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I don't think that's what he's saying.  If I'm right, he's lucky he got
$100...
I have been know to be wrong...



"Diamond Dave" <sjester911@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:07:11 -0400, "news.vif.com"
<root@NoReply-AntiSpam.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Not only UPS lost my package, all the gave me was loosely $100 bux
> >for $900 package and fucken BS and squeeze way out not being any
> >insurance on the package.
>
> Lemme see if I follow this.....you shipped something via UPS, you insured
the
> package for at least its $900 value. Then UPS lost the package and they
will
> only pay you $100 for the loss? Is that what happened?

"Diamond Dave" <sjester911@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:07:11 -0400, "news.vif.com" <root@NoReply-AntiSpam.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Not only UPS lost my package, all the gave me was loosely $100 bux
> >for $900 package and fucken BS and squeeze way out not being any
> >insurance on the package.
>
> Lemme see if I follow this.....you shipped something via UPS, you insured the
> package for at least its $900 value. Then UPS lost the package and they will
> only pay you $100 for the loss? Is that what happened?
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         The way I read it is: he shipped a package "worth" 900.00$ but did
not add any extra ins. UPS lost it and only gave him 100.00$ because
that is the standard amount that comes automatically when you ship
UPS.  "IF" that's the case UPS may be the asses that lost it , but the
bigger picture is why didnt he insure it for the "full" amount. UPS's
ins. rates are very reasonable.  2 guilty parties here.



J

Diamond Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:30:20 GMT, "Jeff" <oldog@(nospam)mchsi.com> wrote:
> 
>>"Diamond Dave" <sjester911@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:m9r7l1lh6cfq65hco4lnicd0oevvuianbl@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:07:11 -0400, "news.vif.com" <root@NoReply-AntiSpam.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Not only UPS lost my package, all the gave me was loosely $100 bux
>>>>for $900 package and fucken BS and squeeze way out not being any
>>>>insurance on the package.
>>>
>>>Lemme see if I follow this.....you shipped something via UPS, you insured the
>>>package for at least its $900 value. Then UPS lost the package and they will
>>>only pay you $100 for the loss? Is that what happened?
>>
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>        The way I read it is: he shipped a package "worth" 900.00$ but did
>>not add any extra ins. UPS lost it and only gave him 100.00$ because
>>that is the standard amount that comes automatically when you ship
>>UPS.  "IF" that's the case UPS may be the asses that lost it , but the
>>bigger picture is why didnt he insure it for the "full" amount. UPS's
>>ins. rates are very reasonable.  2 guilty parties here.
No. Insurance, giving different story their wasn't
Bottom of the story i lost out $800 buxs.
> 
> 
> This is what I suspect also, but I wanted it claified with details from the OP.
> If this is the case, the OP caused his own loss by not insuring the package,
> the contract with UPS is plainly stated on many of their forms, their web site
> and in their store locations. Yeah, UPS screwed up by losing the pkg but
> the OP harmed himself by not insuring the pkg. 

Who fuck side are you on, seems your taking sides (UPS)
-- 

"news.vif.com" <root@NoReply-AntiSpam.com> wrote in message news:1129589847.678620@www.vif.com...

> >>>
> >>>>Not only UPS lost my package, all the gave me was loosely $100 bux
> >>>>for $900 package and fucken BS and squeeze way out not being any
> >>>>insurance on the package.
> >>>
> >>>Lemme see if I follow this.....you shipped something via UPS, you insured the
> >>>package for at least its $900 value. Then UPS lost the package and they will
> >>>only pay you $100 for the loss? Is that what happened?
> >>
> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>        The way I read it is: he shipped a package "worth" 900.00$ but did
> >>not add any extra ins. UPS lost it and only gave him 100.00$ because
> >>that is the standard amount that comes automatically when you ship
> >>UPS.  "IF" that's the case UPS may be the asses that lost it , but the
> >>bigger picture is why didnt he insure it for the "full" amount. UPS's
> >>ins. rates are very reasonable.  2 guilty parties here.
> No. Insurance, giving different story their wasn't
> Bottom of the story i lost out $800 buxs.
> >
> >
> > This is what I suspect also, but I wanted it claified with details from the OP.
> > If this is the case, the OP caused his own loss by not insuring the package,
> > the contract with UPS is plainly stated on many of their forms, their web site
> > and in their store locations. Yeah, UPS screwed up by losing the pkg but
> > the OP harmed himself by not insuring the pkg.
>
> Who fuck side are you on, seems your taking sides (UPS)
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------

                Neither,,,,, just an opinion as to what happened.


J

"news.vif.com" <root@NoReply-AntiSpam.com> wrote in message 
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>
>
> Diamond Dave wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:30:20 GMT, "Jeff" <oldog@(nospam)mchsi.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Diamond Dave" <sjester911@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:m9r7l1lh6cfq65hco4lnicd0oevvuianbl@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:07:11 -0400, "news.vif.com" 
>>>><root@NoReply-AntiSpam.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Not only UPS lost my package, all the gave me was loosely $100 bux
>>>>>for $900 package and fucken BS and squeeze way out not being any
>>>>>insurance on the package.
>>>>
>>>>Lemme see if I follow this.....you shipped something via UPS, you 
>>>>insured the
>>>>package for at least its $900 value. Then UPS lost the package and they 
>>>>will
>>>>only pay you $100 for the loss? Is that what happened?
>>>
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>        The way I read it is: he shipped a package "worth" 900.00$ but 
>>> did
>>>not add any extra ins. UPS lost it and only gave him 100.00$ because
>>>that is the standard amount that comes automatically when you ship
>>>UPS.  "IF" that's the case UPS may be the asses that lost it , but the
>>>bigger picture is why didnt he insure it for the "full" amount. UPS's
>>>ins. rates are very reasonable.  2 guilty parties here.
> No. Insurance, giving different story their wasn't
> Bottom of the story i lost out $800 buxs.
>>
>>
>> This is what I suspect also, but I wanted it claified with details from 
>> the OP.
>> If this is the case, the OP caused his own loss by not insuring the 
>> package,
>> the contract with UPS is plainly stated on many of their forms, their web 
>> site
>> and in their store locations. Yeah, UPS screwed up by losing the pkg but
>> the OP harmed himself by not insuring the pkg.
>
> Who fuck side are you on, seems your taking sides (UPS)
> --

You gambled by not insuring and you lost. No sides involved.

Ken

"news.vif.com" <root@NoReply-AntiSpam.com> wrote in message 
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> Not only UPS lost my package, all the gave me was loosely $100 bux
> for $900 package and fucken BS and squeeze way out not being any
> insurance on the package.
>
> Fucken idiots!
> --

If they lost the package, how are they supposed to know what was in it?
Next time, tell 'em it was worth ten grand for all the good it will do...
Sorry to hear of such an expensive lesson, but perhaps it will help the next
guy--spring for the insurance.

-has

"Jeff" <oldog@(nospam)mchsi.com> wrote in message 
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>
> "news.vif.com" <root@NoReply-AntiSpam.com> wrote in message 
> news:1129589847.678620@www.vif.com...
>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Not only UPS lost my package, all the gave me was loosely $100 bux
>> >>>>for $900 package and fucken BS and squeeze way out not being any
>> >>>>insurance on the package.
>> >>>
>> >>>Lemme see if I follow this.....you shipped something via UPS, you 
>> >>>insured the
>> >>>package for at least its $900 value. Then UPS lost the package and 
>> >>>they will
>> >>>only pay you $100 for the loss? Is that what happened?
>> >>
>> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >>        The way I read it is: he shipped a package "worth" 900.00$ but 
>> >> did
>> >>not add any extra ins. UPS lost it and only gave him 100.00$ because
>> >>that is the standard amount that comes automatically when you ship
>> >>UPS.  "IF" that's the case UPS may be the asses that lost it , but the
>> >>bigger picture is why didnt he insure it for the "full" amount. UPS's
>> >>ins. rates are very reasonable.  2 guilty parties here.
>> No. Insurance, giving different story their wasn't
>> Bottom of the story i lost out $800 buxs.
>> >
>> >
>> > This is what I suspect also, but I wanted it claified with details from 
>> > the OP.
>> > If this is the case, the OP caused his own loss by not insuring the 
>> > package,
>> > the contract with UPS is plainly stated on many of their forms, their 
>> > web site
>> > and in their store locations. Yeah, UPS screwed up by losing the pkg 
>> > but
>> > the OP harmed himself by not insuring the pkg.
>>
>> Who fuck side are you on, seems your taking sides (UPS)

Actually Both sides are wrong.  Friend is far more wrong than UPS is.

First, our friend:

He erred in not insuring the package. Insurance for the transportation of 
packages is very rarely declined, it's offered as
an extra cost item to protect expensive packages.  He signed a contract 
(Contract of Carriage) which states that the carrier
(UPS) will be limited to about $100.00 or what the limitation is set to. 
More requires insurance.  Simple fact of life in transportation. All courier 
companies (even FedEx) have the same rule.

The same thing holds true with airlines. If you're carrying $2500 worth of 
stuff in your luggage that can't be replaced, buy
insurance because the airlines will only provide you up to a certain amount, 
and it certainly won't be $2500.00.

He also erred in not keeping track of the package as it was moving through 
the UPS system. Quite easy to do in this
day and age of the Internet.  For a $900.00 item I would be sharp eyed, and 
check on it from time to time as it moves
through the system. If it had stopped for a long time and hasn't reached 
him, then I would backtrack.

One hopes he kept a copy of all documentation, he can probably still 
backtrack to find the last known location of it, but
he won't get $900.00 for his compensation. No way.

Second, UPS:

They erred in simply loosing the packages, but when you're handling 
gazillions of packages every day there's bound to be
at least a few of those lost. Perhaps the ingnoramous who was checking in 
the package for delivery didn't fill out the stickers
properly and perhaps didn't make sure they were stuck on solidly.  UPS 
probably offers insurance as an add on cost, but
they are not legally bound to do so. It's more of making money off the 
commission of the insurance offer, but the buyer gets
a bit of a piece of mind.

Then there's:

Did he clearly seal the package and set the documentation right? I always 
write the Bill of Lading (Waybill) Number clearly
on the front of the package in black in big letters and numbers so that the 
doltsthat handle it can see it. Did the stickers stick on the package right? 
If you lose those, then it causes problems. Those little stickers have your 
package number on them.  I've seen packages split open like an autopsy 
patient simply because the shipper didn't seal the package properly.

I've had packages misdirected,but was quickly able to find out where it 
ended up and had the carrier redirect it on their
own dime.

Also kept close tabs on the progress of other shipments as well. Like that 
$5 million worth of lumber I sent to Elkhart Indiana
a few years ago by railroad and truck.

Painful lesson, but lesson to be learned here for others. be very specific 
and precise when shipping, esp. when dealing with
someone through eBay.  Transportation has evolved so much for the shipper 
it's very easy to keep an eye on shipments
from the moment they leave the house or store.

Worked in claims and work in logistics for a transportation company, so I 
know my way around a cargo trailer and
sorting room.

And no contrary to popular belief,  the courier company sort guys do not use 
your package as a football playing as if they were making a long bomb in the 
fourth quarter of a 14-18 spread  imaginary football game at noon hour...