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"Recriminalize Gays" <anon@anon.anon> wrote in message 
news:85YLGW9940166.4980439815@reece.net.au...
> Kick their dirty disease carrying asses clear out of the state.
> Send them to a gay loving state who wants the loathsome creeps.
>
> http://www.q-notes.com/4632/james-police-de-infest-areas-where-
> gays-congregate/
>
> CHARLOTTE - Two area LGBT youth service and advocacy groups are
> condemning an anti-gay slur and other comments made by
> Republican Mecklenburg County Commissioner Bill James, and
> demanding an immediate reprimand of his actions at the Dec. 15
> commissioners meeting in which domestic partner benefits were
> approved for same-sex partners of county employees.
>
> The groups' strong statement comes as more comments from James
> are made public, including his assertion that police are working
> to "de-infest" areas where gays "congregate."
>
> On Dec. 17, the local Time Out Youth and national, Charlotte-
> based Campus Pride released a joint statement condemning James'
> comments following Democrat Commissioner Vilma Leake's personal
> and passionate story about her son's 1993 death to AIDS. After
> she spoke, James leaned over to her and asked, "Your son was a
> homo, really?"
>
> "Commissioner Bill James' remarks are nothing but intolerant and
> harmful to our area youth," said Steve Bentley, executive
> director of Time Out Youth. "There is no reason why a young
> LGBTQ person should have to hear such disdain and hateful
> rhetoric from a public official who is elected to represent
> them."
>
> Time Out Youth, founded in the early 1990s, is a support,
> services and advocacy organization for LGBT youth ages 13-23.
>
> Bentley added, "There are young people who are victims of
> depression and even suicide because of hateful slurs and
> comments like that of Commissioner James. Elected leaders are
> expected to be positive role models for our youth. We need to
> hold Commissioner James accountable for his actions."
>
> Campus Pride, a national organization for LGBT college students,
> released comments in the same statement.
>
> "Commissioner Bill James crossed the line with his anti-LGBT
> remarks. Once again, he has made a desperate bid for attention
> in a public board meeting at the price of others," said Campus
> Pride Executive Director Shane Windmeyer. "More and more, fair
> minded citizens believe that there's no place for this kind of
> bigotry. Commissioner James needs to apologize to Commissioner
> Leake for his comments and we demand an immediate reprimand for
> his abhorrent actions at the public meeting."
>
> Windmeyer said the repercussions of anti-gay language toward
> LGBT youth "are immeasurable." He said Mecklenburg County and
> Charlotte "deserve public officials who can show a modicum of
> respect for the office they hold and demonstrate civility for
> all people in public discourse."
>
> Bentley's and Windmeyer's organizations are demanding an
> immediate reprimand of James by the Mecklenburg County Board of
> Commissioners.
>
> The controversy surroundings James' comments has continued
> throughout the week as the GOP commissioner told media he would
> not apologize for his remarks. In a statement emailed to
> Charlotte Observer editorial staff, James said he was simply
> asking Leake to clarify her statements about her son, that his
> comments weren't meant to be derogatory and that "homo" was a
> slang word he used when growing up.
>
> "People can believe whatever they want, they can believe in the
> tooth fairy and legend of Atlantis," James said. "I don't
> determine what I do based on what people think. I determine it
> based on what I did and what I did was I asked a question and
> that question doesn't deserve or require an apology."
>
> Commission Chair Jennifer Roberts told Q-Notes that reprimand is
> an option on the table, although she's uncertain what that might
> look like.
>
> "I'm not sure what real disciplinary action we could take . what
> I think we can do is some kind of reprimand," she said. "I've
> got to think about the terminology to be used. We can make some
> kind of statement that clearly indicates this type of behavior -
> in terms of calling names in the public, on the microphone after
> a fellow commissioner has been so passionate and emotional - is
> inappropriate and sets a bad example and we will not tolerate
> it. That is the kind of thing we can do."
>
> Roberts added, "There are other terms - rebuke, reprimand. I'm
> not sure calling it something different has any different,
> practical effect."
>
> In an email to a Charlotte resident, James made the argument
> that homosexual behavior was still illegal, and that police are
> "de-infesting" areas where gays congregate.
>
> James wrote: "Homosexual conduct is illegal in NC (even after
> Lawrence V Texas). We arrest 250 homosexuals each year in
> Mecklenburg alone for either a 'crime against nature' or
> 'solicitation of a crime against nature'. Unlike prostitution
> (exchanging money), even suggesting homosexual sex is a criminal
> offense in NC. If we were all that 'progressive' would we be
> arresting 250 homosexuals a year? Setting up sting operations to
> de-infest areas where they congregate? Point is, if you want to
> delude yourself that homosexual conduct is 'ok' go ahead. The
> law, the police and the DA however have a different view."
>
> The Charlotte resident, who admits his initial email to James
> was a bit harsh, was shocked to see the commissioner's response.
>
> "I know my original e mail was harsh, but it was in no way
> threatening - I find his abusive, threatening, and ignorant,"
> the resident said in an email to Q-Notes.
>
> Q-Notes asked James about his use of the word "de-infest" and if
> he saw how it might be offensive to LGBT people.
>
> James responded: "I think that if you're someone who is
> homosexual and you believe that you are born that way and have
> every right to engage in that behavior, I think the offensive
> thing, I would surmise, is not the word 'infest' or 'de-infest'
> but the fact that the police are actually doing the sting
> operations. We can parse words - what phrase should I have used?
> But the central question for most people is not what particular
> term got used but whether the action was occurring. Was I
> accurate in saying there are these sting operations going on and
> those sting operations - whatever term you want to use - target
> homosexual men? That is why the county took and spent
> significant amounts of money to rework the park to take out
> certain landscaping things to prevent, once the sting operations
> cleared them out, prevent them from re-congregating - or re-
> infesting if you use my original term."
>
> James said he is a proponent of rigorous debate, but thinks LGBT
> rights opponents are "dancing around the subject" of the law.
>
> "When someone trots out Lawrence v. Texas, I trot out the arrest
> statistics," he said. "I say if Lawrence v. Texas is the law of
> the land, why are there all these arrests? And that ends the
> discussion usually."
>
> The Supreme Court's decision in Lawrence v. Texas (2003) struck
> down the use of "crimes against nature" laws to prosecute
> private sexual behavior between consenting adults, although it
> is still used in cases involving public sex, prostitution, child
> abuse and domestic violence, rape and bestiality. The "crimes
> against nature" law remains on the books in North Carolina and,
> despite the 2003 Supreme Court decision, has been incorrectly
> used to charge consenting adults engaging in private, sexual
> behavior.
>
>
>

Too bad we can't "de-infest" our country of all of these bigoted right-wing 
morons. 

In article <hghj7a$brj$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
 "Otto Graham's Cleats" <otto@cleats.org> wrote:

> "Recriminalize Gays" <anon@anon.anon> wrote in message 
> news:85YLGW9940166.4980439815@reece.net.au...
> > Kick their dirty disease carrying asses clear out of the state.
> > Send them to a gay loving state who wants the loathsome creeps.
> >
> > http://www.q-notes.com/4632/james-police-de-infest-areas-where-
> > gays-congregate/
> >
> > CHARLOTTE - Two area LGBT youth service and advocacy groups are
> > condemning an anti-gay slur and other comments made by
> > Republican Mecklenburg County Commissioner Bill James, and
> > demanding an immediate reprimand of his actions at the Dec. 15
> > commissioners meeting in which domestic partner benefits were
> > approved for same-sex partners of county employees.
> >
> > The groups' strong statement comes as more comments from James
> > are made public, including his assertion that police are working
> > to "de-infest" areas where gays "congregate."
> >
> > On Dec. 17, the local Time Out Youth and national, Charlotte-
> > based Campus Pride released a joint statement condemning James'
> > comments following Democrat Commissioner Vilma Leake's personal
> > and passionate story about her son's 1993 death to AIDS. After
> > she spoke, James leaned over to her and asked, "Your son was a
> > homo, really?"
> >
> > "Commissioner Bill James' remarks are nothing but intolerant and
> > harmful to our area youth," said Steve Bentley, executive
> > director of Time Out Youth. "There is no reason why a young
> > LGBTQ person should have to hear such disdain and hateful
> > rhetoric from a public official who is elected to represent
> > them."
> >
> > Time Out Youth, founded in the early 1990s, is a support,
> > services and advocacy organization for LGBT youth ages 13-23.
> >
> > Bentley added, "There are young people who are victims of
> > depression and even suicide because of hateful slurs and
> > comments like that of Commissioner James. Elected leaders are
> > expected to be positive role models for our youth. We need to
> > hold Commissioner James accountable for his actions."
> >
> > Campus Pride, a national organization for LGBT college students,
> > released comments in the same statement.
> >
> > "Commissioner Bill James crossed the line with his anti-LGBT
> > remarks. Once again, he has made a desperate bid for attention
> > in a public board meeting at the price of others," said Campus
> > Pride Executive Director Shane Windmeyer. "More and more, fair
> > minded citizens believe that there's no place for this kind of
> > bigotry. Commissioner James needs to apologize to Commissioner
> > Leake for his comments and we demand an immediate reprimand for
> > his abhorrent actions at the public meeting."
> >
> > Windmeyer said the repercussions of anti-gay language toward
> > LGBT youth "are immeasurable." He said Mecklenburg County and
> > Charlotte "deserve public officials who can show a modicum of
> > respect for the office they hold and demonstrate civility for
> > all people in public discourse."
> >
> > Bentley's and Windmeyer's organizations are demanding an
> > immediate reprimand of James by the Mecklenburg County Board of
> > Commissioners.
> >
> > The controversy surroundings James' comments has continued
> > throughout the week as the GOP commissioner told media he would
> > not apologize for his remarks. In a statement emailed to
> > Charlotte Observer editorial staff, James said he was simply
> > asking Leake to clarify her statements about her son, that his
> > comments weren't meant to be derogatory and that "homo" was a
> > slang word he used when growing up.
> >
> > "People can believe whatever they want, they can believe in the
> > tooth fairy and legend of Atlantis," James said. "I don't
> > determine what I do based on what people think. I determine it
> > based on what I did and what I did was I asked a question and
> > that question doesn't deserve or require an apology."
> >
> > Commission Chair Jennifer Roberts told Q-Notes that reprimand is
> > an option on the table, although she's uncertain what that might
> > look like.
> >
> > "I'm not sure what real disciplinary action we could take . what
> > I think we can do is some kind of reprimand," she said. "I've
> > got to think about the terminology to be used. We can make some
> > kind of statement that clearly indicates this type of behavior -
> > in terms of calling names in the public, on the microphone after
> > a fellow commissioner has been so passionate and emotional - is
> > inappropriate and sets a bad example and we will not tolerate
> > it. That is the kind of thing we can do."
> >
> > Roberts added, "There are other terms - rebuke, reprimand. I'm
> > not sure calling it something different has any different,
> > practical effect."
> >
> > In an email to a Charlotte resident, James made the argument
> > that homosexual behavior was still illegal, and that police are
> > "de-infesting" areas where gays congregate.
> >
> > James wrote: "Homosexual conduct is illegal in NC (even after
> > Lawrence V Texas). We arrest 250 homosexuals each year in
> > Mecklenburg alone for either a 'crime against nature' or
> > 'solicitation of a crime against nature'. Unlike prostitution
> > (exchanging money), even suggesting homosexual sex is a criminal
> > offense in NC. If we were all that 'progressive' would we be
> > arresting 250 homosexuals a year? Setting up sting operations to
> > de-infest areas where they congregate? Point is, if you want to
> > delude yourself that homosexual conduct is 'ok' go ahead. The
> > law, the police and the DA however have a different view."
> >
> > The Charlotte resident, who admits his initial email to James
> > was a bit harsh, was shocked to see the commissioner's response.
> >
> > "I know my original e mail was harsh, but it was in no way
> > threatening - I find his abusive, threatening, and ignorant,"
> > the resident said in an email to Q-Notes.
> >
> > Q-Notes asked James about his use of the word "de-infest" and if
> > he saw how it might be offensive to LGBT people.
> >
> > James responded: "I think that if you're someone who is
> > homosexual and you believe that you are born that way and have
> > every right to engage in that behavior, I think the offensive
> > thing, I would surmise, is not the word 'infest' or 'de-infest'
> > but the fact that the police are actually doing the sting
> > operations. We can parse words - what phrase should I have used?
> > But the central question for most people is not what particular
> > term got used but whether the action was occurring. Was I
> > accurate in saying there are these sting operations going on and
> > those sting operations - whatever term you want to use - target
> > homosexual men? That is why the county took and spent
> > significant amounts of money to rework the park to take out
> > certain landscaping things to prevent, once the sting operations
> > cleared them out, prevent them from re-congregating - or re-
> > infesting if you use my original term."
> >
> > James said he is a proponent of rigorous debate, but thinks LGBT
> > rights opponents are "dancing around the subject" of the law.
> >
> > "When someone trots out Lawrence v. Texas, I trot out the arrest
> > statistics," he said. "I say if Lawrence v. Texas is the law of
> > the land, why are there all these arrests? And that ends the
> > discussion usually."
> >
> > The Supreme Court's decision in Lawrence v. Texas (2003) struck
> > down the use of "crimes against nature" laws to prosecute
> > private sexual behavior between consenting adults, although it
> > is still used in cases involving public sex, prostitution, child
> > abuse and domestic violence, rape and bestiality. The "crimes
> > against nature" law remains on the books in North Carolina and,
> > despite the 2003 Supreme Court decision, has been incorrectly
> > used to charge consenting adults engaging in private, sexual
> > behavior.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Too bad we can't "de-infest" our country of all of these bigoted right-wing 
> morons. 

Who would provide all the jobs and tax money then?

"Recriminalize Gays" <anon@anon.anon> 
scribblednews:85YLGW9940166.4980439815@reece.net.au:

> Kick their dirty disease carrying asses clear out of the state.  
> Send them to a gay loving state who wants the loathsome creeps.

The more you protest something, the more likely you are to be that person, 
or have deep-seating guilt feeling about your private fantasis and 
thoughts.
That is why I think Bill O'Reilly is a child molestor, or failing that, 
feels guilty about viewing CP.  He rants and raves so much about it it's 
obvious.

Same thing with anti-homosexuals...oh, they just love "hazing" rituals 
where buff young men always seem to have to be stripped down, naked, 
urinated on, made to materbate and such.  Obvious homosexual desires in 
most college hazing rituals.


> Republican Mecklenburg County Commissioner Bill James, and 
> demanding an immediate reprimand of his actions at the Dec. 15 
> commissioners meeting in which domestic partner benefits were 
> approved for same-sex partners of county employees.
> 

What everyone is missing in this silly arguement is the discrimination that 
hetero marriages act against single people, much less homos.

I don't believe that any class, group or minority should get any 
preferential treatment, whether you're a woman, negro, illegal, crippled, 
diseased, illiterate, criminal or sexual orientation or class of 
partnership.
The only legal logical preferential treatment anyone should get in life is 
being a kid.  When you reach the age of reason, around 13, you should be 
treated as an adult, with all the adult responsibilities.

(In my vision of a logical society, kids at age 13 to 18 would get a 
choice; to step up to adult hood if they feel they're responsible enough 
and get an adult ID card, or set it aside until 18, when they are forced to 
become adults. Their choice until 18)

If you're going to discriminate against single men and women by giving 
preferential treatment to married couples, then why not discrimiate against 
gays, niggers, wops, jews, the elderly and those who look funny?  Legal 
discrimination is already legal, what with affirmative action, your 
marriage status and more.

Slippery slope.

I say, banish all slippery slope arguements! 

Its just that simple.


-- 
  Explanation of a Free Country:

Democracy is when 2 wolves and a sheep meet 
to decide who is for dinner.
Liberty is when the sheep has a gun.

"Ivan Skavinsky Skavar" <Ivan@borscht.com> wrote in message 
news:Ivan-F4E43F.11390419122009@news-wc.giganews.com...
> In article <hghj7a$brj$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "Otto Graham's Cleats" <otto@cleats.org> wrote:
>
>> "Recriminalize Gays" <anon@anon.anon> wrote in message
>> news:85YLGW9940166.4980439815@reece.net.au...
>> > Kick their dirty disease carrying asses clear out of the state.
>> > Send them to a gay loving state who wants the loathsome creeps.
>> >
>> > http://www.q-notes.com/4632/james-police-de-infest-areas-where-
>> > gays-congregate/
>> >
>> > CHARLOTTE - Two area LGBT youth service and advocacy groups are
>> > condemning an anti-gay slur and other comments made by
>> > Republican Mecklenburg County Commissioner Bill James, and
>> > demanding an immediate reprimand of his actions at the Dec. 15
>> > commissioners meeting in which domestic partner benefits were
>> > approved for same-sex partners of county employees.
>> >
>> > The groups' strong statement comes as more comments from James
>> > are made public, including his assertion that police are working
>> > to "de-infest" areas where gays "congregate."
>> >
>> > On Dec. 17, the local Time Out Youth and national, Charlotte-
>> > based Campus Pride released a joint statement condemning James'
>> > comments following Democrat Commissioner Vilma Leake's personal
>> > and passionate story about her son's 1993 death to AIDS. After
>> > she spoke, James leaned over to her and asked, "Your son was a
>> > homo, really?"
>> >
>> > "Commissioner Bill James' remarks are nothing but intolerant and
>> > harmful to our area youth," said Steve Bentley, executive
>> > director of Time Out Youth. "There is no reason why a young
>> > LGBTQ person should have to hear such disdain and hateful
>> > rhetoric from a public official who is elected to represent
>> > them."
>> >
>> > Time Out Youth, founded in the early 1990s, is a support,
>> > services and advocacy organization for LGBT youth ages 13-23.
>> >
>> > Bentley added, "There are young people who are victims of
>> > depression and even suicide because of hateful slurs and
>> > comments like that of Commissioner James. Elected leaders are
>> > expected to be positive role models for our youth. We need to
>> > hold Commissioner James accountable for his actions."
>> >
>> > Campus Pride, a national organization for LGBT college students,
>> > released comments in the same statement.
>> >
>> > "Commissioner Bill James crossed the line with his anti-LGBT
>> > remarks. Once again, he has made a desperate bid for attention
>> > in a public board meeting at the price of others," said Campus
>> > Pride Executive Director Shane Windmeyer. "More and more, fair
>> > minded citizens believe that there's no place for this kind of
>> > bigotry. Commissioner James needs to apologize to Commissioner
>> > Leake for his comments and we demand an immediate reprimand for
>> > his abhorrent actions at the public meeting."
>> >
>> > Windmeyer said the repercussions of anti-gay language toward
>> > LGBT youth "are immeasurable." He said Mecklenburg County and
>> > Charlotte "deserve public officials who can show a modicum of
>> > respect for the office they hold and demonstrate civility for
>> > all people in public discourse."
>> >
>> > Bentley's and Windmeyer's organizations are demanding an
>> > immediate reprimand of James by the Mecklenburg County Board of
>> > Commissioners.
>> >
>> > The controversy surroundings James' comments has continued
>> > throughout the week as the GOP commissioner told media he would
>> > not apologize for his remarks. In a statement emailed to
>> > Charlotte Observer editorial staff, James said he was simply
>> > asking Leake to clarify her statements about her son, that his
>> > comments weren't meant to be derogatory and that "homo" was a
>> > slang word he used when growing up.
>> >
>> > "People can believe whatever they want, they can believe in the
>> > tooth fairy and legend of Atlantis," James said. "I don't
>> > determine what I do based on what people think. I determine it
>> > based on what I did and what I did was I asked a question and
>> > that question doesn't deserve or require an apology."
>> >
>> > Commission Chair Jennifer Roberts told Q-Notes that reprimand is
>> > an option on the table, although she's uncertain what that might
>> > look like.
>> >
>> > "I'm not sure what real disciplinary action we could take . what
>> > I think we can do is some kind of reprimand," she said. "I've
>> > got to think about the terminology to be used. We can make some
>> > kind of statement that clearly indicates this type of behavior -
>> > in terms of calling names in the public, on the microphone after
>> > a fellow commissioner has been so passionate and emotional - is
>> > inappropriate and sets a bad example and we will not tolerate
>> > it. That is the kind of thing we can do."
>> >
>> > Roberts added, "There are other terms - rebuke, reprimand. I'm
>> > not sure calling it something different has any different,
>> > practical effect."
>> >
>> > In an email to a Charlotte resident, James made the argument
>> > that homosexual behavior was still illegal, and that police are
>> > "de-infesting" areas where gays congregate.
>> >
>> > James wrote: "Homosexual conduct is illegal in NC (even after
>> > Lawrence V Texas). We arrest 250 homosexuals each year in
>> > Mecklenburg alone for either a 'crime against nature' or
>> > 'solicitation of a crime against nature'. Unlike prostitution
>> > (exchanging money), even suggesting homosexual sex is a criminal
>> > offense in NC. If we were all that 'progressive' would we be
>> > arresting 250 homosexuals a year? Setting up sting operations to
>> > de-infest areas where they congregate? Point is, if you want to
>> > delude yourself that homosexual conduct is 'ok' go ahead. The
>> > law, the police and the DA however have a different view."
>> >
>> > The Charlotte resident, who admits his initial email to James
>> > was a bit harsh, was shocked to see the commissioner's response.
>> >
>> > "I know my original e mail was harsh, but it was in no way
>> > threatening - I find his abusive, threatening, and ignorant,"
>> > the resident said in an email to Q-Notes.
>> >
>> > Q-Notes asked James about his use of the word "de-infest" and if
>> > he saw how it might be offensive to LGBT people.
>> >
>> > James responded: "I think that if you're someone who is
>> > homosexual and you believe that you are born that way and have
>> > every right to engage in that behavior, I think the offensive
>> > thing, I would surmise, is not the word 'infest' or 'de-infest'
>> > but the fact that the police are actually doing the sting
>> > operations. We can parse words - what phrase should I have used?
>> > But the central question for most people is not what particular
>> > term got used but whether the action was occurring. Was I
>> > accurate in saying there are these sting operations going on and
>> > those sting operations - whatever term you want to use - target
>> > homosexual men? That is why the county took and spent
>> > significant amounts of money to rework the park to take out
>> > certain landscaping things to prevent, once the sting operations
>> > cleared them out, prevent them from re-congregating - or re-
>> > infesting if you use my original term."
>> >
>> > James said he is a proponent of rigorous debate, but thinks LGBT
>> > rights opponents are "dancing around the subject" of the law.
>> >
>> > "When someone trots out Lawrence v. Texas, I trot out the arrest
>> > statistics," he said. "I say if Lawrence v. Texas is the law of
>> > the land, why are there all these arrests? And that ends the
>> > discussion usually."
>> >
>> > The Supreme Court's decision in Lawrence v. Texas (2003) struck
>> > down the use of "crimes against nature" laws to prosecute
>> > private sexual behavior between consenting adults, although it
>> > is still used in cases involving public sex, prostitution, child
>> > abuse and domestic violence, rape and bestiality. The "crimes
>> > against nature" law remains on the books in North Carolina and,
>> > despite the 2003 Supreme Court decision, has been incorrectly
>> > used to charge consenting adults engaging in private, sexual
>> > behavior.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Too bad we can't "de-infest" our country of all of these bigoted 
>> right-wing
>> morons.
>
> Who would provide all the jobs and tax money then?

What your mom makes a night slinging her skanky ass around town could cover 
the nut, Ivan.

Besides, you use a fucking iJobs computer COMMIE BOY. Fucking socialists 
bastards. You DO know that for all of his so-called leftist ideals that 
iJobs just LOVES the Fabians, don't you?

It's like I've always said, the real commies and pinkos are hiding out in 
the right-wing of the Repubitard Party. Skull and Bones, Cecil Rhodes, the 
Fabians, Bush-Walker are "enlightened" right-wingers all.

If you were any kind of real American that loved his country at all, you'd 
be using Microscholk like most of us do. But then again, and apparent by 
your choice in computers, you're nothing more than a "'leftist tool."

Recriminalize Gays wrote:
> 
> The groups� strong statement comes as more comments from James 
> are made public, including his assertion that police are working 
> to �de-infest� areas where gays �congregate.�
> 

  This is how Wanker and his Butt pals ended up in Austin.

In article <hgkafo$lkb$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
 "Otto Graham's Cleats" <AutomaticOtto@browns.org> wrote:

> "Ivan Skavinsky Skavar" <Ivan@borscht.com> wrote in message 
> news:Ivan-F4E43F.11390419122009@news-wc.giganews.com...
> > In article <hghj7a$brj$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > "Otto Graham's Cleats" <otto@cleats.org> wrote:
> >
> >> "Recriminalize Gays" <anon@anon.anon> wrote in message
> >> news:85YLGW9940166.4980439815@reece.net.au...
> >> > Kick their dirty disease carrying asses clear out of the state.
> >> > Send them to a gay loving state who wants the loathsome creeps.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.q-notes.com/4632/james-police-de-infest-areas-where-
> >> > gays-congregate/
> >> >
> >> > CHARLOTTE - Two area LGBT youth service and advocacy groups are
> >> > condemning an anti-gay slur and other comments made by
> >> > Republican Mecklenburg County Commissioner Bill James, and
> >> > demanding an immediate reprimand of his actions at the Dec. 15
> >> > commissioners meeting in which domestic partner benefits were
> >> > approved for same-sex partners of county employees.
> >> >
> >> > The groups' strong statement comes as more comments from James
> >> > are made public, including his assertion that police are working
> >> > to "de-infest" areas where gays "congregate."
> >> >
> >> > On Dec. 17, the local Time Out Youth and national, Charlotte-
> >> > based Campus Pride released a joint statement condemning James'
> >> > comments following Democrat Commissioner Vilma Leake's personal
> >> > and passionate story about her son's 1993 death to AIDS. After
> >> > she spoke, James leaned over to her and asked, "Your son was a
> >> > homo, really?"
> >> >
> >> > "Commissioner Bill James' remarks are nothing but intolerant and
> >> > harmful to our area youth," said Steve Bentley, executive
> >> > director of Time Out Youth. "There is no reason why a young
> >> > LGBTQ person should have to hear such disdain and hateful
> >> > rhetoric from a public official who is elected to represent
> >> > them."
> >> >
> >> > Time Out Youth, founded in the early 1990s, is a support,
> >> > services and advocacy organization for LGBT youth ages 13-23.
> >> >
> >> > Bentley added, "There are young people who are victims of
> >> > depression and even suicide because of hateful slurs and
> >> > comments like that of Commissioner James. Elected leaders are
> >> > expected to be positive role models for our youth. We need to
> >> > hold Commissioner James accountable for his actions."
> >> >
> >> > Campus Pride, a national organization for LGBT college students,
> >> > released comments in the same statement.
> >> >
> >> > "Commissioner Bill James crossed the line with his anti-LGBT
> >> > remarks. Once again, he has made a desperate bid for attention
> >> > in a public board meeting at the price of others," said Campus
> >> > Pride Executive Director Shane Windmeyer. "More and more, fair
> >> > minded citizens believe that there's no place for this kind of
> >> > bigotry. Commissioner James needs to apologize to Commissioner
> >> > Leake for his comments and we demand an immediate reprimand for
> >> > his abhorrent actions at the public meeting."
> >> >
> >> > Windmeyer said the repercussions of anti-gay language toward
> >> > LGBT youth "are immeasurable." He said Mecklenburg County and
> >> > Charlotte "deserve public officials who can show a modicum of
> >> > respect for the office they hold and demonstrate civility for
> >> > all people in public discourse."
> >> >
> >> > Bentley's and Windmeyer's organizations are demanding an
> >> > immediate reprimand of James by the Mecklenburg County Board of
> >> > Commissioners.
> >> >
> >> > The controversy surroundings James' comments has continued
> >> > throughout the week as the GOP commissioner told media he would
> >> > not apologize for his remarks. In a statement emailed to
> >> > Charlotte Observer editorial staff, James said he was simply
> >> > asking Leake to clarify her statements about her son, that his
> >> > comments weren't meant to be derogatory and that "homo" was a
> >> > slang word he used when growing up.
> >> >
> >> > "People can believe whatever they want, they can believe in the
> >> > tooth fairy and legend of Atlantis," James said. "I don't
> >> > determine what I do based on what people think. I determine it
> >> > based on what I did and what I did was I asked a question and
> >> > that question doesn't deserve or require an apology."
> >> >
> >> > Commission Chair Jennifer Roberts told Q-Notes that reprimand is
> >> > an option on the table, although she's uncertain what that might
> >> > look like.
> >> >
> >> > "I'm not sure what real disciplinary action we could take . what
> >> > I think we can do is some kind of reprimand," she said. "I've
> >> > got to think about the terminology to be used. We can make some
> >> > kind of statement that clearly indicates this type of behavior -
> >> > in terms of calling names in the public, on the microphone after
> >> > a fellow commissioner has been so passionate and emotional - is
> >> > inappropriate and sets a bad example and we will not tolerate
> >> > it. That is the kind of thing we can do."
> >> >
> >> > Roberts added, "There are other terms - rebuke, reprimand. I'm
> >> > not sure calling it something different has any different,
> >> > practical effect."
> >> >
> >> > In an email to a Charlotte resident, James made the argument
> >> > that homosexual behavior was still illegal, and that police are
> >> > "de-infesting" areas where gays congregate.
> >> >
> >> > James wrote: "Homosexual conduct is illegal in NC (even after
> >> > Lawrence V Texas). We arrest 250 homosexuals each year in
> >> > Mecklenburg alone for either a 'crime against nature' or
> >> > 'solicitation of a crime against nature'. Unlike prostitution
> >> > (exchanging money), even suggesting homosexual sex is a criminal
> >> > offense in NC. If we were all that 'progressive' would we be
> >> > arresting 250 homosexuals a year? Setting up sting operations to
> >> > de-infest areas where they congregate? Point is, if you want to
> >> > delude yourself that homosexual conduct is 'ok' go ahead. The
> >> > law, the police and the DA however have a different view."
> >> >
> >> > The Charlotte resident, who admits his initial email to James
> >> > was a bit harsh, was shocked to see the commissioner's response.
> >> >
> >> > "I know my original e mail was harsh, but it was in no way
> >> > threatening - I find his abusive, threatening, and ignorant,"
> >> > the resident said in an email to Q-Notes.
> >> >
> >> > Q-Notes asked James about his use of the word "de-infest" and if
> >> > he saw how it might be offensive to LGBT people.
> >> >
> >> > James responded: "I think that if you're someone who is
> >> > homosexual and you believe that you are born that way and have
> >> > every right to engage in that behavior, I think the offensive
> >> > thing, I would surmise, is not the word 'infest' or 'de-infest'
> >> > but the fact that the police are actually doing the sting
> >> > operations. We can parse words - what phrase should I have used?
> >> > But the central question for most people is not what particular
> >> > term got used but whether the action was occurring. Was I
> >> > accurate in saying there are these sting operations going on and
> >> > those sting operations - whatever term you want to use - target
> >> > homosexual men? That is why the county took and spent
> >> > significant amounts of money to rework the park to take out
> >> > certain landscaping things to prevent, once the sting operations
> >> > cleared them out, prevent them from re-congregating - or re-
> >> > infesting if you use my original term."
> >> >
> >> > James said he is a proponent of rigorous debate, but thinks LGBT
> >> > rights opponents are "dancing around the subject" of the law.
> >> >
> >> > "When someone trots out Lawrence v. Texas, I trot out the arrest
> >> > statistics," he said. "I say if Lawrence v. Texas is the law of
> >> > the land, why are there all these arrests? And that ends the
> >> > discussion usually."
> >> >
> >> > The Supreme Court's decision in Lawrence v. Texas (2003) struck
> >> > down the use of "crimes against nature" laws to prosecute
> >> > private sexual behavior between consenting adults, although it
> >> > is still used in cases involving public sex, prostitution, child
> >> > abuse and domestic violence, rape and bestiality. The "crimes
> >> > against nature" law remains on the books in North Carolina and,
> >> > despite the 2003 Supreme Court decision, has been incorrectly
> >> > used to charge consenting adults engaging in private, sexual
> >> > behavior.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Too bad we can't "de-infest" our country of all of these bigoted 
> >> right-wing
> >> morons.
> >
> > Who would provide all the jobs and tax money then?
> 
> What your mom makes a night slinging her skanky ass around town could cover 
> the nut, Ivan.

Awww, that's cute.


> Besides, you use a fucking iJobs computer COMMIE BOY. Fucking socialists 
> bastards. You DO know that for all of his so-called leftist ideals that 
> iJobs just LOVES the Fabians, don't you?

I like Nazi cars too!

 
> It's like I've always said, the real commies and pinkos are hiding out in 
> the right-wing of the Repubitard Party. Skull and Bones, Cecil Rhodes, the 
> Fabians, Bush-Walker are "enlightened" right-wingers all.

Does it hurt?
 
> If you were any kind of real American that loved his country at all, you'd 
> be using Microscholk like most of us do. But then again, and apparent by 
> your choice in computers, you're nothing more than a "'leftist tool."

You fascists are always so angry at the unseen, all-powerful class which 
keeps you under the boot. Ever try looking in the mirror?

"Ivan Skavinsky Skavar" <Ivan@borscht.com> wrote in message 
news:Ivan-C21F2B.10354520122009@news-wc.giganews.com...
> In article <hgkafo$lkb$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> "Otto Graham's Cleats" <AutomaticOtto@browns.org> wrote:
>
>> "Ivan Skavinsky Skavar" <Ivan@borscht.com> wrote in message
>> news:Ivan-F4E43F.11390419122009@news-wc.giganews.com...
>> > In article <hghj7a$brj$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> > "Otto Graham's Cleats" <otto@cleats.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Recriminalize Gays" <anon@anon.anon> wrote in message
>> >> news:85YLGW9940166.4980439815@reece.net.au...
>> >> > Kick their dirty disease carrying asses clear out of the state.
>> >> > Send them to a gay loving state who wants the loathsome creeps.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.q-notes.com/4632/james-police-de-infest-areas-where-
>> >> > gays-congregate/
>> >> >
>> >> > CHARLOTTE - Two area LGBT youth service and advocacy groups are
>> >> > condemning an anti-gay slur and other comments made by
>> >> > Republican Mecklenburg County Commissioner Bill James, and
>> >> > demanding an immediate reprimand of his actions at the Dec. 15
>> >> > commissioners meeting in which domestic partner benefits were
>> >> > approved for same-sex partners of county employees.
>> >> >
>> >> > The groups' strong statement comes as more comments from James
>> >> > are made public, including his assertion that police are working
>> >> > to "de-infest" areas where gays "congregate."
>> >> >
>> >> > On Dec. 17, the local Time Out Youth and national, Charlotte-
>> >> > based Campus Pride released a joint statement condemning James'
>> >> > comments following Democrat Commissioner Vilma Leake's personal
>> >> > and passionate story about her son's 1993 death to AIDS. After
>> >> > she spoke, James leaned over to her and asked, "Your son was a
>> >> > homo, really?"
>> >> >
>> >> > "Commissioner Bill James' remarks are nothing but intolerant and
>> >> > harmful to our area youth," said Steve Bentley, executive
>> >> > director of Time Out Youth. "There is no reason why a young
>> >> > LGBTQ person should have to hear such disdain and hateful
>> >> > rhetoric from a public official who is elected to represent
>> >> > them."
>> >> >
>> >> > Time Out Youth, founded in the early 1990s, is a support,
>> >> > services and advocacy organization for LGBT youth ages 13-23.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bentley added, "There are young people who are victims of
>> >> > depression and even suicide because of hateful slurs and
>> >> > comments like that of Commissioner James. Elected leaders are
>> >> > expected to be positive role models for our youth. We need to
>> >> > hold Commissioner James accountable for his actions."
>> >> >
>> >> > Campus Pride, a national organization for LGBT college students,
>> >> > released comments in the same statement.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Commissioner Bill James crossed the line with his anti-LGBT
>> >> > remarks. Once again, he has made a desperate bid for attention
>> >> > in a public board meeting at the price of others," said Campus
>> >> > Pride Executive Director Shane Windmeyer. "More and more, fair
>> >> > minded citizens believe that there's no place for this kind of
>> >> > bigotry. Commissioner James needs to apologize to Commissioner
>> >> > Leake for his comments and we demand an immediate reprimand for
>> >> > his abhorrent actions at the public meeting."
>> >> >
>> >> > Windmeyer said the repercussions of anti-gay language toward
>> >> > LGBT youth "are immeasurable." He said Mecklenburg County and
>> >> > Charlotte "deserve public officials who can show a modicum of
>> >> > respect for the office they hold and demonstrate civility for
>> >> > all people in public discourse."
>> >> >
>> >> > Bentley's and Windmeyer's organizations are demanding an
>> >> > immediate reprimand of James by the Mecklenburg County Board of
>> >> > Commissioners.
>> >> >
>> >> > The controversy surroundings James' comments has continued
>> >> > throughout the week as the GOP commissioner told media he would
>> >> > not apologize for his remarks. In a statement emailed to
>> >> > Charlotte Observer editorial staff, James said he was simply
>> >> > asking Leake to clarify her statements about her son, that his
>> >> > comments weren't meant to be derogatory and that "homo" was a
>> >> > slang word he used when growing up.
>> >> >
>> >> > "People can believe whatever they want, they can believe in the
>> >> > tooth fairy and legend of Atlantis," James said. "I don't
>> >> > determine what I do based on what people think. I determine it
>> >> > based on what I did and what I did was I asked a question and
>> >> > that question doesn't deserve or require an apology."
>> >> >
>> >> > Commission Chair Jennifer Roberts told Q-Notes that reprimand is
>> >> > an option on the table, although she's uncertain what that might
>> >> > look like.
>> >> >
>> >> > "I'm not sure what real disciplinary action we could take . what
>> >> > I think we can do is some kind of reprimand," she said. "I've
>> >> > got to think about the terminology to be used. We can make some
>> >> > kind of statement that clearly indicates this type of behavior -
>> >> > in terms of calling names in the public, on the microphone after
>> >> > a fellow commissioner has been so passionate and emotional - is
>> >> > inappropriate and sets a bad example and we will not tolerate
>> >> > it. That is the kind of thing we can do."
>> >> >
>> >> > Roberts added, "There are other terms - rebuke, reprimand. I'm
>> >> > not sure calling it something different has any different,
>> >> > practical effect."
>> >> >
>> >> > In an email to a Charlotte resident, James made the argument
>> >> > that homosexual behavior was still illegal, and that police are
>> >> > "de-infesting" areas where gays congregate.
>> >> >
>> >> > James wrote: "Homosexual conduct is illegal in NC (even after
>> >> > Lawrence V Texas). We arrest 250 homosexuals each year in
>> >> > Mecklenburg alone for either a 'crime against nature' or
>> >> > 'solicitation of a crime against nature'. Unlike prostitution
>> >> > (exchanging money), even suggesting homosexual sex is a criminal
>> >> > offense in NC. If we were all that 'progressive' would we be
>> >> > arresting 250 homosexuals a year? Setting up sting operations to
>> >> > de-infest areas where they congregate? Point is, if you want to
>> >> > delude yourself that homosexual conduct is 'ok' go ahead. The
>> >> > law, the police and the DA however have a different view."
>> >> >
>> >> > The Charlotte resident, who admits his initial email to James
>> >> > was a bit harsh, was shocked to see the commissioner's response.
>> >> >
>> >> > "I know my original e mail was harsh, but it was in no way
>> >> > threatening - I find his abusive, threatening, and ignorant,"
>> >> > the resident said in an email to Q-Notes.
>> >> >
>> >> > Q-Notes asked James about his use of the word "de-infest" and if
>> >> > he saw how it might be offensive to LGBT people.
>> >> >
>> >> > James responded: "I think that if you're someone who is
>> >> > homosexual and you believe that you are born that way and have
>> >> > every right to engage in that behavior, I think the offensive
>> >> > thing, I would surmise, is not the word 'infest' or 'de-infest'
>> >> > but the fact that the police are actually doing the sting
>> >> > operations. We can parse words - what phrase should I have used?
>> >> > But the central question for most people is not what particular
>> >> > term got used but whether the action was occurring. Was I
>> >> > accurate in saying there are these sting operations going on and
>> >> > those sting operations - whatever term you want to use - target
>> >> > homosexual men? That is why the county took and spent
>> >> > significant amounts of money to rework the park to take out
>> >> > certain landscaping things to prevent, once the sting operations
>> >> > cleared them out, prevent them from re-congregating - or re-
>> >> > infesting if you use my original term."
>> >> >
>> >> > James said he is a proponent of rigorous debate, but thinks LGBT
>> >> > rights opponents are "dancing around the subject" of the law.
>> >> >
>> >> > "When someone trots out Lawrence v. Texas, I trot out the arrest
>> >> > statistics," he said. "I say if Lawrence v. Texas is the law of
>> >> > the land, why are there all these arrests? And that ends the
>> >> > discussion usually."
>> >> >
>> >> > The Supreme Court's decision in Lawrence v. Texas (2003) struck
>> >> > down the use of "crimes against nature" laws to prosecute
>> >> > private sexual behavior between consenting adults, although it
>> >> > is still used in cases involving public sex, prostitution, child
>> >> > abuse and domestic violence, rape and bestiality. The "crimes
>> >> > against nature" law remains on the books in North Carolina and,
>> >> > despite the 2003 Supreme Court decision, has been incorrectly
>> >> > used to charge consenting adults engaging in private, sexual
>> >> > behavior.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Too bad we can't "de-infest" our country of all of these bigoted
>> >> right-wing
>> >> morons.
>> >
>> > Who would provide all the jobs and tax money then?
>>
>> What your mom makes a night slinging her skanky ass around town could 
>> cover
>> the nut, Ivan.
>
> Awww, that's cute.
>
>
>> Besides, you use a fucking iJobs computer COMMIE BOY. Fucking socialists
>> bastards. You DO know that for all of his so-called leftist ideals that
>> iJobs just LOVES the Fabians, don't you?
>
> I like Nazi cars too!
>
>
>> It's like I've always said, the real commies and pinkos are hiding out in
>> the right-wing of the Repubitard Party. Skull and Bones, Cecil Rhodes, 
>> the
>> Fabians, Bush-Walker are "enlightened" right-wingers all.
>
> Does it hurt?
>
>> If you were any kind of real American that loved his country at all, 
>> you'd
>> be using Microscholk like most of us do. But then again, and apparent by
>> your choice in computers, you're nothing more than a "'leftist tool."
>
> You fascists are always so angry at the unseen, all-powerful class which
> keeps you under the boot. Ever try looking in the mirror?

You fascists? lol, Commie drooler, lol!