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r_obert@REMOVE_THIS.hotmail.com wrote:
: Good ol' Milwaukee, using Lake Michigan as their personal toilet
: again.  Exact repeat of last spring.  Over 100 million gallons on 4
: separate occasions last year.  21 million gallons this time.

: Milwaukee - the habitual offender.  More than 13 billion gallons of
: untreated wastewater dumped into Lake Michigan since 1993, and
: growing.  Nice new baseball stadium for them, though.  Lawsuit way
: overdue, IMO.

: Robert

Well, we don't have too much room to talk. We illegally redirected 300,000
cfs of Lake Michigan water for years at times to flush our sewage to St Louis.

When the locks went up Lockport, Joilet and other cities along the lower end
of the river sued because the stench was so great, they were unable to remain
in their homes in the summer. Those in that area that don't get Lake Michigan 
water, are part of a pipeline project that comes out of the Kankakee basin 
because we've polluted their groundwater with our toilets.

As I'm sure you had read, the case was headed to the U.S. Supreme Court. 
Fearing a court loss, the Canal officials dynomited open the canal on New Years
Day. Once the canal was open, engineeringly speaking, the only way to really
stop it was to re-dig, grading it the other way, making it nearly impossible 
to correct.

I'm sure St Louis appreciates that we send our sewage to them as thats where 
thier drinking water comes from... our toilets. Remember if your ever in Alton,
they are the first city the EPA allowed to draw drinking water from the 
Illinois after Chicago reversed the flow of the south branch to make our 
sewage flow away from the lake.

By 2018 all drinking water will be sourced from treated effluence,
unfortunately, there won't be enough effluence to go around...

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jwn@ripco.com (Chicago Paddling-Fishing) wrote:

>r_obert@REMOVE_THIS.hotmail.com wrote:
>: Good ol' Milwaukee, using Lake Michigan as their personal toilet
>: again.  Exact repeat of last spring.  Over 100 million gallons on 4
>: separate occasions last year.  21 million gallons this time.
>
>: Milwaukee - the habitual offender.  More than 13 billion gallons of
>: untreated wastewater dumped into Lake Michigan since 1993, and
>: growing.  Nice new baseball stadium for them, though.  Lawsuit way
>: overdue, IMO.
>
>: Robert
>
>Well, we don't have too much room to talk. We illegally redirected 300,000
>cfs of Lake Michigan water for years at times to flush our sewage to St Louis.

I suspect there are places throughout the lakes where similiar effects
are occuring, unfortunately.  

Regards,

Robert

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> Good ol' Milwaukee, using Lake Michigan as their personal toilet
> again.  Exact repeat of last spring.  Over 100 million gallons on 4
> separate occasions last year.  21 million gallons this time.
>
> Milwaukee - the habitual offender.  More than 13 billion gallons of
> untreated wastewater dumped into Lake Michigan since 1993, and
> growing.  Nice new baseball stadium for them, though.  Lawsuit way
> overdue, IMO.
>
> Robert
>

Have you smelled the Chicago River lately? I can't even describe the
horrific smell that shit hole gives off. Specifically the North section,
when I ride my bike over in the morning (around Devon). What gets me is that
there are people in canoes on this thing. Hope they eat a lot of broccoli!

Dan J.S. (me@hyperx.com) wrote:


: > Good ol' Milwaukee, using Lake Michigan as their personal toilet
: > again.  Exact repeat of last spring.  Over 100 million gallons on 4
: > separate occasions last year.  21 million gallons this time.
: >
: > Milwaukee - the habitual offender.  More than 13 billion gallons of
: > untreated wastewater dumped into Lake Michigan since 1993, and
: > growing.  Nice new baseball stadium for them, though.  Lawsuit way
: > overdue, IMO.
: >
: > Robert
: >

: Have you smelled the Chicago River lately? I can't even describe the
: horrific smell that shit hole gives off. Specifically the North section,
: when I ride my bike over in the morning (around Devon). What gets me is that
: there are people in canoes on this thing. Hope they eat a lot of broccoli!


Well, used to be, every third day on average that they had to dump raw sewage
into the river (thats average for an entire year). Now adays with the deep 
tunnel, they manage to average 12 days before releasing raw sewage into the
river, so it is a bit cleaner than it was.

Lots of people think that because fish are returning that it's cleaner, but
in reality, it's because clorinated discharge is illegal now (fish really
don't like swiming in clorinated water). So there is lots of wildlife returning
to the river and it gets dumped in less often than it used to.

The cleanest place on the Chicago is near the Chicago Harbor Lock downtown
as there is no industrial discharge, and it draws in freshwater from the 
Lake.

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John Nelson
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