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I think maybe ImageFX has this option, I`m not sure (this is from memory) but
it's worth a try.  There may be a demo on Aminet or somewhere...

Matt

Soy Sprite wrote:

>  Does anybody know of a program that lets you correct motion-induced
> shearing that appears in video framegrabs?
>
>  --You know how a moving object on video, gets sliced up due to
> interlacing?  One field shows half the raster lines, and the next field
> (created 1/30th of a second later in NTSC, 1/25th in PAL) shows the
> subject moved over a little bit farther.  The result looks like crud.
> Sometimes it looks blurry, other times it's all zippery.
>
>   I know the AGA-Toaster had great software to deal with this but I don't
> have a Toaster so I need help in finding software to do this simple
> correction.  I don't even know if the Toaster software would run (at all)
> without a Toaster being installed.
>
>  I've seen such a prog on the older Macs.  The Amiga, with it's raster
> coprocessor would be ideal for realtime preview of fine-tuning of such
> images (though most programmers don't seem to understand the Amiga's novel
> hardware).
>
>  BTW the framegrabs are being done on a (ick) DraCo Casablanca.  It's a
> castrated Amiga AFAIK.  The Casablanca is, in this case, networked to a
> Wintel box, so I can use Wintel software if you have any de-shearers to
> suggest.
>
> If you can cc: a reply to me that would help a lot.

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Image FX will deinterlace an already grabbed image this may or may not fix
your problem it depends on how diffrent the fields are.  In Opalpaint there
is a very handy deinterlace tool that lets you choose odd or evens fields to
duplicate (making a stable image) or even an interpolation of the two fileds
taking the midpoint of both. this is a good way to soften an image without
loosing detail that only exista on one field but is still a compromise.  A
timebase corrector will also be a big help when grabbing a moving image it
makes sure all the equipment is working togeather in phase. This is not
necessarily technically correct so dont flame me but it is a good thing to
have if you can afford one.  There is no solution if the image is distorted
garbage in garbage out! blip_maug@yahoo.com Hope this helps

  I don't think ImageFX has anything like this.  In fact i've found it to
be a pretty weak program.  I don't know why people get so excited over it.

On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Leanne Webb wrote:

> Image FX will deinterlace an already grabbed image this may or may not fix
> your problem it depends on how diffrent the fields are.

 I don't want to deinterlace anything!  ImageFX essentially throws away
every other line (as far as I can tell).  I want to keep as much
resolution as possible.  i could accomplish the same thing as ImageFX's
deinterlace by simply grabbing a field (about 240 lines) instead of a
full frame (about 480 lines).  But I want the full 480 lines.

>  In Opalpaint there

Can OpalPaint run on an AGA machine?  Or does it still require an
OpalVision card?

> is a very handy deinterlace tool that lets you choose odd or evens fields to
> duplicate (making a stable image) or even an interpolation of the two fileds
> taking the midpoint of both.

The interpolation sounds like a possible solution.  How does it accomplish
this?

> timebase corrector will also be a big help when grabbing a moving image it
> makes sure all the equipment is working togeather in phase. This is not

Have the TBC already.  That's not the problem.  Problem is unsteady camera
work and nude chicks moving too fast.

Thanks!

I've not keep up with Amiga news (though my 2000/30 stills sees daily
service) in several years, due to all the disappointments.  On Friday, a
friend of mine directed me to
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/99/0809/6403050a.htm   I just checked it, and
it is still accessible.  That is FORBES magazine, not know for fantasy.  I
then went on to amiga.com com and downloaded/printed the Technology Brief.
Wished I had saved it!

I came looking to see if other were having difficulty getting to amiga.com
and amigacentral.com, as I assumed the entire Amiga community would be aware
of the momentous announcements and the technology brief from Collas and
team.  It appears that I was wrong!  The Technology Brief is one of the most
brilliant combinations of business acumen and technological innovation I've
ever seen.  We are about to lose our machine to the world.  I am 50 years
old and a business person, and I can tell you THIS IS GOING TO FLY.   It is
my belief that the sites are abosolutely overwhelmed with attempts to
connect, both by Amigans as well as by investors who've seen the new vision
offered by the Amiga plan.

If it can be had, buy Transmeta now...if not, buy Gateway and any other
available Amiga-connected stock.

This is going to be FUN!!!

"Save your boing anims, boys, the Amiga shall rise again."

Dave Mallett
InSysTech Interactive Multimeda

I wonder how valueble a "pre-Commodore" Amiga is worth?  Especially a
working one that I have with a 1 gigabyte hard drive in it? ....


On Tue, 03 Aug 1999 16:17:35 GMT, "Microsoft" <Bill@microsoft.com>
wrote:

>I've not keep up with Amiga news (though my 2000/30 stills sees daily
>service) in several years, due to all the disappointments.  On Friday, a
>friend of mine directed me to
>http://www.forbes.com/forbes/99/0809/6403050a.htm   I just checked it, and
>it is still accessible.  That is FORBES magazine, not know for fantasy.  I
>then went on to amiga.com com and downloaded/printed the Technology Brief.
>Wished I had saved it!
>
>I came looking to see if other were having difficulty getting to amiga.com
>and amigacentral.com, as I assumed the entire Amiga community would be aware
>of the momentous announcements and the technology brief from Collas and
>team.  It appears that I was wrong!  The Technology Brief is one of the most
>brilliant combinations of business acumen and technological innovation I've
>ever seen.  We are about to lose our machine to the world.  I am 50 years
>old and a business person, and I can tell you THIS IS GOING TO FLY.   It is
>my belief that the sites are abosolutely overwhelmed with attempts to
>connect, both by Amigans as well as by investors who've seen the new vision
>offered by the Amiga plan.
>
>If it can be had, buy Transmeta now...if not, buy Gateway and any other
>available Amiga-connected stock.
>
>This is going to be FUN!!!
>
>"Save your boing anims, boys, the Amiga shall rise again."
>
>Dave Mallett
>InSysTech Interactive Multimeda
>
>

On Fri, 06 Aug 1999 22:34:27 GMT, The Alien <Someone@Someplace.Com> wrote:
>I wonder how valueble a "pre-Commodore" Amiga is worth?  Especially a
>working one that I have with a 1 gigabyte hard drive in it? ....

How many pre-Commodore Amigas are there? Are they A1000s, or also A500s, A2000s?
Only prototypes? I've never known better than that Amiga was owned by Commodore
from the day they first released a machine to the public, but then again it took
some time for me to realize there were also A1200s and A4000Ts that are not C=.

I'd sure like to have an A1000 now, and a A3000 which I still think is the most
sexiest looking Amiga :) Won't spend very much on it though.

Greetz, Whaley.

The Alien <Someone@Someplace.Com> wrote in article
<37ab62c8.711887@netnews.worldnet.att.net>...
> I wonder how valueble a "pre-Commodore" Amiga is worth?  Especially a
> working one that I have with a 1 gigabyte hard drive in it? ....
> 

You have one?. Cool. 
It could be worth quite a tidy sum to a collector.
How does it differ to a C= badged A1000?.

BTW, as there was no harddrive on the original A1000 as standard, any
modifications done to make the drive (and interface) fit internally would
actually de-value the computer to a collector.

Do you also have the original KS1.0 and AmigaOS1.0 disks?.

Regards,

Clockmeister.

I occasionally drag out my A1000 (complete with monstrous Sidecar XT and 20meg hard
drive) just to check that it all still goes, and it always amazes me that no other
manufacturer has realised how practical it was to have that little space under the
case where the keyboard fits.
As far as pre Commodore Amigas go, I don't think they exist. The machine which
became the Amiga was initially called the Lorraine - the Amiga name was bestowed on
it by Commodore.

Bob

Marco van den Hout wrote:

> On Fri, 06 Aug 1999 22:34:27 GMT, The Alien <Someone@Someplace.Com> wrote:
> >I wonder how valueble a "pre-Commodore" Amiga is worth?  Especially a
> >working one that I have with a 1 gigabyte hard drive in it? ....
>
> How many pre-Commodore Amigas are there? Are they A1000s, or also A500s, A2000s?
> Only prototypes? I've never known better than that Amiga was owned by Commodore
> from the day they first released a machine to the public, but then again it took
> some time for me to realize there were also A1200s and A4000Ts that are not C=.
>
> I'd sure like to have an A1000 now, and a A3000 which I still think is the most
> sexiest looking Amiga :) Won't spend very much on it though.
>
> Greetz, Whaley.

--


Beer is proof that God
loves us and wants us to
be happy.

--Benjamin Franklin

Bob Thompson <robert_thompson@bigfoot.com> wrote in article
<37ABB960.C76FAA25@bigfoot.com>...
> I occasionally drag out my A1000 (complete with monstrous Sidecar XT and
20meg hard
> drive) just to check that it all still goes, and it always amazes me that
no other
> manufacturer has realised how practical it was to have that little space
under the
> case where the keyboard fits.
> As far as pre Commodore Amigas go, I don't think they exist. The machine
which
> became the Amiga was initially called the Lorraine - the Amiga name was
bestowed on
> it by Commodore.

No, Lorraine was the name of the breadboard masterpiece which was to become
the A1000. Hi-Toro changed their name to Amiga *before* Atari, and
subsequently Commodore came into the picture. (C= snatched Amiga from under
Atari's nose ;-)

Regards,

Clockmeister.

The amiga was always from commodore. The A1000 didn't say it was a commodore
machine. it had amiga checks on the keyboard.......


Bob Thompson heeft geschreven in bericht <37ABB960.C76FAA25@bigfoot.com>...
>I occasionally drag out my A1000 (complete with monstrous Sidecar XT and
20meg hard
>drive) just to check that it all still goes, and it always amazes me that
no other
>manufacturer has realised how practical it was to have that little space
under the
>case where the keyboard fits.
>As far as pre Commodore Amigas go, I don't think they exist. The machine
which
>became the Amiga was initially called the Lorraine - the Amiga name was
bestowed on
>it by Commodore.
>
>Bob
>
>Marco van den Hout wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 06 Aug 1999 22:34:27 GMT, The Alien <Someone@Someplace.Com>
wrote:
>> >I wonder how valueble a "pre-Commodore" Amiga is worth?  Especially a
>> >working one that I have with a 1 gigabyte hard drive in it? ....
>>
>> How many pre-Commodore Amigas are there? Are they A1000s, or also A500s,
A2000s?
>> Only prototypes? I've never known better than that Amiga was owned by
Commodore
>> from the day they first released a machine to the public, but then again
it took
>> some time for me to realize there were also A1200s and A4000Ts that are
not C=.
>>
>> I'd sure like to have an A1000 now, and a A3000 which I still think is
the most
>> sexiest looking Amiga :) Won't spend very much on it though.
>>
>> Greetz, Whaley.
>
>--
>
>
>Beer is proof that God
>loves us and wants us to
>be happy.
>
>--Benjamin Franklin
>
>

Hi,

Bob Thompson wrote:

> I occasionally drag out my A1000 (complete with monstrous Sidecar XT and 20meg hard
> drive) just to check that it all still goes, and it always amazes me that no other
> manufacturer has realised how practical it was to have that little space under the
> case where the keyboard fits.
> As far as pre Commodore Amigas go, I don't think they exist. The machine which
> became the Amiga was initially called the Lorraine - the Amiga name was bestowed on
> it by Commodore.
>
> Bob
>

Um, I'm pretty certain that the Amiga name was *not* bestowed by Commodore, yes it was
called Lorraine, but then they used Amiga. In fact I believe Lorraine was only used
initially because it is the name of one of the dentists wives (you know, those dentists
who first invested in the 'Amiga'..) ;-)

Regards,

Ross....

Hi,

Clockmeister wrote:

> <Pre Commodore Amiga>

> You have one?. Cool.
> It could be worth quite a tidy sum to a collector.
> How does it differ to a C= badged A1000?.
>
> BTW, as there was no harddrive on the original A1000 as standard, any
> modifications done to make the drive (and interface) fit internally would
> actually de-value the computer to a collector.
>
> Do you also have the original KS1.0 and AmigaOS1.0 disks?.
>

I don't think they exist, he makes it sound like they were 'around'...But I
I'm pretty certain they never launched a product before Commodore, just had a
prototype(s)..

Regards,

Ross....

Hi Ross,

Ross Vumbaca <rossv@antispam.fl.net.au> wrote in article
<37ABE328.5CE5C80F@antispam.fl.net.au>...
> Hi,
> 
> Clockmeister wrote:
> 
> > <Pre Commodore Amiga>
> 
> > You have one?. Cool.
> > It could be worth quite a tidy sum to a collector.
> > How does it differ to a C= badged A1000?.
> >
> > BTW, as there was no harddrive on the original A1000 as standard, any
> > modifications done to make the drive (and interface) fit internally
would
> > actually de-value the computer to a collector.
> >
> > Do you also have the original KS1.0 and AmigaOS1.0 disks?.
> >
> 
> I don't think they exist, he makes it sound like they were 'around'...But
I
> I'm pretty certain they never launched a product before Commodore, just
had a
> prototype(s)..
> 

That's what I thought, but KS1.0/AmigaOS1.0 (CLI only, no GUI) were
released but perhaps only to developers. That's what made me think that the
possibility of pre C= Amiga's being out there may be possible.From reading
some Amiga history from various sources it sounds like pre-C= Amigas were
released at some point.

In typical Amiga tradition, details of the earliest days of Amiga are a bit
sketchy, so you're probably right. 
They did make Joysticks (or similar) however, and they must be true
collectors items by now I should imagine ;-)

 Regards,

Clockmeister.

Pre C= Amigas would be easy to identify as they will have a 5 1/4
floppy drive.  The move to 3 1/2 was instituted by C=.


On Sat, 07 Aug 1999 17:39:01 +1000, Ross Vumbaca
<rossv@antispam.fl.net.au> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Bob Thompson wrote:
>
>> I occasionally drag out my A1000 (complete with monstrous Sidecar XT and 20meg hard
>> drive) just to check that it all still goes, and it always amazes me that no other
>> manufacturer has realised how practical it was to have that little space under the
>> case where the keyboard fits.
>> As far as pre Commodore Amigas go, I don't think they exist. The machine which
>> became the Amiga was initially called the Lorraine - the Amiga name was bestowed on
>> it by Commodore.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>
>Um, I'm pretty certain that the Amiga name was *not* bestowed by Commodore, yes it was
>called Lorraine, but then they used Amiga. In fact I believe Lorraine was only used
>initially because it is the name of one of the dentists wives (you know, those dentists
>who first invested in the 'Amiga'..) ;-)
>
>Regards,
>
>Ross....

Erik Bruser <bruser@xs4all.nl> wrote in article
<7ohruj$587$1@news1.xs4all.nl>...
> The amiga was always from commodore. The A1000 didn't say it was a
commodore
> machine. it had amiga checks on the keyboard.......
> 

My A1000 has Commodore logo on the front of the computer and Amiga checks
on the keyboard and main unit. All the ones I've seen thus far have been
the same.

Regards,

Clockmeister.

On 6 Aug 1999 23:51:39 GMT, the soul known as whaley@therapy.xs4all.nl
(Marco van den Hout) did verily smite their keyboard thusly:

>On Fri, 06 Aug 1999 22:34:27 GMT, The Alien <Someone@Someplace.Com> wrote:
>>I wonder how valueble a "pre-Commodore" Amiga is worth?  Especially a
>>working one that I have with a 1 gigabyte hard drive in it? ....
>
>How many pre-Commodore Amigas are there? Are they A1000s, or also A500s, A2000s?
>Only prototypes? I've never known better than that Amiga was owned by Commodore
>from the day they first released a machine to the public, but then again it took
>some time for me to realize there were also A1200s and A4000Ts that are not C=.

I remember reading about C= dragging a huge bread-boarded version of
the Amiga to shows, so I kinda doubt it. Remember it was the custom
chipset that was the big thing, and AFAIK, it was C= who got them put
into silicon.

>I'd sure like to have an A1000 now, and a A3000 which I still think is the most
>sexiest looking Amiga :) Won't spend very much on it though.

But the first A1000's have the autographs off the design team
(including Jay Miner's dog) under the case lid.  :o)

>Greetz, Whaley.

Antti

"It's the worst feeling in the world to love a song and then
                 discover that what they're singing about is lame" - Kristin Hersh

Clockmeister wrote:
> 
> Erik Bruser <bruser@xs4all.nl> wrote in article
> <7ohruj$587$1@news1.xs4all.nl>...
> > The amiga was always from commodore. The A1000 didn't say it was a
> commodore
> > machine. it had amiga checks on the keyboard.......
> >
> 
> My A1000 has Commodore logo on the front of the computer and Amiga checks
> on the keyboard and main unit. All the ones I've seen thus far have been
> the same.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Clockmeister.

My A1000 doesn't have any reference to Commodore anywhere on the outside
of the case, keyboard, monitor, etc -- everywhere, just "Amiga" and the
checks...

-Trevor

On Sat, 07 Aug 1999 15:36:09 GMT, Clockmeister <gerryvdb@tnet.com.au> wrote:

>In typical Amiga tradition, details of the earliest days of Amiga are a bit
>sketchy, so you're probably right. 
>They did make Joysticks (or similar) however, and they must be true
>collectors items by now I should imagine ;-)

Joyboards, or Guru Meditation Devices :-)

Hi,

Holgrave@aol.com wrote:

> Clockmeister wrote:
> >
> > Erik Bruser <bruser@xs4all.nl> wrote in article
> > <7ohruj$587$1@news1.xs4all.nl>...
> > > The amiga was always from commodore. The A1000 didn't say it was a
> > commodore
> > > machine. it had amiga checks on the keyboard.......
> > >
> >
> > My A1000 has Commodore logo on the front of the computer and Amiga checks
> > on the keyboard and main unit. All the ones I've seen thus far have been
> > the same.
>
> My A1000 doesn't have any reference to Commodore anywhere on the outside
> of the case, keyboard, monitor, etc -- everywhere, just "Amiga" and the
> checks...
>

This is very unusual, it is a Commodore machine though, becuse before Commodore
there was no mass released Amiga. Maybe if you look at the chips inside or the
face plate, you will see that there is a Commodore ID or a CSG on the chips,
etc etc..

Regards,

Ross....