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Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#75
Author: idiotxxx
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 00:00
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I have a problem with a SoundBlaster 16 Plug & Pray. 

I am unable to use it on my OS2 Warp 4 system.  I have an ethernet 
adaptor (NE2000 clone) which has software programmable IRQ etc and 
when my system boots up, as soon as the network drivers search for the 
card I get a trap as below.
=======
07-27-1997  15:30:00  SYS3175  PID 0001  TID 0006  Slot 0006
sysinit
=======

I am using an old 8bit card with jumpers that let me set the IRQ etc but I'd love
to be able to use my 16 bit card.
If I take eitehr the network card or the SB16 card out of the machine the other 
will work correctly.

Has anyone else overcome this problem ?

Specific system info can be provided if required.

Any suggestions ??

Nev..

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Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#76
Author: Sam Detweiler
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 00:00
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If you know what the NE2000 port/IRQ are, then add

basedev=reserve.sys /P:port,32 /IRQ:??

to the config.sys

then reboot, Alt-F1 at the white blob, and select Enable Hardware Detection..

this 'MAY' force the SB to be configured at some other address than
it was during install, so if the SB driver fails to load, then
rmview /dc >somefile from the commandline after boot,
figure out where the SB was configured and chage the
parms to the SB driver in config.sys

Warp 4 PnP configurator author..

(the NE2000 SHOULD have been detected by the DETNE2.SNP during install,
but we have seem some that go undetected for some reason..)


idiotxxx@mindless.com wrote:

> I have a problem with a SoundBlaster 16 Plug & Pray.
>
> I am unable to use it on my OS2 Warp 4 system.  I have an ethernet
> adaptor (NE2000 clone) which has software programmable IRQ etc and
> when my system boots up, as soon as the network drivers search for the
> card I get a trap as below.
> =======
> 07-27-1997  15:30:00  SYS3175  PID 0001  TID 0006  Slot 0006
> sysinit
> =======
>
> I am using an old 8bit card with jumpers that let me set the IRQ etc but I'd
> love
> to be able to use my 16 bit card.
> If I take eitehr the network card or the SB16 card out of the machine the
> other
> will work correctly.
>
> Has anyone else overcome this problem ?
>
> Specific system info can be provided if required.
>
> Any suggestions ??
>
> Nev..
>
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Sam Detweiler
OS/2 Device Driver Development
OS/2 Advisor
IBM
Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#77
Author: Ken Hildabolt
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 00:00
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In <c1.01.2GzH8q$03A@warped.connexus.apana.org.au>, on 07/27/97 
   at 05:51 AM, idiotxxx@mindless.com said:

If nothing else works, the /p parm on the device driver will. Here is the
statement for my awe32 pnp:

DEVICE=D:\MMOS2\SBAWED2.SYS /C:1 /D:1 /H:5 /I:5 /A:220 /M:330 /N:SBAUD1$
/P /G DEVICE=D:\MMOS2\AUDIOVDD.SYS SBAUD1$


}Has anyone else overcome this problem ?

}Specific system info can be provided if required.

}Any suggestions ??

}Nev..

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  "Ken Hildabolt" <hildajk1@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu>
Applied Physics Laboratory / The Johns Hopkins University
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Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#78
Author: Simon South
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 00:00
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In article <c1.01.2GzH8q$03A@warped.connexus.apana.org.au>,
 <idiotxxx@mindless.com> wrote:
>I have a problem with a SoundBlaster 16 Plug & Pray. 
>Any suggestions ??

Not sure if this will help, but if you can determine exactly what the
conflict is -- i.e., narrow it down to a specific IRQ or DMA channel
that's overlapping -- you might be able to get around the problem
by forcing the Sound Blaster drivers to use a particular configuration
for the soundcard.

Appending "/O" to the line in your CONFIG.SYS which loads the SB16
driver will make it use the settings you specify -- DMA channel and
IRQ number, for instance.  I can't remember just what the format
is for these parameters, but they should be listed in the documentation
that came with driver.  This way you can force the Sound Blaster to use
an IRQ/DMA combination that won't conflict with the network card.

Good luck!

-- 
Simon South         CS Undergraduate, University of Waterloo
E-mail: ssouth@orc.ca    Web page: http://www.orc.ca/~ssouth
Coming Soon: Blue Notes, the Alternative OS/2 MIDI Sequencer
Visit http://www.orc.ca/~ssouth/BlueNotes.html for more info
Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#79
Author: msinger
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 00:00
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In <c1.01.2GzH8q$03A@warped.connexus.apana.org.au>, on 07/27/97 
   at 05:51 AM, idiotxxx@mindless.com said:

>I have a problem with a SoundBlaster 16 Plug & Pray. 

>I am unable to use it on my OS2 Warp 4 system.  I have an ethernet 
>adaptor (NE2000 clone) which has software programmable IRQ etc and  when
>my system boots up, as soon as the network drivers search for the  card I
>get a trap as below.
>=======
>07-27-1997  15:30:00  SYS3175  PID 0001  TID 0006  Slot 0006 sysinit
>=======

>I am using an old 8bit card with jumpers that let me set the IRQ etc but
>I'd love to be able to use my 16 bit card.
>If I take eitehr the network card or the SB16 card out of the machine the
>other  will work correctly.

>Has anyone else overcome this problem ?

>Specific system info can be provided if required.

>Any suggestions ??

>Nev..

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Try turning the plug n play off in your ne 2000 card.  Manually set IRQ to 15 and Address to 300.  Then allow sound card to search for open IRQ and ADDRESS.  Watchout sometimes CD-ROM likes Address 300.

Good luck 
Jeffrey
Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#74
Author: Trev Peterson
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 00:00
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I am having problems with a Boca Office Communicator FDV34SVD PNP
fax/modem.  When the modem is in the mouse locks up in OS/2 V4.00.  I
checked this using Win95 to verify that it worked there and it did.

I can't lock the config on the modem and don't want to reconfig the
mouse port (don't want to impact Linux, etc).  Checking IBM's database
of incidents didn't find anything.  Any suggestions?

	Trev

Please respond via email
Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#60
Author: Stan Koper
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:00
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I just picked up an internal Philips k56flex modem.  I have a
dual boot system, Win95 and OS/2 4.0.  The modem set up under
Win95 as Com3, Irq 10.  I have the SIO drivers under OS/2, and
they don't recognize the modem *unless* I stop the boot at the
white square and select full hardware detection.

When it does work under OS/2 it's still com3 (since the
motherboard has two serial ports), but the Irq is 7.  I haven't
tried it under WinOS/2.

What I'd like to know is, is it possible to establish full
hardware detection *without* interrupting boot up?  Is there
some line I can add to config.sys or is there some other process
(like selective install) that I can use to get the modem
recognized by OS/2?


In article <342F3E86.4012@focus.winternet.com>,
Trev Peterson <tpeterso@focus.winternet.com> wrote:
>I am having problems with a Boca Office Communicator FDV34SVD PNP
>fax/modem.  When the modem is in the mouse locks up in OS/2 V4.00.  I
>checked this using Win95 to verify that it worked there and it did.
>
Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#61
Author: Sam_Detweiler
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:00
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Well,

Assuming this is a decent PnP device, and you've
run hardware detection after its installation,
then rmview /dc from the commandline SHOULD
show you where the modem was configured.

It should NOT be needed to redo detection on
EACH boot however (if this is a good PnP 
device) as we (my code) will reconfigure
it to the SAME place as last time detection
was run..

Now.. I have a tweak to the ISAPNP configurator
I'd like you to try, and will send you an offline
note with code and instructions..

In answer to your 'specific' question,

Os/2 System->System Setup->Hardware Manager-Properties,
Default Detection level, full Hardware Detection..

(only time I've seen this is on a Crystal 
based sound card where the .SNP programs
the adapter)



Stan Koper wrote:
> 
> I just picked up an internal Philips k56flex modem.  I have a
> dual boot system, Win95 and OS/2 4.0.  The modem set up under
> Win95 as Com3, Irq 10.  I have the SIO drivers under OS/2, and
> they don't recognize the modem *unless* I stop the boot at the
> white square and select full hardware detection.
> 
> When it does work under OS/2 it's still com3 (since the
> motherboard has two serial ports), but the Irq is 7.  I haven't
> tried it under WinOS/2.
> 
> What I'd like to know is, is it possible to establish full
> hardware detection *without* interrupting boot up?  Is there
> some line I can add to config.sys or is there some other process
> (like selective install) that I can use to get the modem
> recognized by OS/2?
> 
> In article <342F3E86.4012@focus.winternet.com>,
> Trev Peterson <tpeterso@focus.winternet.com> wrote:
> >I am having problems with a Boca Office Communicator FDV34SVD PNP
> >fax/modem.  When the modem is in the mouse locks up in OS/2 V4.00.  I
> >checked this using Win95 to verify that it worked there and it did.
> >

-- 
Sam Detweiler
IBM OS/2 Development
Device Driver development and Support
OS/2 Advisor
Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4-request configurator
#62
Author: harry travis
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:00
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Can someone provide references to an FAQ on disabling the plug and play
features of my motherboard so I can assign the IRQ's I want to sound
cards and ISA scsi cards for use in OS/2? Some cards offer WIN users
greater flexibility in overrideing the plug and play setting s with
software, (undoubtedly because they catch more complaints from more
numerous users with those OSs)

-- 
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"harry travis" <htravis@ibm.net>
DemostiX
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Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4-request configurator
#63
Author: Sam_Detweiler
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:00
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Sorry, no mechanism to disable PnP adapters or functions.


harry travis wrote:
> 
> Can someone provide references to an FAQ on disabling the plug and play
> features of my motherboard so I can assign the IRQ's I want to sound
> cards and ISA scsi cards for use in OS/2? Some cards offer WIN users
> greater flexibility in overrideing the plug and play setting s with
> software, (undoubtedly because they catch more complaints from more
> numerous users with those OSs)
> 
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> "harry travis" <htravis@ibm.net>
> DemostiX
> -----------------------------------------------------------

-- 
Sam Detweiler
IBM OS/2 Development
Device Driver development and Support
OS/2 Advisor
Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#64
Author: Stan Koper
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:00
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In article <344D18AF.2412@ibm.net>,
"Sam_Detweiler@ibm.net" <Sam_Detweiler@ibm.net> wrote:
>Well,
>
>Assuming this is a decent PnP device, and you've
>run hardware detection after its installation,
>then rmview /dc from the commandline SHOULD
>show you where the modem was configured.
>

As I said in response to an e-mail message from Sam, I didn't
know that you could set up the hardware manager to detect
newly-installed hardware on the next boot, and then set it to
remember what it found, after that.

After I posted the original message, I got to thinking about
how helpful troubleshooting had been in guiding me through the
setup of a sound card in WinOS/2.  And although using online
documentation is often like using the Yellow Pages--no matter
what category you look in first, you'll find a message directing
you somewhere else--I decided to give it a whirl, and looked up
plug and play.

And it was there that I found that if you click the right
mouse button on the hardware manager icon, and select "properties",
you will get a menu of choices ranging from no hardware detection
to full hardware detection, with detect new hardware and remember
what you found last time in between.

And that did the trick.

Now if I can only figure out how to get the Jazz 16 sound card in
my other OS/2 machine to work...(it works fine in Win95, and it's
not PnP).

>It should NOT be needed to redo detection on
>EACH boot however (if this is a good PnP 
>device) as we (my code) will reconfigure
>it to the SAME place as last time detection
>was run..

Right.  One of the hardware manager choices is to retain the
previous results, in effect "remembering what it found the
last time detection was enabled".

I mean, I had a ton of aggravation getting the modem to work
in Win95, until I figured out that you had to run hardware
detection twice--once with the card out of the machine (to
establish a baseline) and then again with the card in.  Until
then, Win95 kept assigning it the same com port number as
the built-in port.

If anyone in the Boston MA area is interested, this is a
simple K56flex card from MicroCenter, $59.95 while they
last.  It has a flash bios, so whenever a standard for 56k
is decided on, it should be automatically upgradeable.

Right now I'm getting downloads of about 3250 cps (is it
cps or bps?), not 56k for sure, but 25% faster than my
old 28.8 card.

>
>Now.. I have a tweak to the ISAPNP configurator
>I'd like you to try, and will send you an offline
>note with code and instructions..

Received and installed.

>
>In answer to your 'specific' question,
>
>Os/2 System->System Setup->Hardware Manager-Properties,
>Default Detection level, full Hardware Detection..
>
Right.  And thanks again.  
Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#65
Author: Sam_Detweiler
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:00
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Sorry. want to add one thing..

When the WPS comes up, the CURRENT BOOT PnP data
is saved, PERIOD. You do NOT need to request that the
data be saved..it just will be.

Unless specifically requested (alt-F1/F5 at boot,
or changing the Hardware Manager defaults) the
saved current config will be restored on next
boot to insure that all PnP hardware is placed
at the same location as last boot.




Stan Koper wrote:
> 
> In article <344D18AF.2412@ibm.net>,
> "Sam_Detweiler@ibm.net" <Sam_Detweiler@ibm.net> wrote:
> >Well,
> >
> >Assuming this is a decent PnP device, and you've
> >run hardware detection after its installation,
> >then rmview /dc from the commandline SHOULD
> >show you where the modem was configured.
> >
> 
> As I said in response to an e-mail message from Sam, I didn't
> know that you could set up the hardware manager to detect
> newly-installed hardware on the next boot, and then set it to
> remember what it found, after that.
> 
> After I posted the original message, I got to thinking about
> how helpful troubleshooting had been in guiding me through the
> setup of a sound card in WinOS/2.  And although using online
> documentation is often like using the Yellow Pages--no matter
> what category you look in first, you'll find a message directing
> you somewhere else--I decided to give it a whirl, and looked up
> plug and play.
> 
> And it was there that I found that if you click the right
> mouse button on the hardware manager icon, and select "properties",
> you will get a menu of choices ranging from no hardware detection
> to full hardware detection, with detect new hardware and remember
> what you found last time in between.
> 
> And that did the trick.
> 
> Now if I can only figure out how to get the Jazz 16 sound card in
> my other OS/2 machine to work...(it works fine in Win95, and it's
> not PnP).
> 
> >It should NOT be needed to redo detection on
> >EACH boot however (if this is a good PnP
> >device) as we (my code) will reconfigure
> >it to the SAME place as last time detection
> >was run..
> 
> Right.  One of the hardware manager choices is to retain the
> previous results, in effect "remembering what it found the
> last time detection was enabled".
> 
> I mean, I had a ton of aggravation getting the modem to work
> in Win95, until I figured out that you had to run hardware
> detection twice--once with the card out of the machine (to
> establish a baseline) and then again with the card in.  Until
> then, Win95 kept assigning it the same com port number as
> the built-in port.
> 
> If anyone in the Boston MA area is interested, this is a
> simple K56flex card from MicroCenter, $59.95 while they
> last.  It has a flash bios, so whenever a standard for 56k
> is decided on, it should be automatically upgradeable.
> 
> Right now I'm getting downloads of about 3250 cps (is it
> cps or bps?), not 56k for sure, but 25% faster than my
> old 28.8 card.
> 
> >
> >Now.. I have a tweak to the ISAPNP configurator
> >I'd like you to try, and will send you an offline
> >note with code and instructions..
> 
> Received and installed.
> 
> >
> >In answer to your 'specific' question,
> >
> >Os/2 System->System Setup->Hardware Manager-Properties,
> >Default Detection level, full Hardware Detection..
> >
> Right.  And thanks again.

-- 
Sam Detweiler
IBM OS/2 Development
Device Driver development and Support
OS/2 Advisor
Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#66
Author: Richard Steiner
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:00
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Here in comp.os.os2.setup, David Moorhouse
<davidm{spamfence}@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au> spake unto us, saying:

>Stan Koper wrote:
>> 
>> Right now I'm getting downloads of about 3250 cps (is it
>> cps or bps?), not 56k for sure, but 25% faster than my
>> old 28.8 card.
>> 
>It's cps - Characters Per Second.  A 56K modem running at
>its theoretical maximum of 56x1024 bps - Bits Per Second -
>should be able to deliver 56x1024/10 = 5734 cps, assuming
>1 start bit, 8 bit data, 1 stop bit, and no compression.

Keep in mind, however, that most error-correction protocols (at least
MNP4 and LAP-M, the two common ones in our own asynch modem context)
actually reframe the data, essentially removing the start and stop bits
which otherwise would accompany each data byte and replacing them with
a smallish header every hundred or so bytes (I admit I don't remember
precise numbers and it varies a little with the specific implementation,
but that's ballpark IIRC).

In a nutshell, a typical connection using EC will approach 8 bits/data
byte, and not 10 bits/data byte.

>Bps is not the same as 'baud', which strictly is transitions
>per second.  In the old days, a 300baud modem was 300bps,
>since each transition was 1 bit.  Nowadays, the modems
>encode 4 bits or more for each transition.

You bet.  I've lost track since the release of Rockwell's V.FastClass,
but I remember that even the old 14.4kbps HST protocol was 6 bits/baud.

-- 
-Rich Steiner  >>>--->  rsteiner@skypoint.com  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
         OS/2 Warp 4 + Linux + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
          CIRCUMVENT:  The result of a botched circumcision!
Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#67
Author: donm
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:00
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In <345082C9.7A5B@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>, on 10/24/97 
   at 11:13 AM, David Moorhouse
<davidm{spamfence}@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au> said:

>>Stan Koper wrote:
>>> 
>>> Right now I'm getting downloads of about 3250 cps (is it
>>> cps or bps?), not 56k for sure, but 25% faster than my
>>> old 28.8 card.
>>> 
>>It's cps - Characters Per Second.  A 56K modem running at
>>its theoretical maximum of 56x1024 bps - Bits Per Second -
>>should be able to deliver 56x1024/10 = 5734 cps, assuming
>>1 start bit, 8 bit data, 1 stop bit, and no compression.
>>Bps is not the same as 'baud', which strictly is transitions per second. 
>>In the old days, a 300baud modem was 300bps,
>>since each transition was 1 bit.  Nowadays, the modems
>>encode 4 bits or more for each transition.

>>DM

PS....

My 28.8 running with SIO and a DTE rate of 115K got download  speeds of
3100-3300cps.....

Most internet providers think the 56K modem is one of the bigger jokes of
the computer history...

don.m


Old Age and Treachery
Will Always Overcome
Youthfulness and Skill 
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donm@ftel.net using Merlin and MR/2 ICE reg#114
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Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#68
Author: donm
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:00
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In <345082C9.7A5B@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>, on 10/24/97 
   at 11:13 AM, David Moorhouse
<davidm{spamfence}@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au> said:

>>Stan Koper wrote:
>>> 
>>> Right now I'm getting downloads of about 3250 cps (is it
>>> cps or bps?), not 56k for sure, but 25% faster than my
>>> old 28.8 card.
>>> 
>>It's cps - Characters Per Second.  A 56K modem running at
>>its theoretical maximum of 56x1024 bps - Bits Per Second -
>>should be able to deliver 56x1024/10 = 5734 cps, assuming
>>1 start bit, 8 bit data, 1 stop bit, and no compression.
>>Bps is not the same as 'baud', which strictly is transitions per second. 
>>In the old days, a 300baud modem was 300bps,
>>since each transition was 1 bit.  Nowadays, the modems
>>encode 4 bits or more for each transition.

>>DM


Slight mod to the equation.... neither of the 56K modems can
actually run 56K.  53K is the legal "speed limit" due to FCC
regs...  that plus the "56K" standard is based on a series of assumtions,
such as only one AtoD conversion in the connection. Any more than that and
you have an expensive 33.6K modem...  :))

don.m

Old Age and Treachery
Will Always Overcome
Youthfulness and Skill 
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donm@ftel.net using Merlin and MR/2 ICE reg#114
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Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#69
Author: David Moorhouse
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:00
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Stan Koper wrote:
> 
> Right now I'm getting downloads of about 3250 cps (is it
> cps or bps?), not 56k for sure, but 25% faster than my
> old 28.8 card.
> 
It's cps - Characters Per Second.  A 56K modem running at
its theoretical maximum of 56x1024 bps - Bits Per Second -
should be able to deliver 56x1024/10 = 5734 cps, assuming
1 start bit, 8 bit data, 1 stop bit, and no compression.
Bps is not the same as 'baud', which strictly is transitions
per second.  In the old days, a 300baud modem was 300bps,
since each transition was 1 bit.  Nowadays, the modems
encode 4 bits or more for each transition.

DM
Modem dl speeds was (Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4)
#70
Author: mchasson
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:00
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In <3450ec89$3$qbaz$mr2ice@nntp.ftel.net>, on 10/24/97 at 11:44 AM,
   donm@ftel.net said:

>>>Stan Koper wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Right now I'm getting downloads of about 3250 cps (is it
>>>> cps or bps?), not 56k for sure, but 25% faster than my
>>>> old 28.8 card.
>>>> 
>>>It's cps - Characters Per Second.  A 56K modem running at
>>>its theoretical maximum of 56x1024 bps - Bits Per Second -
>>>should be able to deliver 56x1024/10 = 5734 cps, assuming
>>>1 start bit, 8 bit data, 1 stop bit, and no compression.
>>>Bps is not the same as 'baud', which strictly is transitions per second. 
>>>In the old days, a 300baud modem was 300bps,
>>>since each transition was 1 bit.  Nowadays, the modems
>>>encode 4 bits or more for each transition.

>>>DM

>PS....

>My 28.8 running with SIO and a DTE rate of 115K got download  speeds of
>3100-3300cps.....

>Most internet providers think the 56K modem is one of the bigger jokes of
>the computer history...

>don.m
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>donm@ftel.net using Merlin and MR/2 ICE reg#114
>-----------------------------------------------------------
Yeah.   I have been reading this thread with some amazement.  I know that
local phone lines are not much in most places, and that I am truly
fortunate to live in a building that has just been rewired in fiber, but
if you guys think that the modem is doing great at the above speeds,
permit me to disagree.  No modem will overcome a poor  connection. 

I am running a Zoom 28800 from an oem box (very cheap) and my carrier
speed on ibm.net (granted they are superior to most) is consistently
28800, with the connect speed at 115200 ( also all the time).  Downloads
are shown by the ibm dialer at up to 3300  (average) when everything is
humming.  I did run the test on the USR bbs and it came in at a perfect
connection so I am not surprised.  but you should get at least  5000 dl
speed to justify the cost of the modem.

-- 
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mchasson@ibm.net
"...apres moi le deluge." - Louis XIV
(every dog has its day -tr.)
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MR2ICE reg#51 and OS2
Re: Modem dl speeds was (Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4)
#71
Author: John Brush
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:00
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In <3453c247$1$zpunffba$mr2ice@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, on 10/26/97 at
05:12 PM,
   mchasson@ibm.net said:

**In <3450ec89$3$qbaz$mr2ice@nntp.ftel.net>, on 10/24/97 at 11:44 AM,
**   donm@ftel.net said:

**>>>Stan Koper wrote:
**>>>> 
**>>>> Right now I'm getting downloads of about 3250 cps (is it
**>>>> cps or bps?), not 56k for sure, but 25% faster than my
**>>>> old 28.8 card.
**>>>> 
**>>>It's cps - Characters Per Second.  A 56K modem running at
**>>>its theoretical maximum of 56x1024 bps - Bits Per Second -
**>>>should be able to deliver 56x1024/10 = 5734 cps, assuming
**>>>1 start bit, 8 bit data, 1 stop bit, and no compression.
**>>>Bps is not the same as 'baud', which strictly is transitions per second. 
**>>>In the old days, a 300baud modem was 300bps,
**>>>since each transition was 1 bit.  Nowadays, the modems
**>>>encode 4 bits or more for each transition.

**>>>DM

**>PS....

**>My 28.8 running with SIO and a DTE rate of 115K got download  speeds of
**>3100-3300cps.....

**>Most internet providers think the 56K modem is one of the bigger jokes of
**>the computer history...

**>don.m
**>-----------------------------------------------------------
**>donm@ftel.net using Merlin and MR/2 ICE reg#114
**>-----------------------------------------------------------
**Yeah.   I have been reading this thread with some amazement.  I know
**that local phone lines are not much in most places, and that I am
**truly fortunate to live in a building that has just been rewired in
**fiber, but if you guys think that the modem is doing great at the
**above speeds, permit me to disagree.  No modem will overcome a poor 
**connection. 

**I am running a Zoom 28800 from an oem box (very cheap) and my
**carrier speed on ibm.net (granted they are superior to most) is
**consistently 28800, with the connect speed at 115200 ( also all the
**time).  Downloads are shown by the ibm dialer at up to 3300 
**(average) when everything is humming.  I did run the test on the USR
**bbs and it came in at a perfect connection so I am not surprised. 
**but you should get at least  5000 dl speed to justify the cost of
**the modem.

I get 3300cps downloads pretty consistently with the crappy old phone
lines that we have, using a 28.8K USR external. My other modem is
upgraded to 33.6K and it gets 3600cps most of the time.

I can't do 53K because of too many analog switches, but to tell you
the truth, 53K is not that great an improvement over 33K considering
the cost to me for the modem, to me for the detrimental effect on my
ISP having to support two stupid standards, and the aggravation of
having to put up with the world claiming we all should be celebrating
this tiny increase in speed. On top of all of that, its only one way,
so if you upload files and the like, no change at all. If I didn't
know better, I would swear that that criminal Gates is behind this
hype. :)

Nah, not worth it, if you ask me (I know, no one did <g>)

John
Re: Modem dl speeds was (Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4)
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Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#73
Author: zeus
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 00:00
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In <DtMT0UjRQE7f092yn@netcom.com>, skoper@netcom.com (Stan Koper) writes:
>I just picked up an internal Philips k56flex modem.  I have a
>dual boot system, Win95 and OS/2 4.0.  The modem set up under
>Win95 as Com3, Irq 10.  I have the SIO drivers under OS/2, and
>they don't recognize the modem *unless* I stop the boot at the
>white square and select full hardware detection.
>
>When it does work under OS/2 it's still com3 (since the
>motherboard has two serial ports), but the Irq is 7.  I haven't
>tried it under WinOS/2.
>
>What I'd like to know is, is it possible to establish full
>hardware detection *without* interrupting boot up?  Is there
>some line I can add to config.sys or is there some other process
>(like selective install) that I can use to get the modem
>recognized by OS/2?
>
>
>In article <342F3E86.4012@focus.winternet.com>,
>Trev Peterson <tpeterso@focus.winternet.com> wrote:
>>I am having problems with a Boca Office Communicator FDV34SVD PNP
>>fax/modem.  When the modem is in the mouse locks up in OS/2 V4.00.  I
>>checked this using Win95 to verify that it worked there and it did.
>>
>disable one of your comports if it is an internal modem
Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#58
Author: wellner
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 00:00
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In <637nse$qb0@tandem.CAM.ORG>, zeus@cam.org writes:
>In <DtMT0UjRQE7f092yn@netcom.com>, skoper@netcom.com (Stan Koper) writes:
>>I just picked up an internal Philips k56flex modem.  I have a
>>dual boot system, Win95 and OS/2 4.0.  The modem set up under
>>Win95 as Com3, Irq 10.  I have the SIO drivers under OS/2, and
>>they don't recognize the modem *unless* I stop the boot at the
>>white square and select full hardware detection.
>>
>>When it does work under OS/2 it's still com3 (since the
>>motherboard has two serial ports), but the Irq is 7.  I haven't
>>tried it under WinOS/2.
>>
>>What I'd like to know is, is it possible to establish full
>>hardware detection *without* interrupting boot up?  Is there
>>some line I can add to config.sys or is there some other process
>>(like selective install) that I can use to get the modem
>>recognized by OS/2?

If you go to the Properties setting of the Hardware Manager you can set for
full hardware detect.  (OS/2 System>System Setup>Hardware Manager and right click).

>>
>>
>>In article <342F3E86.4012@focus.winternet.com>,
>>Trev Peterson <tpeterso@focus.winternet.com> wrote:
>>>I am having problems with a Boca Office Communicator FDV34SVD PNP
>>>fax/modem.  When the modem is in the mouse locks up in OS/2 V4.00.  I
>>>checked this using Win95 to verify that it worked there and it did.
>>>
>>disable one of your comports if it is an internal modem
>
>



-------
Ed Wellner
Yes, these are my opinions, not those of the company I work for.
Re: Plug and Pray problems in Warp 4
#59
Author: Charlie Jager
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 00:00
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In message <63a458$qg0@interserv.etn.com> - wellner@pop.mke.etn.com
writes:
:>
:>In <637nse$qb0@tandem.CAM.ORG>, zeus@cam.org writes:
:>>In <DtMT0UjRQE7f092yn@netcom.com>, skoper@netcom.com (Stan Koper) writes:
:>>>I just picked up an internal Philips k56flex modem.  I have a
:>>>dual boot system, Win95 and OS/2 4.0.  The modem set up under
:>>>Win95 as Com3, Irq 10.  I have the SIO drivers under OS/2, and
:>>>they don't recognize the modem *unless* I stop the boot at the
:>>>white square and select full hardware detection.
:>>>
:>>>When it does work under OS/2 it's still com3 (since the
:>>>motherboard has two serial ports), but the Irq is 7.  I haven't
:>>>tried it under WinOS/2.
:>>>
:>>>What I'd like to know is, is it possible to establish full
:>>>hardware detection *without* interrupting boot up?  Is there
:>>>some line I can add to config.sys or is there some other process
:>>>(like selective install) that I can use to get the modem
:>>>recognized by OS/2?
:>
:>If you go to the Properties setting of the Hardware Manager you can set for
:>full hardware detect.  (OS/2 System>System Setup>Hardware Manager and right click).
:>
:>>>
:>>>
:>>>In article <342F3E86.4012@focus.winternet.com>,
:>>>Trev Peterson <tpeterso@focus.winternet.com> wrote:
:>>>>I am having problems with a Boca Office Communicator FDV34SVD PNP
:>>>>fax/modem.  When the modem is in the mouse locks up in OS/2 V4.00.  I
:>>>>checked this using Win95 to verify that it worked there and it did.
:>>>>
:>>>disable one of your comports if it is an internal modem
:>>
:>>
:>
:>
:>
:>-------
:>Ed Wellner
:>Yes, these are my opinions, not those of the company I work for.
:>


There are a couple things you can try.  First, if there are jumpers on
the modem for com port and irq make sure you have them set correctly.

If you have and OS/2 still doesn't recognize it, reboot with full
hardware detect and then look at the Hardware Manager.  Find out what
hexadecimal port address the modem is using, and what irq.  If these
aren't reflected in the hardware manager, bring up an OS/2 window and
type:

rmview/dc |more

then scroll through all of the details until you find the modem and
write down the port address and irq.  Next you can revise your com.sys
line in your config.sys file like this:

device=x:\os2\boot\com.sys (n,addr,irq)

n=com port
addr=port address
irq=irq

So if you want com3 at port address 3E8H to use irq 7, then type:

x:\os2\boot\com.sys (3,3E8,7)

This should work as long as nothing else is using this address and irq.
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