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:37:14 GMT, "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"nospamplease" <nospamplease@mo.com> wrote in message
>>news:4be143da.5143602@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> Libs to block the super tax, market slide halted after news breaks
>>> about this.
>>>
>>> On 10 news in Perth tonight a ALP young couple who have always voted
>>> ALP said they lost $100,000+ due to Rudds super tax announcement and
>>> would never vote ALP again.
>>
>>
>>So how much have they got invested to lose $100.000?
>>Sounds like your typical struggling young Australian Family.
>>I wonder if they did complain when pensioners got slugged with a 10% GST.
>>
>
> Why would they ... pensioners were compensated ... so in fact there
> was no 'slug'.

No they weren't
Pensioners use services a lot more than others.


>
>>
>>And the Lord said to Moses:
>>"Blessed are the greedy for they shall inherit the Millionairs Heaven"
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Meanwhile another 25 miners met the PM and all have said they'll halt
>>> projects worth over $40b.
>>>
>>> I can see another backflip coming from the PM.
>>> The recent ones have been the ETS, bats, boat people and coming soon
>>> the biggest flip of them all the super tax.
>>>
>>> Just shows the Rudd government doesn't think before they act on
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> How to destroy Australia in one easy step. Someone is making money out
>>> of all this. If you look back to before any news of a super tax
>>> millions of shares were being sold left right and centre.
>>>
>>> Time the accc looked into all this.
>>>
>>> Really needs a royal commision into the Rudd stuff ups.
>>> Considering Rudd has thousands of comitte meetings worth squilions
>>> every year and takes no notice of anything and goes out on a limb all
>>> the time, no wonder the country is in such a mess.
>>>
>>> I've been a ALP voter, voted Libs when Howard came along foir the
>>> first few times but switched to Rudd like everyone else. My biggest
>>> mistake. Lesson leant. As many others are saying from traditional ALP
>>> voters.
>>>
>>> I know friends that work for the Greens and they are not happy that
>>> the Greens are backing Rudd. Greens not thought this through at all.
>>> Still they won't matter now, Libs can block it with those two IND's
>>> and my greatest wish would be they block supply and force an early
>>> election before its to late.
>>>
>>> 

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:20:32 GMT, nospamplease@mo.com (nospamplease)
> wrote:
>
>>I know friends that work for the Greens and they are not happy that
>>the Greens are backing Rudd. Greens not thought this through at all.
>>Still they won't matter now, Libs can block it with those two IND's
>>and my greatest wish would be they block supply and force an early
>>election before its to late.
>>
> Greens will always back a como likr the Peking commo KRudd


You confess to be a Christian?
Jesus was a Socialist.


>
> petzl
> -- 
> Australia has had enough. NO MORE MOSLEMS
> <http://www.cdp.org.au/docs/A5_Musilm_Poll_Flyer.pdf>
> Vote
> Christian Democrat first,
> The Opposition Member second
> Your sitting member last
> 2nd last the anti-environment party the "Greens"
>
> 

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:37:14 GMT, "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>>So how much have they got invested to lose $100.000?
>>Sounds like your typical struggling young Australian Family.
>
> Yep losing their home and job
>
>
> petzl

If they have lost $100.000 plus because the shares have come down, they must 
have invested millons.

On Wed, 05 May 2010 12:43:52 GMT, "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote:

>
>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:v5p2u5186hpq0rednl7absk0s2s9l9u8u6@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:37:14 GMT, "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>>>So how much have they got invested to lose $100.000?
>>>Sounds like your typical struggling young Australian Family.
>>
>> Yep losing their home and job
>>
>>
>> petzl
>
>If they have lost $100.000 plus because the shares have come down, they must 
>have invested millons.
>
Aside from this "Superprofit tax" (which no one knows what determines
what this is?) which starts knocking over other dominoes, like
superannuation investment, Jobs mines are now closing, there has also
been a fast interest rate hike and still climbing.
This "Superprofit tax" just sets up the sale of Australian mines to
China by our Peking Commo Prime Minister (or you think I'm wrong)

petzl 
-- 
Australia has had enough. NO MORE MOSLEMS 
<http://www.cdp.org.au/docs/A5_Musilm_Poll_Flyer.pdf> 
Vote 
Christian Democrat first, 
The Opposition Member second 
Your sitting member last 
2nd last the anti-environment party the "Greens" 

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 05 May 2010 12:43:52 GMT, "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:v5p2u5186hpq0rednl7absk0s2s9l9u8u6@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:37:14 GMT, "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>So how much have they got invested to lose $100.000?
>>>>Sounds like your typical struggling young Australian Family.
>>>
>>> Yep losing their home and job
>>>
>>>
>>> petzl
>>
>>If they have lost $100.000 plus because the shares have come down, they 
>>must
>>have invested millons.
>>
> Aside from this "Superprofit tax" (which no one knows what determines
> what this is?) which starts knocking over other dominoes, like
> superannuation investment, Jobs mines are now closing, there has also
> been a fast interest rate hike and still climbing.

Interest rates have nothing to do with it.
Mines will not close exept maybe one or two who will be taken over by 
others. Mines shares are already going up again.
The simple fact is that mining companies scream blue murder and make all 
kinds of threads. It is still a profitable business and will continue. Of 
course, Mining companies have promised Abbott a lot of money for the 
election campaign. He is in the pockets of the super rich.


> This "Superprofit tax" just sets up the sale of Australian mines to
> China by our Peking Commo Prime Minister (or you think I'm wrong)
Of course you are wrong. Rudd is so far on the right he is not even a 
socialist.
As for the sale of Australian mines, why would the Chinese want to buy them 
if they are so bad that they don't make a profit? Can't you see the 
inconsistencies of all the silly talk?


>
> petzl
> -- 
> Australia has had enough. NO MORE MOSLEMS
> <http://www.cdp.org.au/docs/A5_Musilm_Poll_Flyer.pdf>
> Vote
> Christian Democrat first,
> The Opposition Member second
> Your sitting member last
> 2nd last the anti-environment party the "Greens"
>
> 

On Wed, 05 May 2010 13:19:21 GMT, "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote:

>>>>>So how much have they got invested to lose $100.000?
>>>>>Sounds like your typical struggling young Australian Family.
>>>>
>>>> Yep losing their home and job
>>>
>>>If they have lost $100.000 plus because the shares have come down, >>>they musthave invested millons.
>>>
>> Aside from this "Superprofit tax" (which no one knows what determines
>> what this is?) which starts knocking over other dominoes, like
>> superannuation investment, Jobs mines are now closing, there has also
>> been a fast interest rate hike and still climbing.
>
>Interest rates have nothing to do with it.

Not what http://goo.gl/6sBw say

>Mines will not close exept maybe one or two who will be taken over by 
>others. Mines shares are already going up again.
>The simple fact is that mining companies scream blue murder and make all 
>kinds of threads. It is still a profitable business and will continue. Of 
>course, Mining companies have promised Abbott a lot of money for the 
>election campaign. He is in the pockets of the super rich.
>
The collapse of their share price means investors don't agree

>> This "Superprofit tax" just sets up the sale of Australian mines to
>> China by our Peking Commo Prime Minister (or you think I'm wrong)
>Of course you are wrong. Rudd is so far on the right he is not even a 
>socialist.
>As for the sale of Australian mines, why would the Chinese want to buy them 
>if they are so bad that they don't make a profit? Can't you see the 
>inconsistencies of all the silly talk?
>
Not what the media report 
http://goo.gl/LkU5
(if a company is owned outside of Australia no tax is paid here)
Although prices have gone up so have costs to grow.
This now *proposed* tax is already coming unstuck and don't look like
geting through and will be another back flip 
http://goo.gl/Rwep
Petzl
--
"Until now the Whitlam government has 
been the gold standard for incompetence in Australia. We finally have a 
prime minister that has managed to out-Gough Gough."

"nospamplease" <nospamplease@mo.com> wrote in message 
news:4be143da.5143602@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Libs to block the super tax, market slide halted after news breaks
> about this.

Oh the market went down this morning what did Rudd do, has the Liberals 
magic stopped working?

Actually the drop has more to do with the European and American situation 
and the effect on the Dow and FTSE. Remember the leading mining stocks have 
been dropping in Aus for the last couple of weeks 

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 05 May 2010 13:19:21 GMT, "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>So how much have they got invested to lose $100.000?
>>>>>>Sounds like your typical struggling young Australian Family.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep losing their home and job
>>>>
>>>>If they have lost $100.000 plus because the shares have come down, 
>>>> >>>they musthave invested millons.
>>>>
>>> Aside from this "Superprofit tax" (which no one knows what determines
>>> what this is?) which starts knocking over other dominoes, like
>>> superannuation investment, Jobs mines are now closing, there has also
>>> been a fast interest rate hike and still climbing.
>>
>>Interest rates have nothing to do with it.
>
> Not what http://goo.gl/6sBw say
>
>>Mines will not close exept maybe one or two who will be taken over by
>>others. Mines shares are already going up again.
>>The simple fact is that mining companies scream blue murder and make all
>>kinds of threads. It is still a profitable business and will continue. Of
>>course, Mining companies have promised Abbott a lot of money for the
>>election campaign. He is in the pockets of the super rich.
>>
> The collapse of their share price means investors don't agree

The collapse. Ming stocks have been going down for a couple of weeks now 

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:20:32 GMT, nospamplease@mo.com (nospamplease)
> wrote:
>
>>I know friends that work for the Greens and they are not happy that
>>the Greens are backing Rudd. Greens not thought this through at all.
>>Still they won't matter now, Libs can block it with those two IND's
>>and my greatest wish would be they block supply and force an early
>>election before its to late.
>>
> Greens will always back a como likr the Peking commo KRudd

didn't on the ETS you moron 

On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:18:39 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:t1p2u5tvti2ohpgu7t6i4o18na8qdddrag@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:20:32 GMT, nospamplease@mo.com (nospamplease)
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I know friends that work for the Greens and they are not happy that
>>>the Greens are backing Rudd. Greens not thought this through at all.
>>>Still they won't matter now, Libs can block it with those two IND's
>>>and my greatest wish would be they block supply and force an early
>>>election before its to late.
>>>
>> Greens will always back a como like the Peking commo KRudd
>
>didn't on the ETS you moron 

The "Greens" always reject anything for the environment 
Rejecting the sale of Telstra and the billions it would of provided
for environment has result to the most harm done to the environment
EVER

petzl 
-- 
Australia has had enough. NO MORE MOSLEMS 
<http://www.cdp.org.au/docs/A5_Musilm_Poll_Flyer.pdf> 
Vote 
Christian Democrat first, 
The Opposition Member second 
Your sitting member last 
2nd last the anti-environment party the "Greens" 

On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:17:48 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:d1t2u51nvmuhd5p4gjp6s2euc31ngs4rsh@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 05 May 2010 13:19:21 GMT, "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>So how much have they got invested to lose $100.000?
>>>>>>>Sounds like your typical struggling young Australian Family.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep losing their home and job
>>>>>
>>>>>If they have lost $100.000 plus because the shares have come down, 
>>>>> >>>they musthave invested millons.
>>>>>
>>>> Aside from this "Superprofit tax" (which no one knows what determines
>>>> what this is?) which starts knocking over other dominoes, like
>>>> superannuation investment, Jobs mines are now closing, there has also
>>>> been a fast interest rate hike and still climbing.
>>>
>>>Interest rates have nothing to do with it.
>>
>> Not what http://goo.gl/6sBw say
>>
>>>Mines will not close exept maybe one or two who will be taken over by
>>>others. Mines shares are already going up again.
>>>The simple fact is that mining companies scream blue murder and make all
>>>kinds of threads. It is still a profitable business and will continue. Of
>>>course, Mining companies have promised Abbott a lot of money for the
>>>election campaign. He is in the pockets of the super rich.
>>>
>> The collapse of their share price means investors don't agree
>
>The collapse. Mining stocks have been going down for a 
>couple of weeks now 

Thats bullshit 
http://tinyurl.com/XAO-ALL-ORDS-GRAPH
or you think graphs lie?
Petzl
--
"Until now the Whitlam government has 
been the gold standard for incompetence in Australia. We finally have a 
prime minister that has managed to out-Gough Gough."

On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:16:04 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Oh the market went down this morning what did Rudd do, has the Liberals 
>magic stopped working?
>
>Actually the drop has more to do with the European and American situation 
>and the effect on the Dow and FTSE. Remember the leading mining stocks have 
>been dropping in Aus for the last couple of weeks 

The collapse has has happened because of our Peking Commo KRudd adding
to a perfect storm. KRudds marxist "SUPERPROFIT TAX" has triggered the
collapse of Australia's economy
http://tinyurl.com/XAO-ALL-ORDS-GRAPH
Before this our economy was heading for blue sky (up and up)
Petzl
--
"Until now the Whitlam government has 
been the gold standard for incompetence in Australia. We finally have a 
prime minister that has managed to out-Gough Gough."

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:17:48 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:d1t2u51nvmuhd5p4gjp6s2euc31ngs4rsh@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 05 May 2010 13:19:21 GMT, "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>So how much have they got invested to lose $100.000?
>>>>>>>>Sounds like your typical struggling young Australian Family.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep losing their home and job
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If they have lost $100.000 plus because the shares have come down,
>>>>>> >>>they musthave invested millons.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Aside from this "Superprofit tax" (which no one knows what determines
>>>>> what this is?) which starts knocking over other dominoes, like
>>>>> superannuation investment, Jobs mines are now closing, there has also
>>>>> been a fast interest rate hike and still climbing.
>>>>
>>>>Interest rates have nothing to do with it.
>>>
>>> Not what http://goo.gl/6sBw say
>>>
>>>>Mines will not close exept maybe one or two who will be taken over by
>>>>others. Mines shares are already going up again.
>>>>The simple fact is that mining companies scream blue murder and make all
>>>>kinds of threads. It is still a profitable business and will continue. 
>>>>Of
>>>>course, Mining companies have promised Abbott a lot of money for the
>>>>election campaign. He is in the pockets of the super rich.
>>>>
>>> The collapse of their share price means investors don't agree
>>
>>The collapse. Mining stocks have been going down for a
>>couple of weeks now
>
> Thats bullshit
> http://tinyurl.com/XAO-ALL-ORDS-GRAPH
> or you think graphs lie?

Have 1) looked a the x axis on your chart and 2) if this is an all 
ordinaries chart, you do know what the all ordinaries are don't you.

Try having a look at the  S&P/ASX 300 METALS AND MINING (INDUSTRY) index

http://tinyurl.com/2e8qyxt

as you can see it has been falling for a couple of weeks 

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:18:39 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:t1p2u5tvti2ohpgu7t6i4o18na8qdddrag@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:20:32 GMT, nospamplease@mo.com (nospamplease)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I know friends that work for the Greens and they are not happy that
>>>>the Greens are backing Rudd. Greens not thought this through at all.
>>>>Still they won't matter now, Libs can block it with those two IND's
>>>>and my greatest wish would be they block supply and force an early
>>>>election before its to late.
>>>>
>>> Greens will always back a como like the Peking commo KRudd
>>
>>didn't on the ETS you moron
>
> The "Greens" always reject anything for the environment
> Rejecting the sale of Telstra and the billions it would of provided
> for environment has result to the most harm done to the environment
> EVER

so you were wrong with your comment "Greens will always back a como like the 
Peking commo KRudd". Moron 

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:16:04 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Oh the market went down this morning what did Rudd do, has the Liberals
>>magic stopped working?
>>
>>Actually the drop has more to do with the European and American situation
>>and the effect on the Dow and FTSE. Remember the leading mining stocks 
>>have
>>been dropping in Aus for the last couple of weeks
>
> The collapse has has happened because of our Peking Commo KRudd adding
> to a perfect storm. KRudds marxist "SUPERPROFIT TAX" has triggered the
> collapse of Australia's economy
> http://tinyurl.com/XAO-ALL-ORDS-GRAPH
> Before this our economy was heading for blue sky (up and up)

Get your facts right and know what you are talking about 
http://tinyurl.com/2e8qyxt

ralph wrote:
> On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:20:32 GMT, nospamplease@mo.com (nospamplease)
> wrote:
>
>> Libs to block the super tax, market slide halted after news breaks
>> about this.
>>
>> On 10 news in Perth tonight a ALP young couple who have always voted
>> ALP said they lost $100,000+ due to Rudds super tax announcement and
>> would never vote ALP again.
>>
>> Meanwhile another 25 miners met the PM and all have said they'll halt
>> projects worth over $40b.
>>
>> I can see another backflip coming from the PM.
>> The recent ones have been the ETS, bats, boat people and coming soon
>> the biggest flip of them all the super tax.
>>
>> Just shows the Rudd government doesn't think before they act on
>> anything.
>>
>> How to destroy Australia in one easy step. Someone is making money out
>> of all this. If you look back to before any news of a super tax
>> millions of shares were being sold left right and centre.
>>
>> Time the accc looked into all this.
>>
>> Really needs a royal commision into the Rudd stuff ups.
>> Considering Rudd has thousands of comitte meetings worth squilions
>> every year and takes no notice of anything and goes out on a limb all
>> the time, no wonder the country is in such a mess.
>>
>> I've been a ALP voter, voted Libs when Howard came along foir the
>> first few times but switched to Rudd like everyone else. My biggest
>> mistake. Lesson leant. As many others are saying from traditional ALP
>> voters.
>>
>> I know friends that work for the Greens and they are not happy that
>> the Greens are backing Rudd. Greens not thought this through at all.
>> Still they won't matter now, Libs can block it with those two IND's
>> and my greatest wish would be they block supply and force an early
>> election before its to late.
>
> The worrying thing is Abbott as Lib leader also has the same tendancy
> to announce policy without thinking it through ... he still needs to
> cure himself of that 'Rudd Syndrome' if he's to be considered a
> serious alternative.

Yes, Abbott needs to consult more with his colleagues.

> With Rudd's popularity numbers since becoming Labor leader, it's
> almost impossible to imagine he could mess up so badly as to lose the
> next election ... but he's certainly seems intent on making it a close
> contest ;-)

If the latest poll is any indication, KRudd is severely on the nose.

> To be fair, the recent drop in the polls is probably backlash by those
> who support the ETS ... but in reality, they still won't vote
> Coalition, so I don't think it's as bad for Labor as those numbers
> make out.

If that's true, Malcolm Turnbull's return should keep the Coalition's numbers 
climbing.

-- 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
  - KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
  - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
  - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
  - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke 
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
  - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
  - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor 
general!"
  - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his 
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
  - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
  - KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
  - Garrett the carrott

On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:53:34 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>> http://tinyurl.com/XAO-ALL-ORDS-GRAPH
>> or you think graphs lie?
>
>Have 1) looked a the x axis on your chart and 2) if this is an all 
>ordinaries chart, you do know what the all ordinaries are don't you.
>
>Try having a look at the  S&P/ASX 300 METALS AND MINING (INDUSTRY) index
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2e8qyxt

It's the same story
http://tinyurl.com/XMM-MTLS-INDEX
The crash dive starts with KRudds infamous
"SUPERPROFIT TAX"
Petzl
--
"Until now the Whitlam government has 
been the gold standard for incompetence in Australia. We finally have a 
prime minister that has managed to out-Gough Gough."

On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:58:18 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:gl34u59p3caqtet4ps3o2ibmuut53813mc@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:16:04 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Oh the market went down this morning what did Rudd do, has the Liberals
>>>magic stopped working?
>>>
>>>Actually the drop has more to do with the European and American situation
>>>and the effect on the Dow and FTSE. Remember the leading mining stocks 
>>>have
>>>been dropping in Aus for the last couple of weeks
>>
>> The collapse has has happened because of our Peking Commo KRudd adding
>> to a perfect storm. KRudds marxist "SUPERPROFIT TAX" has triggered the
>> collapse of Australia's economy
>> http://tinyurl.com/XAO-ALL-ORDS-GRAPH
>> Before this our economy was heading for blue sky (up and up)
>
>Get your facts right and know what you are talking about 
>http://tinyurl.com/2e8qyxt
No difference this ship is going down FAST
http://tinyurl.com/XMM-MTLS-INDEX
Petzl
--
Question - When you apply for Welfare in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Somalia, Sri-Lanka, or India, what does that Government give you? 
Answer - A map of Australia
http://tinyurl.com/BOARDING-SS-RUDD-THE-DUDD

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:ov44u5l0qk7mjv71nj96jacent2p7mjk4h@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:53:34 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/XAO-ALL-ORDS-GRAPH
>>> or you think graphs lie?
>>
>>Have 1) looked a the x axis on your chart and 2) if this is an all
>>ordinaries chart, you do know what the all ordinaries are don't you.
>>
>>Try having a look at the  S&P/ASX 300 METALS AND MINING (INDUSTRY) index
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/2e8qyxt
>
> It's the same story
> http://tinyurl.com/XMM-MTLS-INDEX
> The crash dive starts with KRudds infamous
> "SUPERPROFIT TAX"

Actually it didn't. Have a look at the x-axis and figure out when the drop 
started, you'll find it start the first or second week of April.

Hint if you are going to post charts don't use ones that destroy your 
arguments 

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:pe54u5devuipucqonuo3dqmdtdpsrqvmkr@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:58:18 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:gl34u59p3caqtet4ps3o2ibmuut53813mc@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 6 May 2010 10:16:04 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Oh the market went down this morning what did Rudd do, has the Liberals
>>>>magic stopped working?
>>>>
>>>>Actually the drop has more to do with the European and American 
>>>>situation
>>>>and the effect on the Dow and FTSE. Remember the leading mining stocks
>>>>have
>>>>been dropping in Aus for the last couple of weeks
>>>
>>> The collapse has has happened because of our Peking Commo KRudd adding
>>> to a perfect storm. KRudds marxist "SUPERPROFIT TAX" has triggered the
>>> collapse of Australia's economy
>>> http://tinyurl.com/XAO-ALL-ORDS-GRAPH
>>> Before this our economy was heading for blue sky (up and up)
>>
>>Get your facts right and know what you are talking about
>>http://tinyurl.com/2e8qyxt


> No difference this ship is going down FAST
> http://tinyurl.com/XMM-MTLS-INDEX
> Petzl
> --
> Question - When you apply for Welfare in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Vietnam, 
> Somalia, Sri-Lanka, or India, what does that Government give you?
> Answer - A map of Australia
> http://tinyurl.com/BOARDING-SS-RUDD-THE-DUDD

So you have lost this discussion and are changing the subject. If you 
actually knew what you are talking about when you post you wouldn't appear 
to be such a moron ......... maybe 

nospamplease wrote:
> Libs to block the super tax, market slide halted after news breaks
> about this.
>
> On 10 news in Perth tonight a ALP young couple who have always voted
> ALP said they lost $100,000+ due to Rudds super tax announcement and
> would never vote ALP again.

I'm surprised they didn't mention their mortgage. With rates constantly going 
up, that's really pissing a lot of people off.

> Meanwhile another 25 miners met the PM and all have said they'll halt
> projects worth over $40b.

LOL! I wonder what KRudd would have said to them.

> I can see another backflip coming from the PM.

He's done so many, he'd be a professional acrobat by now.

> The recent ones have been the ETS, bats, boat people and coming soon
> the biggest flip of them all the super tax.

LOL! Talk about egg on his face.

> Just shows the Rudd government doesn't think before they act on
> anything.
>
> How to destroy Australia in one easy step. Someone is making money out
> of all this. If you look back to before any news of a super tax
> millions of shares were being sold left right and centre.
>
> Time the accc looked into all this.
>
> Really needs a royal commision into the Rudd stuff ups.

An election would be better.

> Considering Rudd has thousands of comitte meetings worth squilions
> every year and takes no notice of anything and goes out on a limb all
> the time, no wonder the country is in such a mess.
>
> I've been a ALP voter, voted Libs when Howard came along foir the
> first few times but switched to Rudd like everyone else. My biggest
> mistake. Lesson leant. As many others are saying from traditional ALP
> voters.

Remember the old mantra. Never vote labour!

> I know friends that work for the Greens and they are not happy that
> the Greens are backing Rudd. Greens not thought this through at all.
> Still they won't matter now, Libs can block it with those two IND's
> and my greatest wish would be they block supply and force an early
> election before its to late.

So KRudd will end up with more egg on his face than Shitlam! LOL!

-- 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
  - KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
  - Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
  - Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
  - Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke 
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
  - Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
  - Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor 
general!"
  - Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his 
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
  - FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
  - KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
  - Garrett the carrott

On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:13:23 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>> collapse of Australia's economy
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/XAO-ALL-ORDS-GRAPH
>>>> Before this our economy was heading for blue sky (up and up)
>>>
>>>Get your facts right and know what you are talking about
>>>http://tinyurl.com/2e8qyxt
>
>
>> No difference this ship is going down FAST
>> http://tinyurl.com/XMM-MTLS-INDEX
>
>So you have lost this discussion and are changing the subject. If you 
>actually knew what you are talking about when you post you wouldn't  
>appear to be such a moron ......... maybe 

Last April I put all my super into a long term deposit 
http://www.raboplus.com.au/savings/term_deposits/calculator.aspx
knew something bad (KRudd) was about
Remember telling "adsf" that KRudd was about to destroy superannuation
early this month 2nd to consider getting out QUICK
Petzl
--
"Until now the Whitlam government has 
been the gold standard for incompetence in Australia. We finally have a 
prime minister that has managed to out-Gough Gough."

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:cj64u5to0odink4lvqh64tb6jr9guqi9bp@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:13:23 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> collapse of Australia's economy
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/XAO-ALL-ORDS-GRAPH
>>>>> Before this our economy was heading for blue sky (up and up)
>>>>
>>>>Get your facts right and know what you are talking about
>>>>http://tinyurl.com/2e8qyxt
>>
>>
>>> No difference this ship is going down FAST
>>> http://tinyurl.com/XMM-MTLS-INDEX
>>
>>So you have lost this discussion and are changing the subject. If you
>>actually knew what you are talking about when you post you wouldn't
>>appear to be such a moron ......... maybe
>
> Last April I put all my super into a long term deposit
> http://www.raboplus.com.au/savings/term_deposits/calculator.aspx
> knew something bad (KRudd) was about
> Remember telling "adsf" that KRudd was about to destroy superannuation
> early this month 2nd to consider getting out QUICK

Good on you, I've been having fun and making a profit in the market. Well 
you'll be happy with the interest rise at least.

btw who does Maccas use for their super? 

On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:48:58 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>> Last April I put all my super into a long term deposit
>> http://www.raboplus.com.au/savings/term_deposits/calculator.aspx
>> knew something bad (KRudd) was about
>> Remember telling "adsf" that KRudd was about to destroy superannuation
>> early this month 2nd to consider getting out QUICK
>
>Good on you, I've been having fun and making a profit in the market. Well 
>you'll be happy with the interest rise at least.

Banks are charge more for interest but not raising it for deposits

I do very well out of sharemarket (but don't invest in a falling
knife) I also got out in 07 and back in in March 09 out in April 10

>btw who does Maccas use for their super? 

All McDonalds are Franchises I guess that is up to the individual
Franchise? However an employer is not obliged to pay the Super
GuaranteeLevy where an employee earns less than $450 per month or if
they are under 18
Petzl
--
"Until now the Whitlam government has 
been the gold standard for incompetence in Australia. We finally have a 
prime minister that has managed to out-Gough Gough."

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:9cb4u5597jor06l3avt1r5msj0ro3a0dhc@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:48:58 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Last April I put all my super into a long term deposit
>>> http://www.raboplus.com.au/savings/term_deposits/calculator.aspx
>>> knew something bad (KRudd) was about
>>> Remember telling "adsf" that KRudd was about to destroy superannuation
>>> early this month 2nd to consider getting out QUICK
>>
>>Good on you, I've been having fun and making a profit in the market. Well
>>you'll be happy with the interest rise at least.
>
> Banks are charge more for interest but not raising it for deposits

Lot better ways to invest you in the money market than a long term deposit

>
> I do very well out of sharemarket (but don't invest in a falling
> knife) I also got out in 07 and back in in March 09 out in April 10

Amazing when you can't even read a chart

>
>>btw who does Maccas use for their super?
>
> All McDonalds are Franchises I guess that is up to the individual
> Franchise? However an employer is not obliged to pay the Super
> GuaranteeLevy where an employee earns less than $450 per month or if
> they are under 18

bad luck 

On Thu, 6 May 2010 13:16:45 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:9cb4u5597jor06l3avt1r5msj0ro3a0dhc@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:48:58 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Last April I put all my super into a long term deposit
>>>> http://www.raboplus.com.au/savings/term_deposits/calculator.aspx
>>>> knew something bad (KRudd) was about
>>>> Remember telling "adsf" that KRudd was about to destroy superannuation
>>>> early this month 2nd to consider getting out QUICK
>>>
>>>Good on you, I've been having fun and making a profit in the market. Well
>>>you'll be happy with the interest rise at least.
>>
>> Banks are charge more for interest but not raising it for deposits
>
>Lot better ways to invest you in the money market than a long term deposit
>
For super and GAURANTEED?

>> I do very well out of sharemarket (but don't invest in a falling
>> knife) I also got out in 07 and back in in March 09 out in April 10
>
>Amazing when you can't even read a chart
>
So you think it's only luck on my part?


>>>btw who does Maccas use for their super?
>>
>> All McDonalds are Franchises I guess that is up to the individual
>> Franchise? However an employer is not obliged to pay the Super
>> GuaranteeLevy where an employee earns less than $450 per month or if
>> they are under 18
>
>bad luck 

For whom? You?
Petzl
--
"Until now the Whitlam government has 
been the gold standard for incompetence in Australia. We finally have a 
prime minister that has managed to out-Gough Gough."

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:b6e4u5dav01f5v0tfati4lmf4dogf3ioa1@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 6 May 2010 13:16:45 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:9cb4u5597jor06l3avt1r5msj0ro3a0dhc@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:48:58 +1000, "dechucka" <vomit@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Last April I put all my super into a long term deposit
>>>>> http://www.raboplus.com.au/savings/term_deposits/calculator.aspx
>>>>> knew something bad (KRudd) was about
>>>>> Remember telling "adsf" that KRudd was about to destroy superannuation
>>>>> early this month 2nd to consider getting out QUICK
>>>>
>>>>Good on you, I've been having fun and making a profit in the market. 
>>>>Well
>>>>you'll be happy with the interest rise at least.
>>>
>>> Banks are charge more for interest but not raising it for deposits
>>
>>Lot better ways to invest you in the money market than a long term deposit
>>
> For super and GAURANTEED?

yes
>
>>> I do very well out of sharemarket (but don't invest in a falling
>>> knife) I also got out in 07 and back in in March 09 out in April 10
>>
>>Amazing when you can't even read a chart
>>
> So you think it's only luck on my part?

yes if you r telling the truth

>
>
>>>>btw who does Maccas use for their super?
>>>
>>> All McDonalds are Franchises I guess that is up to the individual
>>> Franchise? However an employer is not obliged to pay the Super
>>> GuaranteeLevy where an employee earns less than $450 per month or if
>>> they are under 18
>>
>>bad luck
>
> For whom? You?
u