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Julie,

Check this out if you are looking for a cheap
solution. I just bought one and it works great.
Set-up in about 2 minutes and comes with
 a full version of Strata VideoShop. Paid $99
and it captures video via USB.
Good luck : http://www.xlr8.com/xlr8/frames/SubFrames/Products_sub.html

Joe

Julie Simpson wrote:

> Hi, I'm hoping someone can give me some advice.
>
> I'm looking for a cheap solution to bringing some non-digital (composite)
> video from my VHS player into my G3400, which a co-worker will then
> convert into some streaming video for me.  I've looked at some of the
> reviews of the Avid Cinema product, and Avid's page on the product, and
> they make it sound like I don't need an additional video card to use it
> with my Mac.
>
> Can anyone confirm that this is true?  If so, how do I input the video?  I
> can't use firewire, since the source video isn't digital in the first
> place.  Does Avid Cinema ship with some kind of adapter?
>
> I realise that there are a lot better solutions around for editing video,
> like Aurora Fuse and Miro Motion etc, but I'm looking for a _cheap_
> solution.  I don't aim to be doing a lot of video work after this one
> project.
>
> Any suggestion would be most welcome.
>
> TIA
>
> Julie
> --
> for email, the user name is ghostv and the domain is ozemail.com.au

In article <37B39656.E6BA03E5@rochester.rr.com>, jmesko1@rochester.rr.com wrote:

> Julie,
> 
> Check this out if you are looking for a cheap
> solution. I just bought one and it works great.
> Set-up in about 2 minutes and comes with
>  a full version of Strata VideoShop. Paid $99
> and it captures video via USB.
> Good luck : http://www.xlr8.com/xlr8/frames/SubFrames/Products_sub.html
> 
> Joe

Thanks Joe, it look very interesting.  I don't think it's a good long-term
tool, but it's exactly the kind of resolution etc that I was looking for.

Much appreciated. Ta.

Julie
-- 
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Julie Simpson wrote in message ...

>Thanks Joe, it look very interesting.  I don't think it's a good long-term
>tool, but it's exactly the kind of resolution etc that I was looking for.


I guess long-term depends on what you're planning to use it for long-term.
I have both the Avid Cinema USB  and the XLR8 Interview products.  Each has
its strengths and weaknesses, but I'd pick the Interview if I had to choose
only one.

Interview is more flexible in terms of how I can use it.  I can easily move
the footage into Premiere and work with it there.  I can use it in After
Effects as well.  Avid Cinema footage can be moved, but it's not quite as
simple because you capture in Avid's format and not in QuickTime.  The
software that comes with Interview (Strata VideoShop) is pretty good, and
you can upgrade to the latest version for under $100.

For my money, Interview is the way to go for low-cost capture and
manipulation for content targeted at the web.

Kent

By the way, for all of you that would like
to capture via the B&W built-in FireWire,
Strata VideoShop is compatible with
Quick Time 4.xx. I have a Cannon Elura
and using the Mac's built-in FireWire, have captured and
edited in VideoShop, without a single problem, not bad for $99.
So those of you looking for a FireWire based editor, compatible with
Quick Time 4.xx and no headaches, Strata VideoShop is the way to
go. I wish I could say the same for Premiere, and easier on your
wallet also. I have been very pleased with VideoShop. no crashes or
extension conflicts. Very easy to learn, great tutorials included.

Joe



Kent Kingery wrote:

> Julie Simpson wrote in message ...
>
> >Thanks Joe, it look very interesting.  I don't think it's a good long-term
> >tool, but it's exactly the kind of resolution etc that I was looking for.
>
> I guess long-term depends on what you're planning to use it for long-term.
> I have both the Avid Cinema USB  and the XLR8 Interview products.  Each has
> its strengths and weaknesses, but I'd pick the Interview if I had to choose
> only one.
>
> Interview is more flexible in terms of how I can use it.  I can easily move
> the footage into Premiere and work with it there.  I can use it in After
> Effects as well.  Avid Cinema footage can be moved, but it's not quite as
> simple because you capture in Avid's format and not in QuickTime.  The
> software that comes with Interview (Strata VideoShop) is pretty good, and
> you can upgrade to the latest version for under $100.
>
> For my money, Interview is the way to go for low-cost capture and
> manipulation for content targeted at the web.
>
> Kent

Joe,

I found your post really interesting.

I've been using Final Cut, but am looking for something simple like
Cinema to use with kids.  It's great to see a DV alternative, but
based on the screen shots from the web page the VideoShop interface
looks somewhat like Premiere, and not that simple.  Is it really
easier to use?

Also, according to the Strata site, VideoShop is QT 3 compatible, but
you say 4.  Is their site just old?  

Their on-line ordering page has the price at $495, with upgrades at
$89.  Can you get the full version for $99?

Thanks, 
Neil Poese

On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:31:51 -0400, Joseph Mesko
<jmesko1@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

>By the way, for all of you that would like
>to capture via the B&W built-in FireWire,
>Strata VideoShop is compatible with
>Quick Time 4.xx. I have a Cannon Elura
>and using the Mac's built-in FireWire, have captured and
>edited in VideoShop, without a single problem, not bad for $99.
>So those of you looking for a FireWire based editor, compatible with
>Quick Time 4.xx and no headaches, Strata VideoShop is the way to
>go. I wish I could say the same for Premiere, and easier on your
>wallet also. I have been very pleased with VideoShop. no crashes or
>extension conflicts. Very easy to learn, great tutorials included.
>
>Joe
>
>
>
>Kent Kingery wrote:
>
>> Julie Simpson wrote in message ...
>>
>> >Thanks Joe, it look very interesting.  I don't think it's a good long-term
>> >tool, but it's exactly the kind of resolution etc that I was looking for.
>>
>> I guess long-term depends on what you're planning to use it for long-term.
>> I have both the Avid Cinema USB  and the XLR8 Interview products.  Each has
>> its strengths and weaknesses, but I'd pick the Interview if I had to choose
>> only one.
>>
>> Interview is more flexible in terms of how I can use it.  I can easily move
>> the footage into Premiere and work with it there.  I can use it in After
>> Effects as well.  Avid Cinema footage can be moved, but it's not quite as
>> simple because you capture in Avid's format and not in QuickTime.  The
>> software that comes with Interview (Strata VideoShop) is pretty good, and
>> you can upgrade to the latest version for under $100.
>>
>> For my money, Interview is the way to go for low-cost capture and
>> manipulation for content targeted at the web.
>>
>> Kent
>

Neil,

I have Strata installed along with QT 4.01 and it
works great, there is an update readme on the Strata cd.
As far as the interface, its easy to learn and use. The online
documentation and tutorial is great. I have EditDv Unplugged,
and it was much easier to learn, and a better editor, more transitions,
you can have a "picture in a picture" and somewhat faster at rendering.
It's basically "drag and drop".Titles and text are somewhat basic, but the path editor
does a good job. Video playback is very smooth and the transitions are very smooth.
If you buy XLR8's Interview ( basically a USB based video capture unit ) it comes
with the full version of Strata VideoShop.
http://www.xlr8.com/xlr8/frames/SubFrames/Products_sub.html

Joe

Neil Poese wrote:

> Joe,
>
> I found your post really interesting.
>
> I've been using Final Cut, but am looking for something simple like
> Cinema to use with kids.  It's great to see a DV alternative, but
> based on the screen shots from the web page the VideoShop interface
> looks somewhat like Premiere, and not that simple.  Is it really
> easier to use?
>
> Also, according to the Strata site, VideoShop is QT 3 compatible, but
> you say 4.  Is their site just old?
>
> Their on-line ordering page has the price at $495, with upgrades at
> $89.  Can you get the full version for $99?
>
> Thanks,
> Neil Poese
>
> On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:31:51 -0400, Joseph Mesko
> <jmesko1@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >By the way, for all of you that would like
> >to capture via the B&W built-in FireWire,
> >Strata VideoShop is compatible with
> >Quick Time 4.xx. I have a Cannon Elura
> >and using the Mac's built-in FireWire, have captured and
> >edited in VideoShop, without a single problem, not bad for $99.
> >So those of you looking for a FireWire based editor, compatible with
> >Quick Time 4.xx and no headaches, Strata VideoShop is the way to
> >go. I wish I could say the same for Premiere, and easier on your
> >wallet also. I have been very pleased with VideoShop. no crashes or
> >extension conflicts. Very easy to learn, great tutorials included.
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >Kent Kingery wrote:
> >
> >> Julie Simpson wrote in message ...
> >>
> >> >Thanks Joe, it look very interesting.  I don't think it's a good long-term
> >> >tool, but it's exactly the kind of resolution etc that I was looking for.
> >>
> >> I guess long-term depends on what you're planning to use it for long-term.
> >> I have both the Avid Cinema USB  and the XLR8 Interview products.  Each has
> >> its strengths and weaknesses, but I'd pick the Interview if I had to choose
> >> only one.
> >>
> >> Interview is more flexible in terms of how I can use it.  I can easily move
> >> the footage into Premiere and work with it there.  I can use it in After
> >> Effects as well.  Avid Cinema footage can be moved, but it's not quite as
> >> simple because you capture in Avid's format and not in QuickTime.  The
> >> software that comes with Interview (Strata VideoShop) is pretty good, and
> >> you can upgrade to the latest version for under $100.
> >>
> >> For my money, Interview is the way to go for low-cost capture and
> >> manipulation for content targeted at the web.
> >>
> >> Kent
> >

In article <rr884ka3krl20@corp.supernews.com>, "Kent Kingery"
<kkingery@iglobal.net> wrote:

> I guess long-term depends on what you're planning to use it for long-term.
> I have both the Avid Cinema USB  and the XLR8 Interview products.  Each has
> its strengths and weaknesses, but I'd pick the Interview if I had to choose
> only one.

My foot in mouth - by "long term" I meant if I was trying to do more
serious video work as a professional.

> Interview is more flexible in terms of how I can use it.  I can easily move
> the footage into Premiere and work with it there.  I can use it in After
> Effects as well.  Avid Cinema footage can be moved, but it's not quite as
> simple because you capture in Avid's format and not in QuickTime.  The
> software that comes with Interview (Strata VideoShop) is pretty good, and
> you can upgrade to the latest version for under $100.
> 
> For my money, Interview is the way to go for low-cost capture and
> manipulation for content targeted at the web.

Well, based on the recommendations I purchased Interview product and it
arrived today.  I'm going away on business for ten days or so now, but I
look forward to trying it out on my return.

Many thanks to all who offered the advice.

Cheers

Julie
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In article <JulieSimpson-1308991316520001@slsdn39p18.ozemail.com.au>,
  JulieSimpson@notvalid.invalid (Julie Simpson) wrote:
> Hi, I'm hoping someone can give me some advice.
>
> I'm looking for a cheap solution to bringing some non-digital (composite)
> video from my VHS player into my G3400, which a co-worker will then
> convert into some streaming video for me.  I've looked at some of the
> reviews of the Avid Cinema product, and Avid's page on the product, and
> they make it sound like I don't need an additional video card to use it
> with my Mac.
>
> Can anyone confirm that this is true?  If so, how do I input the video?  I
> can't use firewire, since the source video isn't digital in the first
> place.  Does Avid Cinema ship with some kind of adapter?
>
> I realise that there are a lot better solutions around for editing video,
> like Aurora Fuse and Miro Motion etc, but I'm looking for a _cheap_
> solution.  I don't aim to be doing a lot of video work after this one
> project.
>
> Any suggestion would be most welcome.
>
> TIA
>
> Julie
> --
> for email, the user name is ghostv and the domain is ozemail.com.au
>

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