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Article #382Re: Dualism
From: David Chalmers
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:38
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:38
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In article <1992Sep14.013025.26710@sophia.smith.edu> orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke) writes: > chalmers@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (David Chalmers) writes: > >>Not so with consciousness: even when >>you've told the whole story about behaviour and its physical causation, >>there still seems to be a vast explanatory gap between that and >>the phenomenon of consciousness itself. > >This "seems to be" is controversial: Dennett in particular questions >the vastness of the gap (in "Consciousness Explained"). Sadly, Dennett's arguments don't come to much. He invokes an analogy with "life" that misses the point entirely -- *of course* there is no further fact with life that needs explanation, as the phenomena in question all present themselves to us as behavioural facts and functional capacities, from a third-person point of view. The analogy with life can take you as far as "mind from the point of view of cognitive science" -- i.e. mind as the causation of behaviour -- but it doesn't begin to touch on the unique first-person experience that's in question. The remainder of Dennett's arguments come down to the dogma that once one has explained our behavioural capacities, including our capacity to discriminate environmental stimuli, and our capacity to produce verbal reports of our mental states, then one has explained everything -- there's simply nothing more that could need explaining. But this is simply ducking the big question. The problem was never to explain our functional capacities -- those were always a relatively straightforward problem for cognitive science. The problem was to explain why those capacities are accompanied by conscious experience. The closest Dennett comes to resolving this problem is in the moments when he bites the bullets and denies the reality of such experience. That's an audacious move, but not very satisfactory to one who's not already in the grip of an ideology. The book is exemplary, however, in that its attempt to deal with the problem of consciousness consists in an alternation between two strategies that are beloved by many materialists; indeed we've seen both in this discussion, viz: (a) redefine the problem: instead of explaining the experience of consciousness, explain various functional capacities; (b) deny the phenomenon: argue that conscious experience in fact does not exist, but is a mere illusion. Unfortunately, when these strategies are seen for what they are, neither of them is very satisfactory. -- Dave Chalmers (dave@cogsci.indiana.edu) Center for Research on Concepts and Cognition, Indiana University. "It is not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable."
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!wupost!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!bronze.ucs.indiana.edu!chalmers From: chalmers@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (David Chalmers) Subject: Re: Dualism Message-ID: <BuLAwJ.I6M@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: bronze.ucs.indiana.edu Organization: Indiana University References: <1992Sep11.225949.10095@sco.com> <BuG1nK.DGL@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1992Sep14.013025.26710@sophia.smith.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:38:43 GMT Lines: 54