🚀 go-pugleaf

You are wrong sir!
My wife and I moved to Halifax from Vancouver 1 1/2 years ago. We came for 
a visit for a few weeks, and thought it was so nice we decided to live 
here.
Well, now after living here, we have decided to move back to Vancouver. My 
job is good here, so it's not a money thing. We DO find the people very 
small minded/small town. Politics are pathetic, It's very hard to do 
business here, where "profit" is a dirty word!
People here want to be thought of as a real city, but that's a joke! It's 
very rare you meet someone who DOESN'T drink, or gamble, or who doesn't 
think playing the 6/49 is a part time job. Trying to find a solid hard 
worker, who want's to work for the company instead of just their paycheck is a 
nightmare as well. So, I say if you want to be treated like a real city, 
act like a real city.


gman99@canada.com (gman) wrote in
news:a82f1ece.0311210349.3da8ffe@posting.google.com: 

> Ralphie is up to his old tricks...rambling on about how superior
> Alberta is. Gee, I wonder where we might be if we had exlcusive access
> to all the oil and gas Alberta has. Klein is almost as much of an
> idiot as dubya....not hard to wipe out a debt when your money comes
> spewing from the ground...
> 

On 21 Nov 2003, gman wrote:

> Ralphie is up to his old tricks...rambling on about how superior Alberta
> is. Gee, I wonder where we might be if we had exlcusive access to all the
> oil and gas Alberta has. Klein is almost as much of an idiot as
> dubya....not hard to wipe out a debt when your money comes spewing from the
> ground...

If I were Alberta, I wouldn't want to be NS - as far as economics goes
that is, which is what he was commenting on. Our economy sucks compared to
theirs. Also, the best approach here is "Who cares what Ralph Klein says". 

Cheers!
John

Oh yes,

So thats what happened to the set of Dukes of Hazard when it went off the
air, they moved it north and called it Alberta! :P

CoLoN pEe

"gman" <gman99@canada.com> wrote in message
news:a82f1ece.0311210349.3da8ffe@posting.google.com...
> Ralphie is up to his old tricks...rambling on about how superior Alberta
> is. Gee, I wonder where we might be if we had exlcusive access to all the
> oil and gas Alberta has. Klein is almost as much of an idiot as
> dubya....not hard to wipe out a debt when your money comes spewing from
the
> ground...

Perhaps you should rethink your point of view...

http://vancouver.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=bc_work20031119

A new study examining the quality of life across Canada has put B.C. near
the bottom of the list, saying there is a culture in the province that
forces a choice between work and family.

It found that employees in B.C. are more likely to be single, or blame work
demands for not having children.

Linda Duxbury of Ottawa's Carleton University who co-authored the report,
says all of the downsizing and restructuring in B.C. has created a lot of
mistrust.

"The data would suggest that many B.C. workers are cynical," she says."They
don't trust their employer. They don't believe their employer is serious
about anything they talk about in terms of balance."

Duxbury also says companies seem reluctant to adapt to one of the biggest
changes affecting our lifestyles - the aging population.

She says companies need to recognize that more workers than ever are caring
for elderly parents.

Along with B.C., Ontario fared the worst in the lifestyle survey.

Duxbury says she was surprised to find those who lead the most balanced
lifestyles live in Quebec and in Atlantic Canada.

The survey was carried out in 2001, and was sponsored by several B.C. family
groups, the United Way, UBC and VanCity Savings Credit Union.

"buddy" <buddyepsonsalts@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns943A53C886747buddyepsonsaltshotma@142.77.1.194...
> You are wrong sir!
> My wife and I moved to Halifax from Vancouver 1 1/2 years ago. We came for
> a visit for a few weeks, and thought it was so nice we decided to live
> here.
> Well, now after living here, we have decided to move back to Vancouver. My
> job is good here, so it's not a money thing. We DO find the people very
> small minded/small town. Politics are pathetic, It's very hard to do
> business here, where "profit" is a dirty word!
> People here want to be thought of as a real city, but that's a joke! It's
> very rare you meet someone who DOESN'T drink, or gamble, or who doesn't
> think playing the 6/49 is a part time job. Trying to find a solid hard
> worker, who want's to work for the company instead of just their paycheck
is a
> nightmare as well. So, I say if you want to be treated like a real city,
> act like a real city.
>
>
> gman99@canada.com (gman) wrote in
> news:a82f1ece.0311210349.3da8ffe@posting.google.com:
>
> > Ralphie is up to his old tricks...rambling on about how superior
> > Alberta is. Gee, I wonder where we might be if we had exlcusive access
> > to all the oil and gas Alberta has. Klein is almost as much of an
> > idiot as dubya....not hard to wipe out a debt when your money comes
> > spewing from the ground...
> >
>

It's funny. What you say is a direct contradiction to that report which 
was released this week from Carleton University, saying that Atlantic 
Canadians are the hardest working, most satisfied, yet lowest paid 
employees in the country.

http://www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2003/11/20/f107.raw.html

It is unfortunate that you didn't experience this aspect of the east 
coast. We certainly are not big city minded, nor do many of us want to 
be. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing all depends on your 
perspective, I guess.

As for Ralph Klein, I didn't take offense to what he said. I think any 
"have" province should be very thankful, and it isn't a bad thing to 
want to maintain a good economy and balanced books. I took his comments 
not as a slight to NS in particular, but rather expressing relief that 
Alberta wasn't in the same economic boat as NS.

wmd




buddy wrote:
> You are wrong sir!
> My wife and I moved to Halifax from Vancouver 1 1/2 years ago. We came for 
> a visit for a few weeks, and thought it was so nice we decided to live 
> here.
> Well, now after living here, we have decided to move back to Vancouver. My 
> job is good here, so it's not a money thing. We DO find the people very 
> small minded/small town. Politics are pathetic, It's very hard to do 
> business here, where "profit" is a dirty word!
> People here want to be thought of as a real city, but that's a joke! It's 
> very rare you meet someone who DOESN'T drink, or gamble, or who doesn't 
> think playing the 6/49 is a part time job. Trying to find a solid hard 
> worker, who want's to work for the company instead of just their paycheck is a 
> nightmare as well. So, I say if you want to be treated like a real city, 
> act like a real city.
> 
> 
> gman99@canada.com (gman) wrote in
> news:a82f1ece.0311210349.3da8ffe@posting.google.com: 
> 
> 
>>Ralphie is up to his old tricks...rambling on about how superior
>>Alberta is. Gee, I wonder where we might be if we had exlcusive access
>>to all the oil and gas Alberta has. Klein is almost as much of an
>>idiot as dubya....not hard to wipe out a debt when your money comes
>>spewing from the ground...
>>
> 
> 

buddy <buddyepsonsalts@hotmail.com> wrote:
> You are wrong sir!
> My wife and I moved to Halifax from Vancouver 1 1/2 years ago. We came
> for a visit for a few weeks, and thought it was so nice we decided to
> live here.
> Well, now after living here, we have decided to move back to Vancouver.
> My job is good here, so it's not a money thing. We DO find the people
> very small minded/small town. Politics are pathetic, It's very hard to do
> business here, where "profit" is a dirty word!
> People here want to be thought of as a real city, but that's a joke! It's
> very rare you meet someone who DOESN'T drink, or gamble, or who doesn't
> think playing the 6/49 is a part time job. Trying to find a solid hard
> worker, who want's to work for the company instead of just their paycheck
> is a nightmare as well. So, I say if you want to be treated like a real
> city, act like a real city.
>

Wrong about what ?? You seem not to mention that...anyway...don't let the
door smack ya in ass on your way out...

>
> It is unfortunate that you didn't experience this aspect of the east
> coast. We certainly are not big city minded, nor do many of us want to
> be. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing all depends on your
> perspective, I guess.

That's for sure...I'm of the opinion that Halifax is growing too fast too
quickly and we are in danger of being overwhelmed by 'progress'.

I'm not real fond of the crowds...never used to be that way...housing
prices through the roof, high rents....not good IMO.

"gman99" <gman99@NewsReader.Com> wrote in message
news:20031121091502.170$mT@newsreader.com...
> buddy <buddyepsonsalts@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > You are wrong sir!
> > My wife and I moved to Halifax from Vancouver 1 1/2 years ago. We came
> > for a visit for a few weeks, and thought it was so nice we decided to
> > live here.
> > Well, now after living here, we have decided to move back to Vancouver.
> > My job is good here, so it's not a money thing. We DO find the people
> > very small minded/small town. Politics are pathetic, It's very hard to
do
> > business here, where "profit" is a dirty word!
> > People here want to be thought of as a real city, but that's a joke!
It's
> > very rare you meet someone who DOESN'T drink, or gamble, or who doesn't
> > think playing the 6/49 is a part time job. Trying to find a solid hard
> > worker, who want's to work for the company instead of just their
paycheck
> > is a nightmare as well. So, I say if you want to be treated like a real
> > city, act like a real city.
       Hey hang on here buddy BOY... that's fighting words coming from an
IMPORT  from the west coast!!!!
       First, what you mean is that you no social skills, therefore you were
NOT accepted and MUST run to mommy and daddy...for a hug
       They don't drink or smoke on the west coast????  Give us a break...
there's as much "smokin and drinkin there"..
       Oh. in Vancouver they work for the glory and the cheque is
secondary.. what color is the SUN in YOUR world?????
       Maybe Atlantic Canadian, or better yet, HRM is much better off
without a small minded individual like yourself... go HOME and get a hug
from someone
       who loves you as we kind hearted "small town, ignorant, lazy, hard
drinking, smoking, 6/49 playing" people don't give a rat's ass about you!!!!

"wmd" <wmd55ca@NOSPAMyahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:3FBE1B78.8030401@NOSPAMyahoo.ca...
> It's funny. What you say is a direct contradiction to that report which
> was released this week from Carleton University, saying that Atlantic
> Canadians are the hardest working, most satisfied, yet lowest paid
> employees in the country.
>
> http://www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2003/11/20/f107.raw.html
>
> It is unfortunate that you didn't experience this aspect of the east
> coast. We certainly are not big city minded, nor do many of us want to
> be. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing all depends on your
> perspective, I guess.
>
Well I am yet to meet one person on their death bed that wished they worked
more during thier life instead of spending more time with friends and family
and actually living instead of working.....

CoLoN pEe

> As for Ralph Klein, I didn't take offense to what he said. I think any
> "have" province should be very thankful, and it isn't a bad thing to
> want to maintain a good economy and balanced books. I took his comments
> not as a slight to NS in particular, but rather expressing relief that
> Alberta wasn't in the same economic boat as NS.
>
> wmd
>
>
>
>
> buddy wrote:
> > You are wrong sir!
> > My wife and I moved to Halifax from Vancouver 1 1/2 years ago. We came
for
> > a visit for a few weeks, and thought it was so nice we decided to live
> > here.
> > Well, now after living here, we have decided to move back to Vancouver.
My
> > job is good here, so it's not a money thing. We DO find the people very
> > small minded/small town. Politics are pathetic, It's very hard to do
> > business here, where "profit" is a dirty word!
> > People here want to be thought of as a real city, but that's a joke!
It's
> > very rare you meet someone who DOESN'T drink, or gamble, or who doesn't
> > think playing the 6/49 is a part time job. Trying to find a solid hard
> > worker, who want's to work for the company instead of just their
paycheck is a
> > nightmare as well. So, I say if you want to be treated like a real city,
> > act like a real city.
> >
> >
> > gman99@canada.com (gman) wrote in
> > news:a82f1ece.0311210349.3da8ffe@posting.google.com:
> >
> >
> >>Ralphie is up to his old tricks...rambling on about how superior
> >>Alberta is. Gee, I wonder where we might be if we had exlcusive access
> >>to all the oil and gas Alberta has. Klein is almost as much of an
> >>idiot as dubya....not hard to wipe out a debt when your money comes
> >>spewing from the ground...
> >>
> >
> >
>

Good bye Buddy, glad I didn't meet you.      Hawk

"Colon Pee" <colonpee@colonpee.com> wrote in message
news:bpl55k$5rt$1@News.Dal.Ca...
> Oh yes,
>
> So thats what happened to the set of Dukes of Hazard when it went off the
> air, they moved it north and called it Alberta! :P
>
> CoLoN pEe
>
> "gman" <gman99@canada.com> wrote in message
> news:a82f1ece.0311210349.3da8ffe@posting.google.com...
> > Ralphie is up to his old tricks...rambling on about how superior Alberta
> > is. Gee, I wonder where we might be if we had exlcusive access to all
the
> > oil and gas Alberta has. Klein is almost as much of an idiot as
> > dubya....not hard to wipe out a debt when your money comes spewing from
> the
> > ground...
>
>


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Colon Pee wrote:

> 
> Well I am yet to meet one person on their death bed that wished they worked
> more during thier life instead of spending more time with friends and family
> and actually living instead of working.....
> 
> CoLoN pEe


I don't think that was the point of the article. In fact, I'd say the 
article talks about Maritimers' commitment to family and community, and 
our slower way of life, that helps us balance work with other things in 
our lives.

wmd

Buddy,

You could just as easily be describing British Columbia anywhere outside of the Lower Mainland.

buddy wrote:

> My wife and I moved to Halifax from Vancouver 1 1/2 years ago. We came for 
> a visit for a few weeks, and thought it was so nice we decided to live 
> here.
> Well, now after living here, we have decided to move back to Vancouver. My 
> job is good here, so it's not a money thing. We DO find the people very 
> small minded/small town. Politics are pathetic, It's very hard to do 
> business here, where "profit" is a dirty word!
> People here want to be thought of as a real city, but that's a joke! It's 
> very rare you meet someone who DOESN'T drink, or gamble, or who doesn't 
> think playing the 6/49 is a part time job. Trying to find a solid hard 
> worker, who want's to work for the company instead of just their paycheck is a 
> nightmare as well. So, I say if you want to be treated like a real city, 
> act like a real city.

On 21 Nov 2003 03:49:36 -0800, gman99@canada.com (gman) wrote:

>Ralphie is up to his old tricks...rambling on about how superior Alberta
>is. Gee, I wonder where we might be if we had exlcusive access to all the
>oil and gas Alberta has. Klein is almost as much of an idiot as
>dubya....not hard to wipe out a debt when your money comes spewing from the
>ground...

Was someone thinking of the illustrious Mr. Klein when they first used
the term "ralph" referring to someone tossing their cookies?

gwh

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:03:18 -0400, "Chris" <iwchris@hfx.eastlink.ca>
wrote:

>Perhaps you should rethink your point of view...
>
>http://vancouver.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=bc_work20031119
>
>A new study examining the quality of life across Canada has put B.C. near
>the bottom of the list, saying there is a culture in the province that
>forces a choice between work and family.
>
>It found that employees in B.C. are more likely to be single, or blame work
>demands for not having children.
>
>Linda Duxbury of Ottawa's Carleton University who co-authored the report,
>says all of the downsizing and restructuring in B.C. has created a lot of
>mistrust.
>
>"The data would suggest that many B.C. workers are cynical," she says."They
>don't trust their employer. They don't believe their employer is serious
>about anything they talk about in terms of balance."
>
>Duxbury also says companies seem reluctant to adapt to one of the biggest
>changes affecting our lifestyles - the aging population.
>
>She says companies need to recognize that more workers than ever are caring
>for elderly parents.
>
>Along with B.C., Ontario fared the worst in the lifestyle survey.
>
>Duxbury says she was surprised to find those who lead the most balanced
>lifestyles live in Quebec and in Atlantic Canada.
>
>The survey was carried out in 2001, and was sponsored by several B.C. family
>groups, the United Way, UBC and VanCity Savings Credit Union.


Ontario huh? Could it be because the salaries in Ontario are so good
that no one wants to stay home or have children...doubt me, have a
look....even in oil rich alberta NO government employees can even
touch this kind of salary (except for the Mayors and Councils in the
Cities of Edmonton and Calgary after using the excuse that they did
not make as much money as the Mayor of Toronto and they should). Maybe
it is time for all the government employees in the province of Alberta
to demand that they make as much as those employed in Ontario.


http://www.gov.on.ca/FIN/english/salarydisclosure/2003/ontpub03.htm

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:05:01 GMT, wmd <wmd55ca@NOSPAMyahoo.ca> wrote:

>It's funny. What you say is a direct contradiction to that report which 
>was released this week from Carleton University, saying that Atlantic 
>Canadians are the hardest working, most satisfied, yet lowest paid 
>employees in the country.
>
>http://www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2003/11/20/f107.raw.html
>
>It is unfortunate that you didn't experience this aspect of the east 
>coast. We certainly are not big city minded, nor do many of us want to 
>be. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing all depends on your 
>perspective, I guess.
>
>As for Ralph Klein, I didn't take offense to what he said. I think any 
>"have" province should be very thankful, and it isn't a bad thing to 
>want to maintain a good economy and balanced books. I took his comments 
>not as a slight to NS in particular, but rather expressing relief that 
>Alberta wasn't in the same economic boat as NS.

Actually it is worse for the people who actually live here because we
don't even get to share in the wealth.  Alberta may be an oil rich,
money rich province but believe me when I say that the money does not
seem to make it past Ralph Klien. I recently had a fellow who is
originally from Ontario tell me that it was time for him to go home.
He said that when he came out here 13 years ago things were cheaper
but now when he goes home to visit his mother in Ontario even Alberta
beef is cheaper to buy there than in the province it is grown,
Alberta. Even our salaries don't come anywhere near what public
employees in Ontario are making. Not sure,then go to the Alberta web
site and have a look for yourself. Ninety nine percent of the jobs pay
well under 100,000 dollars, even the managers. House taxes have gone
through the roof since Bill Smith became Mayor and services that we
should be getting for this money have been cut back so often that in
actual fact we don't even get any services. On top of that we have
huge user fees and now even have to pay for storm run off...imagine,
we have to pay for run off when it rains or snows.  There is more but
I think you get the picture. It is called GREED.
>
>wmd
>
>
>
>
>buddy wrote:
>> You are wrong sir!
>> My wife and I moved to Halifax from Vancouver 1 1/2 years ago. We came for 
>> a visit for a few weeks, and thought it was so nice we decided to live 
>> here.
>> Well, now after living here, we have decided to move back to Vancouver. My 
>> job is good here, so it's not a money thing. We DO find the people very 
>> small minded/small town. Politics are pathetic, It's very hard to do 
>> business here, where "profit" is a dirty word!
>> People here want to be thought of as a real city, but that's a joke! It's 
>> very rare you meet someone who DOESN'T drink, or gamble, or who doesn't 
>> think playing the 6/49 is a part time job. Trying to find a solid hard 
>> worker, who want's to work for the company instead of just their paycheck is a 
>> nightmare as well. So, I say if you want to be treated like a real city, 
>> act like a real city.
>> 
>> 
>> gman99@canada.com (gman) wrote in
>> news:a82f1ece.0311210349.3da8ffe@posting.google.com: 
>> 
>> 
>>>Ralphie is up to his old tricks...rambling on about how superior
>>>Alberta is. Gee, I wonder where we might be if we had exlcusive access
>>>to all the oil and gas Alberta has. Klein is almost as much of an
>>>idiot as dubya....not hard to wipe out a debt when your money comes
>>>spewing from the ground...
>>>
>> 
>> 

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:32:27 -0400, John van Gurp <jvg@chebucto.ns.ca>
wrote:

>
>
>On 21 Nov 2003, gman wrote:
>
>> Ralphie is up to his old tricks...rambling on about how superior Alberta
>> is. Gee, I wonder where we might be if we had exlcusive access to all the
>> oil and gas Alberta has. Klein is almost as much of an idiot as
>> dubya....not hard to wipe out a debt when your money comes spewing from the
>> ground...
>
>If I were Alberta, I wouldn't want to be NS - as far as economics goes
>that is, which is what he was commenting on. Our economy sucks compared to
>theirs. Also, the best approach here is "Who cares what Ralph Klein says". 

If life is so good here in Alberta then why are the people who live
here so fed up with high taxes and user fees. You should read some of
the articles that the papers have written about people being fed up. 
So, where is all this money Ralph Klien keeps talking about? Must be
in all those slush funds that this government likes to create. Sure as
heck the people who live and work so hard in this province have not
seen it. It is the people that live in this province and continue to
pay higher house taxes and user fees that make the province work,
certainly not the money the government is making off of oil revenue
and gambling.   



 
>
>Cheers!
>John
>

Well, for myself the heart lies in Manitoba and Alberta. Given the
chance, I would go back, if I could. I'm from the prairies. But I have
read something on the Calgary Herald that really pissed me off: SAIT
(Southern Alberta Instittue of Technology) was going to roll back
wages for all non-unionized cafeteria emlployees back by 3.50 per
hour!

You read right! So instead of making 9.75, they'd be making ONE CENT
more than minimum wage.

Makes me sick reading that. I hope the director of S.A.I.T. has a
career-wakeup, and discovers what plight these poor workers are in.

][sildur's Bane


"Adventure makes the soul grow bold at the thought of danger"


On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 07:49:41 GMT, Duh <duh!@home.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:03:18 -0400, "Chris" <iwchris@hfx.eastlink.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>Perhaps you should rethink your point of view...
>>
>>http://vancouver.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=bc_work20031119
>>
>>A new study examining the quality of life across Canada has put B.C. near
>>the bottom of the list, saying there is a culture in the province that
>>forces a choice between work and family.
>>
>>It found that employees in B.C. are more likely to be single, or blame work
>>demands for not having children.
>>
[SNIP]

> 
> That's for sure...I'm of the opinion that Halifax is growing too fast too
> quickly and we are in danger of being overwhelmed by 'progress'.
> 
> I'm not real fond of the crowds...never used to be that way...housing
> prices through the roof, high rents....not good IMO.

Bigness does not equate with progress. There is little real progress
in the city, or the region. It's same ole, same ole. And in Halifax,
even the bigness is suspect. Oner wonders just how many ugly three
story walkups can exist on one planet.

> 
> Wrong about what ?? You seem not to mention that...anyway...don't let the
> door smack ya in ass on your way out...


Typical of the Tennessee Hills and Backwater Nova Scotia. Grow up and
listen to the people who take the trouble to point out to you what is
wrong.