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I doubt whether any of the devices were phsyically faulty.  It sounds
like device driver problems. You wouldn't have installed any
Adaptec/Roxio software by any chance (ie EasyCD Creator, DirectCD )?
These utilities and their drivers cause a lot of trouble.

Unfortunately, one of the issues with the Adaptec  stuff, is that when
you uninstall their software, the drivers are sometimes not properly
uninstalled.  As an eye opener, visit the alt.comp.periphs.cdr
newsgroup - there are a lot of very pissed off Adaptec users out
there.

If you can manage to completey uninstall the bundled software that was
provided with the drives, try downloading Nero Burning Rom from
www.ahead.de.

Eddie

On Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:21:57 +1100, "Simon Mead"
<TheMeades@bigpond.com> wrote:

>I wonder if anyone can offer any advice.
>I purchased a Sony CD Writer, attached it to my pc and found it was faulty.
>Basically the data coming from it was corrupted.
>I got a replacement unit - same model - also faulty, it 'hung' my system and
>Win98 wouldn't load.
>I returned it and got a Ricoh this time.
>I fitted it to my computer. It was recognised at boot up. Device Manager
>knew the unit was there. I inserted a CD in my other CD Rom drive, it
>powered up and read the disc. I inserted the CD in the Ricoh, it wouldn't
>power up (spin) and wouldn't read the disk.
>This time I got my money back, although I actually wanted a working CD
>Writer.
>The computer shop would not give me a replacement as "your machine is
>destroying CD Writers and I can't risk another one".
>
>My feelings are that I was unlucky with the first 2. The third might not
>have been as straightforward as it appears, there's a possibility that it
>was not a new model.
>
>My question is, is it possible that my PC could be destroying CD writers? If
>so, Should it also be destroying CD ROM drives too?
>
>Simon
>
>

I am never going to get my work done today . . .

I am delighted with my HP-RW (i thought it came with the adeptec).

Make your CD-ROM the "master" (it probably already is set for "master",
however mine wasnot, so i had to take everything out and do it all over
again, and without a screwdriver at that), and the RW the "slave" (if the RW
is second on the cable).

Place your RW softwear in the CD-ROM, and do exactly as it sez. After
completion of installation, of course remove software and carefully place
back in holder.

Place one of your old/tried/and true, regular music CD's in your CD-ROM;
then place a new, blank CD-R in your newly installed CD-RW; wait and when a
message comes up asking you what kind of "burn" you want; click music; then
do exactly as it sez (nothing fancy though). Eventually you will want to
click "for any CD drive"; this step should come after the first selection,
where you selected the "music" burn); such as in your car.

In other words: you will need to click the kind of disk to burn; then the
kind of "drive" you want (you want the one that will let you play it in your
car etc.). When burn is completed (a pop-up should tell you); now remove
everything, and now proudly place newly burned disk into the CD-ROM; maybe
it will begin to play immediately, if not do what ever it is you always do
to get your CD-ROM running; then try the disk in your car.

The reason i am telling you to do this is because it is the easy one to do
(the others are very difficult to learn). Once you know everything is
working properly, and you have practiced; carefully venture to a "copy".
Always remember to use a CD-R disk before you jump to the CD-RW disk, until
you get the hang of things (do your baby steps first, and in no time at all
you will be galloping down that hill at break-neck speed).

The CD-R disks, upon which you practice, can be thrown away; they are cheap.
The CD-RW disks are over twice the price (these are the ones you use as a
huge "floppy", and there are two different ways of burning and selecting the
drives' usage, and one is more sophisticated than the other, and i doubt if
you will ever need that one). i feel sure the music and copy (done on a
CD-R, and the floppy (done on a CD-RW) are the ones you need to learn.

You are right, life is meaningless without the RW, man cannot live by CD-ROM
alone; but by the CD-RW.

E-mail me at babydance@lycosmail.com if you need any help.
--
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--
"Simon Mead" <TheMeades@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:Tu%p6.11125$v5.48321@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
> I wonder if anyone can offer any advice.
> I purchased a Sony CD Writer, attached it to my pc and found it was
faulty.
> Basically the data coming from it was corrupted.
> I got a replacement unit - same model - also faulty, it 'hung' my system
and
> Win98 wouldn't load.
> I returned it and got a Ricoh this time.
> I fitted it to my computer. It was recognised at boot up. Device Manager
> knew the unit was there. I inserted a CD in my other CD Rom drive, it
> powered up and read the disc. I inserted the CD in the Ricoh, it wouldn't
> power up (spin) and wouldn't read the disk.
> This time I got my money back, although I actually wanted a working CD
> Writer.
> The computer shop would not give me a replacement as "your machine is
> destroying CD Writers and I can't risk another one".
>
> My feelings are that I was unlucky with the first 2. The third might not
> have been as straightforward as it appears, there's a possibility that it
> was not a new model.
>
> My question is, is it possible that my PC could be destroying CD writers?
If
> so, Should it also be destroying CD ROM drives too?
>
> Simon
>
>

Simon Mead <TheMeades@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:Tu%p6.11125$v5.48321@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...

> I wonder if anyone can offer any advice.
> I purchased a Sony CD Writer, attached it to my pc and found it was faulty.
> Basically the data coming from it was corrupted.
> I got a replacement unit - same model - also faulty,
> it 'hung' my system and Win98 wouldn't load.
> I returned it and got a Ricoh this time.
> I fitted it to my computer. It was recognised at boot up. Device Manager
> knew the unit was there. I inserted a CD in my other CD Rom drive, it
> powered up and read the disc. I inserted the CD in the Ricoh, it wouldn't
> power up (spin) and wouldn't read the disk.

> This time I got my money back, although
> I actually wanted a working CD Writer.

> The computer shop would not give me a replacement as "your
> machine is destroying CD Writers and I can't risk another one".

> My feelings are that I was unlucky with the first 2.

While its possible to have 3 dud drives in a row, its very unlikely
unless the mob flogging them is being stupid about repeatedly
flogging drives that are returned because they dont work.

> The third might not have been as straightforward as it
> appears, there's a possibility that it was not a new model.

Guess it could be one hell of a shonky operation you were dealing with.

> My question is, is it possible that my PC could be destroying CD writers?

Its certainly theoretically possible, but very very unlikely.

Easy enough to test that theory, get yet another burner,
this time from someone else. Install it in a different PC and
check its working. Install it in your PC and see it fail to work.
Put it back in the first PC and see it not work anymore.

> If so, Should it also be destroying CD ROM drives too?

Not necessarily.

Its much more likely that the operation you were dealing with is a packa shonks.

Just get another drive from somewhere else. If it doesnt
work either, there is very likely some basic problem with
the PC but its unlikely to be actually killing the burners.

It is not advisable to have both the CD and the CDRW on the same IDE cable
ie: one the slave of the other, this is known to cause problems. You are
trying to get the data down the same cable that you are trying to send it
up. Buffer under run come on down!
Slave the CD to the hard drive and put the CDRW on the other IDE as master
if this IDE is free. If it is not then slave it to whatever is on that
connection.
vxquizit1

"Paminifarm CyberArt" <kikki@aug.com> wrote in message
news:tai6u97v98fmae@corp.supernews.com...
> I am never going to get my work done today . . .
>
> I am delighted with my HP-RW (i thought it came with the adeptec).
>
> Make your CD-ROM the "master" (it probably already is set for "master",
> however mine wasnot, so i had to take everything out and do it all over
> again, and without a screwdriver at that), and the RW the "slave" (if the
RW
> is second on the cable).
>
> Place your RW softwear in the CD-ROM, and do exactly as it sez. After
> completion of installation, of course remove software and carefully place
> back in holder.
>
> Place one of your old/tried/and true, regular music CD's in your CD-ROM;
> then place a new, blank CD-R in your newly installed CD-RW; wait and when
a
> message comes up asking you what kind of "burn" you want; click music;
then
> do exactly as it sez (nothing fancy though). Eventually you will want to
> click "for any CD drive"; this step should come after the first selection,
> where you selected the "music" burn); such as in your car.
>
> In other words: you will need to click the kind of disk to burn; then the
> kind of "drive" you want (you want the one that will let you play it in
your
> car etc.). When burn is completed (a pop-up should tell you); now remove
> everything, and now proudly place newly burned disk into the CD-ROM; maybe
> it will begin to play immediately, if not do what ever it is you always do
> to get your CD-ROM running; then try the disk in your car.
>
> The reason i am telling you to do this is because it is the easy one to do
> (the others are very difficult to learn). Once you know everything is
> working properly, and you have practiced; carefully venture to a "copy".
> Always remember to use a CD-R disk before you jump to the CD-RW disk,
until
> you get the hang of things (do your baby steps first, and in no time at
all
> you will be galloping down that hill at break-neck speed).
>
> The CD-R disks, upon which you practice, can be thrown away; they are
cheap.
> The CD-RW disks are over twice the price (these are the ones you use as a
> huge "floppy", and there are two different ways of burning and selecting
the
> drives' usage, and one is more sophisticated than the other, and i doubt
if
> you will ever need that one). i feel sure the music and copy (done on a
> CD-R, and the floppy (done on a CD-RW) are the ones you need to learn.
>
> You are right, life is meaningless without the RW, man cannot live by
CD-ROM
> alone; but by the CD-RW.
>
> E-mail me at babydance@lycosmail.com if you need any help.
> --
> http://lillyrouge.tripod.com/greenet.html
> --
> "Simon Mead" <TheMeades@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:Tu%p6.11125$v5.48321@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
> > I wonder if anyone can offer any advice.
> > I purchased a Sony CD Writer, attached it to my pc and found it was
> faulty.
> > Basically the data coming from it was corrupted.
> > I got a replacement unit - same model - also faulty, it 'hung' my system
> and
> > Win98 wouldn't load.
> > I returned it and got a Ricoh this time.
> > I fitted it to my computer. It was recognised at boot up. Device Manager
> > knew the unit was there. I inserted a CD in my other CD Rom drive, it
> > powered up and read the disc. I inserted the CD in the Ricoh, it
wouldn't
> > power up (spin) and wouldn't read the disk.
> > This time I got my money back, although I actually wanted a working CD
> > Writer.
> > The computer shop would not give me a replacement as "your machine is
> > destroying CD Writers and I can't risk another one".
> >
> > My feelings are that I was unlucky with the first 2. The third might not
> > have been as straightforward as it appears, there's a possibility that
it
> > was not a new model.
> >
> > My question is, is it possible that my PC could be destroying CD
writers?
> If
> > so, Should it also be destroying CD ROM drives too?
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
>
>

vxquizit1 <dwinter@ruralnet.net.au> wrote in message
news:kYlq6.1$qK2.628@vic.nntp.telstra.net...

> It is not advisable to have both the CD and the CDRW on the same IDE
> cable ie: one the slave of the other, this is known to cause problems.

Bullshit, it works fine with a properly setup
system, even with direct CD to CD copys.

> You are trying to get the data down the
> same cable that you are trying to send it up.

And that doesnt happen simultaneously anyway. It reads
a chunk from the CD, then writes that to the burner etc.

> Buffer under run come on down!

Fantasy.

> Slave the CD to the hard drive and put the CDRW
> on the other IDE as master if this IDE is free. If it
> is ot then slave it to whatever is on that connection.

Not necessary.

> Paminifarm CyberArt <kikki@aug.com> wrote

>> I am never going to get my work done today . . .

>> I am delighted with my HP-RW (i thought it came with the adeptec).

> > Make your CD-ROM the "master" (it probably already is set for "master",
> > however mine wasnot, so i had to take everything out and do it all over
> > again, and without a screwdriver at that), and the RW the "slave" (if the
> RW
> > is second on the cable).
> >
> > Place your RW softwear in the CD-ROM, and do exactly as it sez. After
> > completion of installation, of course remove software and carefully place
> > back in holder.
> >
> > Place one of your old/tried/and true, regular music CD's in your CD-ROM;
> > then place a new, blank CD-R in your newly installed CD-RW; wait and when
> a
> > message comes up asking you what kind of "burn" you want; click music;
> then
> > do exactly as it sez (nothing fancy though). Eventually you will want to
> > click "for any CD drive"; this step should come after the first selection,
> > where you selected the "music" burn); such as in your car.
> >
> > In other words: you will need to click the kind of disk to burn; then the
> > kind of "drive" you want (you want the one that will let you play it in
> your
> > car etc.). When burn is completed (a pop-up should tell you); now remove
> > everything, and now proudly place newly burned disk into the CD-ROM; maybe
> > it will begin to play immediately, if not do what ever it is you always do
> > to get your CD-ROM running; then try the disk in your car.
> >
> > The reason i am telling you to do this is because it is the easy one to do
> > (the others are very difficult to learn). Once you know everything is
> > working properly, and you have practiced; carefully venture to a "copy".
> > Always remember to use a CD-R disk before you jump to the CD-RW disk,
> until
> > you get the hang of things (do your baby steps first, and in no time at
> all
> > you will be galloping down that hill at break-neck speed).
> >
> > The CD-R disks, upon which you practice, can be thrown away; they are
> cheap.
> > The CD-RW disks are over twice the price (these are the ones you use as a
> > huge "floppy", and there are two different ways of burning and selecting
> the
> > drives' usage, and one is more sophisticated than the other, and i doubt
> if
> > you will ever need that one). i feel sure the music and copy (done on a
> > CD-R, and the floppy (done on a CD-RW) are the ones you need to learn.
> >
> > You are right, life is meaningless without the RW, man cannot live by
> CD-ROM
> > alone; but by the CD-RW.
> >
> > E-mail me at babydance@lycosmail.com if you need any help.
> > --
> > http://lillyrouge.tripod.com/greenet.html
> > --
> > "Simon Mead" <TheMeades@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> > news:Tu%p6.11125$v5.48321@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
> > > I wonder if anyone can offer any advice.
> > > I purchased a Sony CD Writer, attached it to my pc and found it was
> > faulty.
> > > Basically the data coming from it was corrupted.
> > > I got a replacement unit - same model - also faulty, it 'hung' my system
> > and
> > > Win98 wouldn't load.
> > > I returned it and got a Ricoh this time.
> > > I fitted it to my computer. It was recognised at boot up. Device Manager
> > > knew the unit was there. I inserted a CD in my other CD Rom drive, it
> > > powered up and read the disc. I inserted the CD in the Ricoh, it
> wouldn't
> > > power up (spin) and wouldn't read the disk.
> > > This time I got my money back, although I actually wanted a working CD
> > > Writer.
> > > The computer shop would not give me a replacement as "your machine is
> > > destroying CD Writers and I can't risk another one".
> > >
> > > My feelings are that I was unlucky with the first 2. The third might not
> > > have been as straightforward as it appears, there's a possibility that
> it
> > > was not a new model.
> > >
> > > My question is, is it possible that my PC could be destroying CD
> writers?
> > If
> > > so, Should it also be destroying CD ROM drives too?
> > >
> > > Simon
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>