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Ok, I just finished going through this with my home "network" system.

If you are going to hook it up that way you will need to purchase a IP
address for each computer from you cable modem service.  And the Cable Modem
must be plugged into slot 1 which should be labeled "MDI" (I don't know what
it stands for).  The computers go into the "MDI-X" ports.  If you only have
one IP address then the first computer to grab the cable modem gets to use
it, the other one lost out and will not connect to the internet.

I suggest WIN98SE with Internet Connect Sharing.  I set my system up his
way.  The Cable Modem is plugged into the "Main" computer, Then the other
computer is connected with the hub (2 NICS in one computer, one for modem,
one for hub).  Internet Connect Sharing switches the IP address as needed to
get all the computers connected at once and can share the same internet
connection.

Ok, I hope I made sense.  If not write back.

John



Jim Furlong <jpfurlong@home.com> wrote in message
news:37E402A2.48A1E3CF@home.com...
Anyone heard of this..got a SOHOWARE (NDC) 10/100 networking kit, with
two pci fast ethernet cards and a hub. It's advertised as able to handle
the cable modem via the first port on the hub (with a switch for
uplink)..anyway it doesn't work. I can connect directly to the cable
modem (TCI/AT&T @home) and get in fine. However connecting the cable
modem to the hub doesn't work. I've tried a crossover cable between the
modem and hub, and it still won't connect to the internet. Any help
would be appreciated.

Jim Furlong wrote:
> 
> Anyone heard of this..got a SOHOWARE (NDC) 10/100 networking kit, with
> two pci fast ethernet cards and a hub. It's advertised as able to handle
> the cable modem via the first port on the hub (with a switch for
> uplink)..anyway it doesn't work. I can connect directly to the cable
> modem (TCI/AT&T @home) and get in fine. However connecting the cable
> modem to the hub doesn't work. I've tried a crossover cable between the
> modem and hub, and it still won't connect to the internet. Any help
> would be appreciated.

1. Do the two computers "see" each other in Network Neighborhood before
attempting to connect the cable modem?

2. Which ports are you using for the computers?  Many hubs have some
sort of sharing mechanism with the uplink port and one of the other
ports so that a 4 or 5 port hub lets you attach 3 devices and uplink to
another hub (or use a cable modem).

3. Can you get one computer, the hub, and the cable modem working?

Hope these questions help you get on the right track, 

Ted Barrow

I have the same SOHOWARE package and a cable modem but I just found out from
reading MaximumPC magazine that the 100BaseT hub ONLY works at 100, not
10BaseT.  Cable modems can only work at 10BaseT.  There are hubs that can be
operated at either speed but not the SOHOWARE.  I always seem to miss some
key criteria when I buy hardware.


Jim Furlong <jpfurlong@home.com> wrote in message
news:37E402A2.48A1E3CF@home.com...
> Anyone heard of this..got a SOHOWARE (NDC) 10/100 networking kit, with
> two pci fast ethernet cards and a hub. It's advertised as able to handle
> the cable modem via the first port on the hub (with a switch for
> uplink)..anyway it doesn't work. I can connect directly to the cable
> modem (TCI/AT&T @home) and get in fine. However connecting the cable
> modem to the hub doesn't work. I've tried a crossover cable between the
> modem and hub, and it still won't connect to the internet. Any help
> would be appreciated.

If you have the hub NDH305 from SOHOWARE, it can handle both 10 and
100Mbps (if you have the SFH105, it can do 100Mbps only)..the NDH305
adjusts for either. What their tech support told me tonite was that I
need a CAT5 cable (RJ45 connectors) between the cable modem and the hub
..those cables that came with the hub are to be used between hub and pc
only, not for use between the modem and hub. I will be buying a CAT5
cable tomorrow and try again tomorrow nite.

"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote:
> 
> I have the same SOHOWARE package and a cable modem but I just found out from
> reading MaximumPC magazine that the 100BaseT hub ONLY works at 100, not
> 10BaseT.  Cable modems can only work at 10BaseT.  There are hubs that can be
> operated at either speed but not the SOHOWARE.  I always seem to miss some
> key criteria when I buy hardware.
> 
> Jim Furlong <jpfurlong@home.com> wrote in message
> news:37E402A2.48A1E3CF@home.com...
> > Anyone heard of this..got a SOHOWARE (NDC) 10/100 networking kit, with
> > two pci fast ethernet cards and a hub. It's advertised as able to handle
> > the cable modem via the first port on the hub (with a switch for
> > uplink)..anyway it doesn't work. I can connect directly to the cable
> > modem (TCI/AT&T @home) and get in fine. However connecting the cable
> > modem to the hub doesn't work. I've tried a crossover cable between the
> > modem and hub, and it still won't connect to the internet. Any help
> > would be appreciated.

They shipped something other than cat5 with a 100Mbp hub?

Jim Furlong (jpfurlong@home.com) wrote:
: If you have the hub NDH305 from SOHOWARE, it can handle both 10 and
: 100Mbps (if you have the SFH105, it can do 100Mbps only)..the NDH305
: adjusts for either. What their tech support told me tonite was that I
: need a CAT5 cable (RJ45 connectors) between the cable modem and the hub
: ..those cables that came with the hub are to be used between hub and pc
: only, not for use between the modem and hub. I will be buying a CAT5
: cable tomorrow and try again tomorrow nite.

: "Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote:
: > 
: > I have the same SOHOWARE package and a cable modem but I just found out from
: > reading MaximumPC magazine that the 100BaseT hub ONLY works at 100, not
: > 10BaseT.  Cable modems can only work at 10BaseT.  There are hubs that can be
: > operated at either speed but not the SOHOWARE.  I always seem to miss some
: > key criteria when I buy hardware.
: > 
: > Jim Furlong <jpfurlong@home.com> wrote in message
: > news:37E402A2.48A1E3CF@home.com...
: > > Anyone heard of this..got a SOHOWARE (NDC) 10/100 networking kit, with
: > > two pci fast ethernet cards and a hub. It's advertised as able to handle
: > > the cable modem via the first port on the hub (with a switch for
: > > uplink)..anyway it doesn't work. I can connect directly to the cable
: > > modem (TCI/AT&T @home) and get in fine. However connecting the cable
: > > modem to the hub doesn't work. I've tried a crossover cable between the
: > > modem and hub, and it still won't connect to the internet. Any help
: > > would be appreciated.

--

No, but I have to play their game until someone realizes that there may
be a problem with the hub. I bought a short CAT5, UTP, RJ45 cable ..and
it still doesn't work. And this is just trying to get one pc working via
the hub .... can't wait to get this solved and try the second pc.

Brian Fox wrote:
> 
> They shipped something other than cat5 with a 100Mbp hub?
> 
> Jim Furlong (jpfurlong@home.com) wrote:
> : If you have the hub NDH305 from SOHOWARE, it can handle both 10 and
> : 100Mbps (if you have the SFH105, it can do 100Mbps only)..the NDH305
> : adjusts for either. What their tech support told me tonite was that I
> : need a CAT5 cable (RJ45 connectors) between the cable modem and the hub
> : ..those cables that came with the hub are to be used between hub and pc
> : only, not for use between the modem and hub. I will be buying a CAT5
> : cable tomorrow and try again tomorrow nite.
> 
> : "Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote:
> : >
> : > I have the same SOHOWARE package and a cable modem but I just found out from
> : > reading MaximumPC magazine that the 100BaseT hub ONLY works at 100, not
> : > 10BaseT.  Cable modems can only work at 10BaseT.  There are hubs that can be
> : > operated at either speed but not the SOHOWARE.  I always seem to miss some
> : > key criteria when I buy hardware.
> : >
> : > Jim Furlong <jpfurlong@home.com> wrote in message
> : > news:37E402A2.48A1E3CF@home.com...
> : > > Anyone heard of this..got a SOHOWARE (NDC) 10/100 networking kit, with
> : > > two pci fast ethernet cards and a hub. It's advertised as able to handle
> : > > the cable modem via the first port on the hub (with a switch for
> : > > uplink)..anyway it doesn't work. I can connect directly to the cable
> : > > modem (TCI/AT&T @home) and get in fine. However connecting the cable
> : > > modem to the hub doesn't work. I've tried a crossover cable between the
> : > > modem and hub, and it still won't connect to the internet. Any help
> : > > would be appreciated.
> 
> --

Alas, it is the SFH105 that I have.  Thanks for the info, I hope that you
solve your problem.


Jim Furlong <jpfurlong@home.com> wrote in message
news:37E6C5E2.53D84195@home.com...
> If you have the hub NDH305 from SOHOWARE, it can handle both 10 and
> 100Mbps (if you have the SFH105, it can do 100Mbps only)..the NDH305
> adjusts for either. What their tech support told me tonite was that I
> need a CAT5 cable (RJ45 connectors) between the cable modem and the hub
> ..those cables that came with the hub are to be used between hub and pc
> only, not for use between the modem and hub. I will be buying a CAT5
> cable tomorrow and try again tomorrow nite.
>
> "Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote:
> >
> > I have the same SOHOWARE package and a cable modem but I just found out
from
> > reading MaximumPC magazine that the 100BaseT hub ONLY works at 100, not
> > 10BaseT.  Cable modems can only work at 10BaseT.  There are hubs that
can be
> > operated at either speed but not the SOHOWARE.  I always seem to miss
some
> > key criteria when I buy hardware.
> >
> > Jim Furlong <jpfurlong@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:37E402A2.48A1E3CF@home.com...
> > > Anyone heard of this..got a SOHOWARE (NDC) 10/100 networking kit, with
> > > two pci fast ethernet cards and a hub. It's advertised as able to
handle
> > > the cable modem via the first port on the hub (with a switch for
> > > uplink)..anyway it doesn't work. I can connect directly to the cable
> > > modem (TCI/AT&T @home) and get in fine. However connecting the cable
> > > modem to the hub doesn't work. I've tried a crossover cable between
the
> > > modem and hub, and it still won't connect to the internet. Any help
> > > would be appreciated.

You did not say whether the problem is software or hardware based.

When you connect the modem and the hub with either the NDC or new cable,
does the connection LED light up on the hub _and_ on the NIC? If not, you
definately have a hardware problem - wrong speed (as below) or defective hub
(since you tried with the NIC connected directly to the modem and they both
worked).

Yishai

Jim Furlong <jpfurlong@home.com> wrote in message
news:37E7F578.7D8B82CE@home.com...
> No, but I have to play their game until someone realizes that there may
> be a problem with the hub. I bought a short CAT5, UTP, RJ45 cable ..and
> it still doesn't work. And this is just trying to get one pc working via
> the hub .... can't wait to get this solved and try the second pc.
>
> Brian Fox wrote:
> >
> > They shipped something other than cat5 with a 100Mbp hub?
> >
> > Jim Furlong (jpfurlong@home.com) wrote:
> > : If you have the hub NDH305 from SOHOWARE, it can handle both 10 and
> > : 100Mbps (if you have the SFH105, it can do 100Mbps only)..the NDH305
> > : adjusts for either. What their tech support told me tonite was that I
> > : need a CAT5 cable (RJ45 connectors) between the cable modem and the
hub
> > : ..those cables that came with the hub are to be used between hub and
pc
> > : only, not for use between the modem and hub. I will be buying a CAT5
> > : cable tomorrow and try again tomorrow nite.
> >
> > : "Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote:
> > : >
> > : > I have the same SOHOWARE package and a cable modem but I just found
out from
> > : > reading MaximumPC magazine that the 100BaseT hub ONLY works at 100,
not
> > : > 10BaseT.  Cable modems can only work at 10BaseT.  There are hubs
that can be
> > : > operated at either speed but not the SOHOWARE.  I always seem to
miss some
> > : > key criteria when I buy hardware.
> > : >
> > : > Jim Furlong <jpfurlong@home.com> wrote in message
> > : > news:37E402A2.48A1E3CF@home.com...
> > : > > Anyone heard of this..got a SOHOWARE (NDC) 10/100 networking kit,
with
> > : > > two pci fast ethernet cards and a hub. It's advertised as able to
handle
> > : > > the cable modem via the first port on the hub (with a switch for
> > : > > uplink)..anyway it doesn't work. I can connect directly to the
cable
> > : > > modem (TCI/AT&T @home) and get in fine. However connecting the
cable
> > : > > modem to the hub doesn't work. I've tried a crossover cable
between the
> > : > > modem and hub, and it still won't connect to the internet. Any
help
> > : > > would be appreciated.
> >
> > --

I had a problem getting my cable modem to work when connected to my 10/100
autosensing hub. After many hours of frustration I discovered the secret !
UNPLUG THE CABLE MODEM FOR 30 SECONDS to let it reset. Wala ! :o)

Yishai Sered <ysered@arepa.NoSpAm.com> wrote in message
news:ruiikakalg720@news.supernews.com...
> You did not say whether the problem is software or hardware based.
>
> When you connect the modem and the hub with either the NDC or new cable,
> does the connection LED light up on the hub _and_ on the NIC? If not, you
> definately have a hardware problem - wrong speed (as below) or defective
hub
> (since you tried with the NIC connected directly to the modem and they
both
> worked).
>
> Yishai
>
> Jim Furlong <jpfurlong@home.com> wrote in message
> news:37E7F578.7D8B82CE@home.com...
> > No, but I have to play their game until someone realizes that there may
> > be a problem with the hub. I bought a short CAT5, UTP, RJ45 cable ..and
> > it still doesn't work. And this is just trying to get one pc working via
> > the hub .... can't wait to get this solved and try the second pc.
> >
> > Brian Fox wrote:
> > >
> > > They shipped something other than cat5 with a 100Mbp hub?
> > >
> > > Jim Furlong (jpfurlong@home.com) wrote:
> > > : If you have the hub NDH305 from SOHOWARE, it can handle both 10 and
> > > : 100Mbps (if you have the SFH105, it can do 100Mbps only)..the NDH305
> > > : adjusts for either. What their tech support told me tonite was that
I
> > > : need a CAT5 cable (RJ45 connectors) between the cable modem and the
> hub
> > > : ..those cables that came with the hub are to be used between hub and
> pc
> > > : only, not for use between the modem and hub. I will be buying a CAT5
> > > : cable tomorrow and try again tomorrow nite.
> > >
> > > : "Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote:
> > > : >
> > > : > I have the same SOHOWARE package and a cable modem but I just
found
> out from
> > > : > reading MaximumPC magazine that the 100BaseT hub ONLY works at
100,
> not
> > > : > 10BaseT.  Cable modems can only work at 10BaseT.  There are hubs
> that can be
> > > : > operated at either speed but not the SOHOWARE.  I always seem to
> miss some
> > > : > key criteria when I buy hardware.
> > > : >
> > > : > Jim Furlong <jpfurlong@home.com> wrote in message
> > > : > news:37E402A2.48A1E3CF@home.com...
> > > : > > Anyone heard of this..got a SOHOWARE (NDC) 10/100 networking
kit,
> with
> > > : > > two pci fast ethernet cards and a hub. It's advertised as able
to
> handle
> > > : > > the cable modem via the first port on the hub (with a switch for
> > > : > > uplink)..anyway it doesn't work. I can connect directly to the
> cable
> > > : > > modem (TCI/AT&T @home) and get in fine. However connecting the
> cable
> > > : > > modem to the hub doesn't work. I've tried a crossover cable
> between the
> > > : > > modem and hub, and it still won't connect to the internet. Any
> help
> > > : > > would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > --
>
>

Jim, u have to have a hub with an uplink port. Conn the cable modem to
the uplink port with a 1-1 cable (no xover) and then plug the PC's into
the respective ports.

U'll have to get individual IP addresses for each computer or some IP
sharing SW to utilize multiple computers simultaneously.


Jim Furlong wrote:
> 
> Anyone heard of this..got a SOHOWARE (NDC) 10/100 networking kit, with
> two pci fast ethernet cards and a hub. It's advertised as able to handle
> the cable modem via the first port on the hub (with a switch for
> uplink)..anyway it doesn't work. I can connect directly to the cable
> modem (TCI/AT&T @home) and get in fine. However connecting the cable
> modem to the hub doesn't work. I've tried a crossover cable between the
> modem and hub, and it still won't connect to the internet. Any help
> would be appreciated.

-- 

Dick Perron
http://www.gw.total-web.net/~dperr/pc_hdwe.htm

If you set your goals on nothing............that's what you'll achieve.

I think 40 bucks a month is enough to pay without having them rip you off
for more addresses. This is a lie they use to get you to pay more money. I
have the same problem, only one computer can get the modem at a time, and it
is all set up correctly, but the thing is, my friend has 3 computers all of
which are on SIMULTANEOUSLY, without the need for a proxy (the modem goes in
his uplink port) or the need to buy additional numbers. My problem is that
he can not remember how he set it up, so I was wondering if anyone could
tell me how it is done, because i know it IS possible to share the modem at
the same time, with only one number and no proxy.

<GulDukat@Cardassia.com> wrote in message
news:ru8rbt5olg773@news.supernews.com...
> Ok, I just finished going through this with my home "network" system.
>
> If you are going to hook it up that way you will need to purchase a IP
> address for each computer from you cable modem service.  And the Cable
Modem
> must be plugged into slot 1 which should be labeled "MDI" (I don't know
what
> it stands for).  The computers go into the "MDI-X" ports.  If you only
have
> one IP address then the first computer to grab the cable modem gets to use
> it, the other one lost out and will not connect to the internet.
>
> I suggest WIN98SE with Internet Connect Sharing.  I set my system up his
> way.  The Cable Modem is plugged into the "Main" computer, Then the other
> computer is connected with the hub (2 NICS in one computer, one for modem,
> one for hub).  Internet Connect Sharing switches the IP address as needed
to
> get all the computers connected at once and can share the same internet
> connection.

I have a copy of;

Easy Does It - by Hardin Brothers (Practical WINDOWS, Number 42, November
1998)

If you have more than one Windows computer, it's time you networked them
together. It's easier and cheaper than you think.

This is his intro and the rest is in Word and rather large
8pages, 4200 words +
 (scanned for me by Steve Ross, he used it and it worked)
let  me know if you want it I may paste it here as an attachment,
for  the benefit of all.
Jdr
=======

"I 'LL ADMIT IT: I felt intimidated the first time I installed a network. By
that time, I'd worked with personal computers for two decades, but suddenly
I faced hardware I didn't understand, dozens of acronyms that made no sense
to me, and a handful of concepts I'd never even considered. In the end,
though, I realized that installing a small network was much easier than,
say, installing a scanner or a backup tape drive.
When I decided to network the computers in our home offices, my wife Christy
had similar feelings of trepidation. Why did she have to learn something
new? Was it going to be difficult to use? But she soon felt so comfortable
with the network that, when one of our puppies used the cabling as a chew
toy, Christy felt the inconvenience of having it down for a day much more
than I did.
I was reminded of those feelings this month when I received four separate
reader letters asking about networks. One reader asked how expensive it
would be to install a small-office network, another wanted to know if she
needed to hire an expert to install a home network, and the others asked me
to recommend a book with good step-by-step instructions.
I can do better than that; I 11 dedicate this installment of Q&A to clearing
up questions on small Windows networks. That'll save you not only the cost
of a weighty tome but also the frustration of wading through mountains of
text to uncover relevant information. After reading just few magazine pages,
you'll have the knowledge you need to buy equipment, which should cost less
than $100. You can have a two- or three-computer network up and running in
an afternoon. Before quitting time, you'll be so comfortable with the
network that you'll wonder why you waited so long to install it."


Terragen <not@here.com> wrote in message
news:1HwQ3.5413$MX.342750@news1.rdc2.on.home.com...
> I think 40 bucks a month is enough to pay without having them rip you off
> for more addresses. This is a lie they use to get you to pay more money. I
> have the same problem, only one computer can get the modem at a time, and
it
> is all set up correctly, but the thing is, my friend has 3 computers all
of
> which are on SIMULTANEOUSLY, without the need for a proxy (the modem goes
in
> his uplink port) or the need to buy additional numbers. My problem is that
> he can not remember how he set it up, so I was wondering if anyone could
> tell me how it is done, because i know it IS possible to share the modem
at
> the same time, with only one number and no proxy.
>
> <GulDukat@Cardassia.com> wrote in message
> news:ru8rbt5olg773@news.supernews.com...
> > Ok, I just finished going through this with my home "network" system.
> >
> > If you are going to hook it up that way you will need to purchase a IP
> > address for each computer from you cable modem service.  And the Cable
> Modem
> > must be plugged into slot 1 which should be labeled "MDI" (I don't know
> what
> > it stands for).  The computers go into the "MDI-X" ports.  If you only
> have
> > one IP address then the first computer to grab the cable modem gets to
use
> > it, the other one lost out and will not connect to the internet.
> >
> > I suggest WIN98SE with Internet Connect Sharing.  I set my system up his
> > way.  The Cable Modem is plugged into the "Main" computer, Then the
other
> > computer is connected with the hub (2 NICS in one computer, one for
modem,
> > one for hub).  Internet Connect Sharing switches the IP address as
needed
> to
> > get all the computers connected at once and can share the same internet
> > connection.
>
>
>