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Cure the causes - not the effects
#619
Author: thegarden
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 00:00
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Two of the main and on-going problems at the moment, is the shortage
of Nurses and IT workers.

 I remember in the early 1980's talking to many trainee Nurses, who
had recently qualified and there was no places for them.  An excess of
Nurses, more Nurses than jobs!  One such incident I remember vividly,
was talking to some quite distressed Nurses, who after 3 years
training, were to be sacked.  They said that it had been a waste of
time and what was the point, they would end up working in a factory.
After that time the Conservative closed down many of the training
facilities, which is a direct result of today's problems (and Labour
have done no better since).  What a state to get into.  So we have to
import Nurses from overseas.  A terrible indictment of failure of
Goverment

How can India, a relatively poor Nationm fund, an excess of IT
experts?  Once again the legacy of the Conservatives and followed by
Labour ineffectiveness.  So we have to import IT people from overseas

The fundamentals of problem solving is to eradicate the cause of the
problem, not just treat the symptoms.  OK, in the short term yes, but
I am waiting to hear from the Goverment, what they intend to do long
term.  Are we to continue in this manner forever?

This all stems from successive Governments failure to fund Education.
Other third world countries realise ecucation and training is
paramount, apparently not here in the UK and you can see the results.
It leaves me speechless.

Get courses going, give the students some cash, get people off the
dole and into college.  What, pray tell me is the point of giving work
to outsiders without solving the problem!  If you don't it will not go
away.

By the Governments own figures, 2.8 million people over the age of 50
have been forced from the workplace in the last 10 years.  Many are
ex-managers, many are highly qulified and could be retrained.  Utilise
the talents we have in this country, get cash into education.
Employing foreigners is not in itself not wrong, but let us address
the causes, in a timely manner.

Wake up Mr Governmet

Simon
...............................................
till the ground and make it furtile, then reap the harvest.  Don't buy
from producers overseas, because next year you have to do the same.
Re: Cure the causes - not the effects
#620
Author: anonymousj
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 00:00
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India is going to be a rival to Silicon Valley soon because it's governemnt
chose to invest heavily in this industry. The brightest Indians are
attracted to IT because it is a growing area, a well paid and well regarded
profession, along with the excellent chance of being recruited by overseas
companies.

As for the nurses, I remember shagging a nurse  moonlighting as a prostitute
in Nottingham. OK, so the shagging bit is exaggerated, but there were quite
a few nurses forced into prostitution (as well as other second jobs) because
of low pay.


<thegarden@shed.net> wrote in message
news:39eb2cfb.4215323@news.btinternet.com...
> Two of the main and on-going problems at the moment, is the shortage
> of Nurses and IT workers.
>
>  I remember in the early 1980's talking to many trainee Nurses, who
> had recently qualified and there was no places for them.  An excess of
> Nurses, more Nurses than jobs!  One such incident I remember vividly,
> was talking to some quite distressed Nurses, who after 3 years
> training, were to be sacked.  They said that it had been a waste of
> time and what was the point, they would end up working in a factory.
> After that time the Conservative closed down many of the training
> facilities, which is a direct result of today's problems (and Labour
> have done no better since).  What a state to get into.  So we have to
> import Nurses from overseas.  A terrible indictment of failure of
> Goverment
>
> How can India, a relatively poor Nationm fund, an excess of IT
> experts?  Once again the legacy of the Conservatives and followed by
> Labour ineffectiveness.  So we have to import IT people from overseas
>
> The fundamentals of problem solving is to eradicate the cause of the
> problem, not just treat the symptoms.  OK, in the short term yes, but
> I am waiting to hear from the Goverment, what they intend to do long
> term.  Are we to continue in this manner forever?
>
> This all stems from successive Governments failure to fund Education.
> Other third world countries realise ecucation and training is
> paramount, apparently not here in the UK and you can see the results.
> It leaves me speechless.
>
> Get courses going, give the students some cash, get people off the
> dole and into college.  What, pray tell me is the point of giving work
> to outsiders without solving the problem!  If you don't it will not go
> away.
>
> By the Governments own figures, 2.8 million people over the age of 50
> have been forced from the workplace in the last 10 years.  Many are
> ex-managers, many are highly qulified and could be retrained.  Utilise
> the talents we have in this country, get cash into education.
> Employing foreigners is not in itself not wrong, but let us address
> the causes, in a timely manner.
>
> Wake up Mr Governmet
>
> Simon
> ...............................................
> till the ground and make it furtile, then reap the harvest.  Don't buy
> from producers overseas, because next year you have to do the same.
>
Re: Cure the causes - not the effects
#621
Author: anonymousj
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:21
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India is going to be a rival to Silicon Valley soon because it's government
chose to invest heavily in this industry. The brightest Indians are
attracted to IT because it is a growing area, a well paid and well regarded
profession, along with the excellent chance of being recruited overseas by
international
companies.

As for the nurses, I remember shagging one  moonlighting as a prostitute
in Nottingham once. OK, so the shagging bit is exaggerated, but there were
quite
a few nurses forced into prostitution (as well as other second jobs) because
of low pay.


<thegarden@shed.net> wrote in message
news:39eb2cfb.4215323@news.btinternet.com...
> Two of the main and on-going problems at the moment, is the shortage
> of Nurses and IT workers.
>
>  I remember in the early 1980's talking to many trainee Nurses, who
> had recently qualified and there was no places for them.  An excess of
> Nurses, more Nurses than jobs!  One such incident I remember vividly,
> was talking to some quite distressed Nurses, who after 3 years
> training, were to be sacked.  They said that it had been a waste of
> time and what was the point, they would end up working in a factory.
> After that time the Conservative closed down many of the training
> facilities, which is a direct result of today's problems (and Labour
> have done no better since).  What a state to get into.  So we have to
> import Nurses from overseas.  A terrible indictment of failure of
> Goverment
>
> How can India, a relatively poor Nationm fund, an excess of IT
> experts?  Once again the legacy of the Conservatives and followed by
> Labour ineffectiveness.  So we have to import IT people from overseas
>
> The fundamentals of problem solving is to eradicate the cause of the
> problem, not just treat the symptoms.  OK, in the short term yes, but
> I am waiting to hear from the Goverment, what they intend to do long
> term.  Are we to continue in this manner forever?
>
> This all stems from successive Governments failure to fund Education.
> Other third world countries realise ecucation and training is
> paramount, apparently not here in the UK and you can see the results.
> It leaves me speechless.
>
> Get courses going, give the students some cash, get people off the
> dole and into college.  What, pray tell me is the point of giving work
> to outsiders without solving the problem!  If you don't it will not go
> away.
>
> By the Governments own figures, 2.8 million people over the age of 50
> have been forced from the workplace in the last 10 years.  Many are
> ex-managers, many are highly qulified and could be retrained.  Utilise
> the talents we have in this country, get cash into education.
> Employing foreigners is not in itself not wrong, but let us address
> the causes, in a timely manner.
>
> Wake up Mr Governmet
>
> Simon
> ...............................................
> till the ground and make it furtile, then reap the harvest.  Don't buy
> from producers overseas, because next year you have to do the same.
>
Re: Cure the causes - not the effects
#622
Author: John Mac
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:00
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I've seen nurses cleaning windscreens outside of the hospital they were
layed off from.
anonymousj <anonymousj@cityofgod.com> wrote in message
news:3OLG5.8120$oD.192446@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> India is going to be a rival to Silicon Valley soon because it's
governemnt
> chose to invest heavily in this industry. The brightest Indians are
> attracted to IT because it is a growing area, a well paid and well
regarded
> profession, along with the excellent chance of being recruited by overseas
> companies.
>
> As for the nurses, I remember shagging a nurse  moonlighting as a
prostitute
> in Nottingham. OK, so the shagging bit is exaggerated, but there were
quite
> a few nurses forced into prostitution (as well as other second jobs)
because
> of low pay.
>
>
> <thegarden@shed.net> wrote in message
> news:39eb2cfb.4215323@news.btinternet.com...
> > Two of the main and on-going problems at the moment, is the shortage
> > of Nurses and IT workers.
> >
> >  I remember in the early 1980's talking to many trainee Nurses, who
> > had recently qualified and there was no places for them.  An excess of
> > Nurses, more Nurses than jobs!  One such incident I remember vividly,
> > was talking to some quite distressed Nurses, who after 3 years
> > training, were to be sacked.  They said that it had been a waste of
> > time and what was the point, they would end up working in a factory.
> > After that time the Conservative closed down many of the training
> > facilities, which is a direct result of today's problems (and Labour
> > have done no better since).  What a state to get into.  So we have to
> > import Nurses from overseas.  A terrible indictment of failure of
> > Goverment
> >
> > How can India, a relatively poor Nationm fund, an excess of IT
> > experts?  Once again the legacy of the Conservatives and followed by
> > Labour ineffectiveness.  So we have to import IT people from overseas
> >
> > The fundamentals of problem solving is to eradicate the cause of the
> > problem, not just treat the symptoms.  OK, in the short term yes, but
> > I am waiting to hear from the Goverment, what they intend to do long
> > term.  Are we to continue in this manner forever?
> >
> > This all stems from successive Governments failure to fund Education.
> > Other third world countries realise ecucation and training is
> > paramount, apparently not here in the UK and you can see the results.
> > It leaves me speechless.
> >
> > Get courses going, give the students some cash, get people off the
> > dole and into college.  What, pray tell me is the point of giving work
> > to outsiders without solving the problem!  If you don't it will not go
> > away.
> >
> > By the Governments own figures, 2.8 million people over the age of 50
> > have been forced from the workplace in the last 10 years.  Many are
> > ex-managers, many are highly qulified and could be retrained.  Utilise
> > the talents we have in this country, get cash into education.
> > Employing foreigners is not in itself not wrong, but let us address
> > the causes, in a timely manner.
> >
> > Wake up Mr Governmet
> >
> > Simon
> > ...............................................
> > till the ground and make it furtile, then reap the harvest.  Don't buy
> > from producers overseas, because next year you have to do the same.
> >
>
>
Re: Cure the causes - not the effects
#623
Author: John Mac
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:00
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<thegarden@shed.net> wrote in message
news:39eb2cfb.4215323@news.btinternet.com...
> Two of the main and on-going problems at the moment, is the shortage
> of Nurses and IT workers.
>
>  I remember in the early 1980's talking to many trainee Nurses, who
> had recently qualified and there was no places for them.  An excess of
> Nurses, more Nurses than jobs!  One such incident I remember vividly,
> was talking to some quite distressed Nurses, who after 3 years
> training, were to be sacked.  They said that it had been a waste of
> time and what was the point, they would end up working in a factory.
> After that time the Conservative closed down many of the training
> facilities, which is a direct result of today's problems (and Labour
> have done no better since).  What a state to get into.  So we have to
> import Nurses from overseas.  A terrible indictment of failure of
> Goverment
>
> How can India, a relatively poor Nationm fund, an excess of IT
> experts?  Once again the legacy of the Conservatives and followed by
> Labour ineffectiveness.  So we have to import IT people from overseas
>
> The fundamentals of problem solving is to eradicate the cause of the
> problem, not just treat the symptoms.  OK, in the short term yes, but
> I am waiting to hear from the Goverment, what they intend to do long
> term.  Are we to continue in this manner forever?
>
> This all stems from successive Governments failure to fund Education.
> Other third world countries realise ecucation and training is
> paramount, apparently not here in the UK and you can see the results.
> It leaves me speechless.
>
> Get courses going, give the students some cash, get people off the
> dole and into college.  What, pray tell me is the point of giving work
> to outsiders without solving the problem!  If you don't it will not go
> away.
>
> By the Governments own figures, 2.8 million people over the age of 50
> have been forced from the workplace in the last 10 years.  Many are
> ex-managers, many are highly qulified and could be retrained.  Utilise
> the talents we have in this country, get cash into education.
> Employing foreigners is not in itself not wrong, but let us address
> the causes, in a timely manner.
>
> Wake up Mr Governmet
>
> Simon
> ...............................................
> till the ground and make it furtile, then reap the harvest.  Don't buy
> from producers overseas, because next year you have to do the same.
>

A very good point Simon
Re: Cure the causes - not the effects
#624
Author: The Doom Bringer
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:00
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Got nice tits, haven't they? And those uniforms, bloody marvellous!


"John Mac" <johnmac@image5812.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8sq3s5$5bm$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> I've seen nurses cleaning windscreens outside of the hospital they were
> layed off from.
> anonymousj <anonymousj@cityofgod.com> wrote in message
> news:3OLG5.8120$oD.192446@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > India is going to be a rival to Silicon Valley soon because it's
> governemnt
> > chose to invest heavily in this industry. The brightest Indians are
> > attracted to IT because it is a growing area, a well paid and well
> regarded
> > profession, along with the excellent chance of being recruited by
overseas
> > companies.
> >
> > As for the nurses, I remember shagging a nurse  moonlighting as a
> prostitute
> > in Nottingham. OK, so the shagging bit is exaggerated, but there were
> quite
> > a few nurses forced into prostitution (as well as other second jobs)
> because
> > of low pay.
> >
> >
> > <thegarden@shed.net> wrote in message
> > news:39eb2cfb.4215323@news.btinternet.com...
> > > Two of the main and on-going problems at the moment, is the shortage
> > > of Nurses and IT workers.
> > >
> > >  I remember in the early 1980's talking to many trainee Nurses, who
> > > had recently qualified and there was no places for them.  An excess of
> > > Nurses, more Nurses than jobs!  One such incident I remember vividly,
> > > was talking to some quite distressed Nurses, who after 3 years
> > > training, were to be sacked.  They said that it had been a waste of
> > > time and what was the point, they would end up working in a factory.
> > > After that time the Conservative closed down many of the training
> > > facilities, which is a direct result of today's problems (and Labour
> > > have done no better since).  What a state to get into.  So we have to
> > > import Nurses from overseas.  A terrible indictment of failure of
> > > Goverment
> > >
> > > How can India, a relatively poor Nationm fund, an excess of IT
> > > experts?  Once again the legacy of the Conservatives and followed by
> > > Labour ineffectiveness.  So we have to import IT people from overseas
> > >
> > > The fundamentals of problem solving is to eradicate the cause of the
> > > problem, not just treat the symptoms.  OK, in the short term yes, but
> > > I am waiting to hear from the Goverment, what they intend to do long
> > > term.  Are we to continue in this manner forever?
> > >
> > > This all stems from successive Governments failure to fund Education.
> > > Other third world countries realise ecucation and training is
> > > paramount, apparently not here in the UK and you can see the results.
> > > It leaves me speechless.
> > >
> > > Get courses going, give the students some cash, get people off the
> > > dole and into college.  What, pray tell me is the point of giving work
> > > to outsiders without solving the problem!  If you don't it will not go
> > > away.
> > >
> > > By the Governments own figures, 2.8 million people over the age of 50
> > > have been forced from the workplace in the last 10 years.  Many are
> > > ex-managers, many are highly qulified and could be retrained.  Utilise
> > > the talents we have in this country, get cash into education.
> > > Employing foreigners is not in itself not wrong, but let us address
> > > the causes, in a timely manner.
> > >
> > > Wake up Mr Governmet
> > >
> > > Simon
> > > ...............................................
> > > till the ground and make it furtile, then reap the harvest.  Don't buy
> > > from producers overseas, because next year you have to do the same.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Cure the causes - not the effects
#625
Author: Mr Mr
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 00:00
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Dirty sponging scums!



"John Mac" <johnmac@image5812.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8sq3s5$5bm$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> I've seen nurses cleaning windscreens outside of the hospital they were
> layed off from.
> anonymousj <anonymousj@cityofgod.com> wrote in message
> news:3OLG5.8120$oD.192446@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > India is going to be a rival to Silicon Valley soon because it's
> governemnt
> > chose to invest heavily in this industry. The brightest Indians are
> > attracted to IT because it is a growing area, a well paid and well
> regarded
> > profession, along with the excellent chance of being recruited by
overseas
> > companies.
> >
> > As for the nurses, I remember shagging a nurse  moonlighting as a
> prostitute
> > in Nottingham. OK, so the shagging bit is exaggerated, but there were
> quite
> > a few nurses forced into prostitution (as well as other second jobs)
> because
> > of low pay.
> >
> >
> > <thegarden@shed.net> wrote in message
> > news:39eb2cfb.4215323@news.btinternet.com...
> > > Two of the main and on-going problems at the moment, is the shortage
> > > of Nurses and IT workers.
> > >
> > >  I remember in the early 1980's talking to many trainee Nurses, who
> > > had recently qualified and there was no places for them.  An excess of
> > > Nurses, more Nurses than jobs!  One such incident I remember vividly,
> > > was talking to some quite distressed Nurses, who after 3 years
> > > training, were to be sacked.  They said that it had been a waste of
> > > time and what was the point, they would end up working in a factory.
> > > After that time the Conservative closed down many of the training
> > > facilities, which is a direct result of today's problems (and Labour
> > > have done no better since).  What a state to get into.  So we have to
> > > import Nurses from overseas.  A terrible indictment of failure of
> > > Goverment
> > >
> > > How can India, a relatively poor Nationm fund, an excess of IT
> > > experts?  Once again the legacy of the Conservatives and followed by
> > > Labour ineffectiveness.  So we have to import IT people from overseas
> > >
> > > The fundamentals of problem solving is to eradicate the cause of the
> > > problem, not just treat the symptoms.  OK, in the short term yes, but
> > > I am waiting to hear from the Goverment, what they intend to do long
> > > term.  Are we to continue in this manner forever?
> > >
> > > This all stems from successive Governments failure to fund Education.
> > > Other third world countries realise ecucation and training is
> > > paramount, apparently not here in the UK and you can see the results.
> > > It leaves me speechless.
> > >
> > > Get courses going, give the students some cash, get people off the
> > > dole and into college.  What, pray tell me is the point of giving work
> > > to outsiders without solving the problem!  If you don't it will not go
> > > away.
> > >
> > > By the Governments own figures, 2.8 million people over the age of 50
> > > have been forced from the workplace in the last 10 years.  Many are
> > > ex-managers, many are highly qulified and could be retrained.  Utilise
> > > the talents we have in this country, get cash into education.
> > > Employing foreigners is not in itself not wrong, but let us address
> > > the causes, in a timely manner.
> > >
> > > Wake up Mr Governmet
> > >
> > > Simon
> > > ...............................................
> > > till the ground and make it furtile, then reap the harvest.  Don't buy
> > > from producers overseas, because next year you have to do the same.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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