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"Josip Kolar" <josip96@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> Today, Saturday 2.11.2002, happened something very odd to me.
> It was a sunny afternoon in Mirrabooka, at about 16:30.
> I drove from Mirrabooka Square onto Yirrigan Drive towards Alexander
Drive,
> and was going to turn right into Dianella Drive slowing down gradually to
20
> km/h and even slower, although there was green right arrow. Behind me was
a
> police car tooting as a hooligan as I stopped for a second or two before
> continuing to drive. Meanwhile, my daughter, not knowing who is behind us
> and, at the same time worrying about my sudden change of colour, shoved
the
> finger through the window to the driver behind - which this one behind
could
> not bear.
> Policeman pulled me over and, after I stopped after next intersection,
came
> to my car and started in aggressive manner: "I have to tell you something,
> and after I shall deal with you (i.e. my daughter, who held infant on her
> lap}..." I tried to take breath and he, probably thought that I want to
say
> something, shouted: Don't interrupt me!" First of all, he blasted me for
> stopping at the green light, saying that some less experienced driver
might
> slam into me and thus cause an accident
> In his furry he didn't realise that I was most terribly sick and, at the
> green light I stopped because I was not sure if I see the picture right or
> not; that's why I stoped in the first place. I am diabetic and this is not
> the first time that I stop on green light; people tooted sometimes, but
> never ever so impatiently like this time.
> Then he started to abuse me that he stopped me last week, that he is sure
of
> it, that he knows my face... Did I drunk anything lately, and where I go.
I
> thought, man I am sick, but you are either high or desperate. It was a
> pathetic sight seeing him shouting at the top of his voice: "I AM a
> policeman!"
> After he put yellow sticker for insufficient thread on some of the wheels,
> and said that he is only cautioning me for the stopping on the green
light,
> and the rest of the fine I will get in the mail.
> When he disappeared I wanted to put two fingers up in his honour, but was
> still too sick.
> What one should do in situations of spells: to stop or continue to drive?
> Hopefully this one is an exception rather than a rule.
>
Its best you not drive if you are prone to spells, you might have or cause
an accident that kills or injures someone else.

Tom

On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:13:56 +0800, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and
"Josip Kolar" <josip96@ozemail.com.au> instead replied:

>What one should do in situations of spells: to stop or continue to drive?
>Hopefully this one is an exception rather than a rule.

Talk to your MD. Keep some hard candies in your car. As a long time
diabetic, I can tell you that what happens is a low blood sugar issue
and sucking on a hard lollie will bring you out quickly.

Make sure you talk to your doctor though to be sure how large a dosage
you'll need. He can give you glucose tolerance tests that will help
you predict when those episodes will occur and how to deal with them.

If you don't do that, please don't drive before you hurt those kids
you ferry about or yourself.

Ray

"Tom" <fake@earth> wrote in message news:3dc4b810@quokka.wn.com.au...
>
> "Josip Kolar" <josip96@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:aq0ilb$5fi5t$1@ID-89636.news.dfncis.de...
> > Today, Saturday 2.11.2002, happened something very odd to me.
> > It was a sunny afternoon in Mirrabooka, at about 16:30.
> > I drove from Mirrabooka Square onto Yirrigan Drive towards Alexander
> Drive,
> > and was going to turn right into Dianella Drive slowing down gradually
to
> 20
> > km/h and even slower, although there was green right arrow. Behind me
was
> a
> > police car tooting as a hooligan as I stopped for a second or two before
> > continuing to drive. Meanwhile, my daughter, not knowing who is behind
us
> > and, at the same time worrying about my sudden change of colour, shoved
> the
> > finger through the window to the driver behind - which this one behind
> could
> > not bear.
> > Policeman pulled me over and, after I stopped after next intersection,
> came
> > to my car and started in aggressive manner: "I have to tell you
something,
> > and after I shall deal with you (i.e. my daughter, who held infant on
her
> > lap}..." I tried to take breath and he, probably thought that I want to
> say
> > something, shouted: Don't interrupt me!" First of all, he blasted me for
> > stopping at the green light, saying that some less experienced driver
> might
> > slam into me and thus cause an accident
> > In his furry he didn't realise that I was most terribly sick and, at the
> > green light I stopped because I was not sure if I see the picture right
or
> > not; that's why I stoped in the first place. I am diabetic and this is
not
> > the first time that I stop on green light; people tooted sometimes, but
> > never ever so impatiently like this time.
> > Then he started to abuse me that he stopped me last week, that he is
sure
> of
> > it, that he knows my face... Did I drunk anything lately, and where I
go.
> I
> > thought, man I am sick, but you are either high or desperate. It was a
> > pathetic sight seeing him shouting at the top of his voice: "I AM a
> > policeman!"
> > After he put yellow sticker for insufficient thread on some of the
wheels,
> > and said that he is only cautioning me for the stopping on the green
> light,
> > and the rest of the fine I will get in the mail.
> > When he disappeared I wanted to put two fingers up in his honour, but
was
> > still too sick.
> > What one should do in situations of spells: to stop or continue to
drive?
> > Hopefully this one is an exception rather than a rule.
> >
> Its best you not drive if you are prone to spells, you might have or cause
> an accident that kills or injures someone else.
>

That, and I'd lodge a complaint against the officer with the police.  His
behaviour was well out of line.  We pay these people to be professional in
all situations, but if this guy can't handle a simple traffic stop he's a
real danger to us all.  What if it was an elderly person driving a bit slow?
Christ, his behaviour would've given a good many of our grandmothers a heart
attack!  Again, I STRONGLY encourage you to file a complaint, and I'd
suggest you not mention the fact that you were driving while impaired.  Next
time, leave the car, and call a family member or a cab (or even take a bus).
You put everyone at risk when you drive when you are so ill.  I have
multiple medical conditions, and if I don't feel up to driving, I either
have my wife drive me or get another family member or friend to help out.

HTH,

Ari

> Tom
>
>

"Josip Kolar" <josip96@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:aq0ilb$5fi5t$1@ID-89636.news.dfncis.de...
> Today, Saturday 2.11.2002, happened something very odd to me.
> It was a sunny afternoon in Mirrabooka, at about 16:30.
> I drove from Mirrabooka Square onto Yirrigan Drive towards Alexander
Drive,
> and was going to turn right into Dianella Drive slowing down gradually to
20
> km/h and even slower, although there was green right arrow. Behind me was
a
> police car tooting as a hooligan as I stopped for a second or two before
> continuing to drive. Meanwhile, my daughter, not knowing who is behind us
> and, at the same time worrying about my sudden change of colour, shoved
the
> finger through the window to the driver behind - which this one behind
could
> not bear.
> Policeman pulled me over and, after I stopped after next intersection,
came
> to my car and started in aggressive manner: "I have to tell you something,
> and after I shall deal with you (i.e. my daughter, who held infant on her
> lap}..." I tried to take breath and he, probably thought that I want to
say
> something, shouted: Don't interrupt me!" First of all, he blasted me for
> stopping at the green light, saying that some less experienced driver
might
> slam into me and thus cause an accident
> In his furry he didn't realise that I was most terribly sick and, at the
> green light I stopped because I was not sure if I see the picture right or
> not; that's why I stoped in the first place. I am diabetic and this is not
> the first time that I stop on green light; people tooted sometimes, but
> never ever so impatiently like this time.
> Then he started to abuse me that he stopped me last week, that he is sure
of
> it, that he knows my face... Did I drunk anything lately, and where I go.
I
> thought, man I am sick, but you are either high or desperate. It was a
> pathetic sight seeing him shouting at the top of his voice: "I AM a
> policeman!"
> After he put yellow sticker for insufficient thread on some of the wheels,
> and said that he is only cautioning me for the stopping on the green
light,
> and the rest of the fine I will get in the mail.
> When he disappeared I wanted to put two fingers up in his honour, but was
> still too sick.
> What one should do in situations of spells: to stop or continue to drive?
> Hopefully this one is an exception rather than a rule.
>
> Or, maybe, some other branch was at work through that policeman.
> There was too much furry, too much temper displayed - as if the policeman
> would know me personally.
> Who Knows, he did say: "I know your face!".
> Maybe my face was shown to him, sometimes, somewhere earlier.
>
> Please do not ask for policemans number publicly.
>
> --
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> contact me via fax:                                   P.O.  Box  284
> ++61 8 9322 1307                                 Inglewood, W.A.6832
> or you can write to:                                 Australia.
>
>
>
>
>
>

I agree that this cop was out of line, but you mentioned your daughter was
holding a child on her lap?
That is also illegal.  I'm not trying to make excuses for this cop, but who
knows, he may recently have attended a fatal and seeing you stop at a green
light, and then seeing your daughter holding a child *may* have momentarily
sent him off the rails, so to speak.  Just as you had your reasons for
pausing at the lights, he may have had a reason behind his anger.
My only suggestion would be to pull over in a safe spot (even if its in
someones driveway!) if you ever feel like that again.

Don't be afraid of driving, but be aware of what is going on with your body
and try to identify what happens in the lead up to these 'episodes' so you
can do something about it before you hurt yourself and/or others.
Fortunately, I don't suffer from diabetes, so I have no idea of what happens
and how it happens, so if I offend anyone, sorry.

"Josip Kolar" <josip96@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:aq0ilb$5fi5t$1@ID-89636.news.dfncis.de...
> Today, Saturday 2.11.2002, happened something very odd to me.
> It was a sunny afternoon in Mirrabooka, at about 16:30.
> I drove from Mirrabooka Square onto Yirrigan Drive towards Alexander
Drive,
> and was going to turn right into Dianella Drive slowing down gradually to
20
> km/h and even slower, although there was green right arrow. Behind me was
a
..................
Maybe the policeman was rude/rough, but you were driving dangerously and
your daughter was behaving in an insulting manner and illegally nursing a
child - you probably looked for all the world like just another shithead
with an attitude. Why doesn't she know what to do when you have a turn? Why
is she more concerned with being rude to other drivers? If you were
hypoglycemic you would have a fairly short time before passing out from lack
of sugar, but to be creeping home sick @ 20kph you were probably
hyperglycemic and are not insulin-dependent (otherwise you could have
insulin to lower the sugar level). If this happens often your
diet/insulin/exercise is not in balance and you need to see a doctor - do
this before you worry about any police brutality or conspiracy theories. You
are going to kill yourself or someone else before the "baddies" get you.

"jg" <jgaunt@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:loYw9.67915$g9.191909@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
>
> "Josip Kolar" <josip96@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:aq0ilb$5fi5t$1@ID-89636.news.dfncis.de...
> > Today, Saturday 2.11.2002, happened something very odd to me.
> > It was a sunny afternoon in Mirrabooka, at about 16:30.
> > I drove from Mirrabooka Square onto Yirrigan Drive towards Alexander
> Drive,
> > and was going to turn right into Dianella Drive slowing down gradually
to
> 20
> > km/h and even slower, although there was green right arrow. Behind me
was
> a
> ..................
> Maybe the policeman was rude/rough, but you were driving dangerously and
> your daughter was behaving in an insulting manner and illegally nursing a
> child - you probably looked for all the world like just another shithead
> with an attitude. Why doesn't she know what to do when you have a turn?
Why
> is she more concerned with being rude to other drivers? If you were
> hypoglycemic you would have a fairly short time before passing out from
lack
> of sugar, but to be creeping home sick @ 20kph you were probably
> hyperglycemic and are not insulin-dependent (otherwise you could have
> insulin to lower the sugar level). If this happens often your
> diet/insulin/exercise is not in balance and you need to see a doctor - do
> this before you worry about any police brutality or conspiracy theories.
You
> are going to kill yourself or someone else before the "baddies" get you.
>
>

Thanks mate, well spoken. Actually, too well for my understanding.
I have survived that, and many other, "police brutality" and/or "conspiracy
theories".
You haven't, that's for sure; you do not know how the things are in reality.
You know, if you do, how the things should be.
See, everyone is different; some claim that every person is the same.
At least, I AM different; so the things are different with me and thus
uncomprehensive to some.

Regardless of green lights, I believe that is my right to stop when I see
fit.
Not at someone else's command, be it even a commissioner of the police.
As far I understand the rules, one must not drive, or go, trough red light.
And even this is questionable and depends on circumstances.
And for a green arrow... I was braking for more than fifty metres before
sopping.
Only a troll would not see glowing braking lights on my car and slam into
me.

But the story I presented is not complete; I presented only a part that I
think is more important.
I was slowing for two reasons at the same time, of which none occurred to
the policeman.
Other reason is that towards me was driving another troll with full speed
and stopped at the very last second.
That's why I was not sure and finally stopped; and continued to drive when
the other driver stopped.
Would you exercise your right and drive, trusting the green arrow?
In my opinion I was wrong because of my being too cautious.

And as for my medical condition, I know better than anyone else how to
control it.
It is not so bad, but only when it comes I am more cautious and would stop
the vehicle rather than chance.
I am in possession of heavy vehicle drivers licence with clean past.
But now, in a tiny Hyundai, I am very bad driver.
Yes, my daughter should not to put a finger up, I agree.

Besides, I never tell all the details of the story on internet. But the
things may change.

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<snip>

> But now, in a tiny Hyundai, I am very bad driver.

Says it all really.


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"Josip Kolar" <josip96@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "jg" <jgaunt@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:loYw9.67915$g9.191909@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
> >
> > "Josip Kolar" <josip96@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:aq0ilb$5fi5t$1@ID-89636.news.dfncis.de...
> > > Today, Saturday 2.11.2002, happened something very odd to me.
> > > It was a sunny afternoon in Mirrabooka, at about 16:30.
> > > I drove from Mirrabooka Square onto Yirrigan Drive towards Alexander
> > Drive,
> > > and was going to turn right into Dianella Drive slowing down gradually
> to
> > 20
> > > km/h and even slower, although there was green right arrow. Behind me
> was
> > a
> > ..................
> > Maybe the policeman was rude/rough, but you were driving dangerously and
> > your daughter was behaving in an insulting manner and illegally nursing
a
> > child - you probably looked for all the world like just another shithead
> > with an attitude. Why doesn't she know what to do when you have a turn?
> Why
> > is she more concerned with being rude to other drivers? If you were
> > hypoglycemic you would have a fairly short time before passing out from
> lack
> > of sugar, but to be creeping home sick @ 20kph you were probably
> > hyperglycemic and are not insulin-dependent (otherwise you could have
> > insulin to lower the sugar level). If this happens often your
> > diet/insulin/exercise is not in balance and you need to see a doctor -
do
> > this before you worry about any police brutality or conspiracy theories.
> You
> > are going to kill yourself or someone else before the "baddies" get you.
> >
> >
>
> Thanks mate, well spoken. Actually, too well for my understanding.
> I have survived that, and many other, "police brutality" and/or
"conspiracy
> theories".
> You haven't, that's for sure; you do not know how the things are in
reality.
> You know, if you do, how the things should be.
> See, everyone is different; some claim that every person is the same.
> At least, I AM different; so the things are different with me and thus
> uncomprehensive to some.
>
> Regardless of green lights, I believe that is my right to stop when I see
> fit.
> Not at someone else's command, be it even a commissioner of the police.
> As far I understand the rules, one must not drive, or go, trough red
light.
> And even this is questionable and depends on circumstances.
> And for a green arrow... I was braking for more than fifty metres before
> sopping.
> Only a troll would not see glowing braking lights on my car and slam into
> me.
>
> But the story I presented is not complete; I presented only a part that I
> think is more important.
> I was slowing for two reasons at the same time, of which none occurred to
> the policeman.
> Other reason is that towards me was driving another troll with full speed
> and stopped at the very last second.
> That's why I was not sure and finally stopped; and continued to drive when
> the other driver stopped.
> Would you exercise your right and drive, trusting the green arrow?
> In my opinion I was wrong because of my being too cautious.
>
> And as for my medical condition, I know better than anyone else how to
> control it.
> It is not so bad, but only when it comes I am more cautious and would stop
> the vehicle rather than chance.
> I am in possession of heavy vehicle drivers licence with clean past.
> But now, in a tiny Hyundai, I am very bad driver.
> Yes, my daughter should not to put a finger up, I agree.
>

You did not say you were stopping for another car, or that you are often
victimised - why, and how could the police even tell you are a target from
behind? You can go or stop whenever you feel like it but if there is no
reason for the surprise to the traffic you will still be fined because it's
against the law.

"Josip Kolar" <josip96@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:aq0ilb$5fi5t$1@ID-89636.news.dfncis.de...
> Today, Saturday 2.11.2002, happened something very odd to me.
> It was a sunny afternoon in Mirrabooka, at about 16:30.
> I drove from Mirrabooka Square onto Yirrigan Drive towards Alexander
Drive,
> and was going to turn right into Dianella Drive slowing down gradually to
20
> km/h and even slower, although there was green right arrow. Behind me was
a
> police car tooting as a hooligan as I stopped for a second or two before
> continuing to drive. Meanwhile, my daughter, not knowing who is behind us
> and, at the same time worrying about my sudden change of colour, shoved
the
> finger through the window to the driver behind - which this one behind
could
> not bear.
> Policeman pulled me over and, after I stopped after next intersection,
came
> to my car and started in aggressive manner: "I have to tell you something,
> and after I shall deal with you (i.e. my daughter, who held infant on her
> lap}..." I tried to take breath and he, probably thought that I want to
say
> something, shouted: Don't interrupt me!" First of all, he blasted me for
> stopping at the green light, saying that some less experienced driver
might
> slam into me and thus cause an accident
> In his furry he didn't realise that I was most terribly sick and, at the
> green light I stopped because I was not sure if I see the picture right or
> not; that's why I stoped in the first place. I am diabetic and this is not
> the first time that I stop on green light; people tooted sometimes, but
> never ever so impatiently like this time.
> Then he started to abuse me that he stopped me last week, that he is sure
of
> it, that he knows my face... Did I drunk anything lately, and where I go.
I
> thought, man I am sick, but you are either high or desperate. It was a
> pathetic sight seeing him shouting at the top of his voice: "I AM a
> policeman!"
> After he put yellow sticker for insufficient thread on some of the wheels,
> and said that he is only cautioning me for the stopping on the green
light,
> and the rest of the fine I will get in the mail.
> When he disappeared I wanted to put two fingers up in his honour, but was
> still too sick.
> What one should do in situations of spells: to stop or continue to drive?
> Hopefully this one is an exception rather than a rule.
>
> Or, maybe, some other branch was at work through that policeman.
> There was too much furry, too much temper displayed - as if the policeman
> would know me personally.
> Who Knows, he did say: "I know your face!".
> Maybe my face was shown to him, sometimes, somewhere earlier.
>
> Please do not ask for policemans number publicly.

Sounds like you were not in a condition to drive and shouldn't have been
driving in the first place. You admit to making a silly maneouver because of
your condition. GUILTY.

You wanted to turn right, had a turn arrow, but continued to slow below
20Kph.  Sounds like you have no idea how to drive. The fact you admit to
having experienced similar abuse before suggests you are an idiot with no
idea how to drive safely.

The fact you stopped because of the tooting proves your stupidity again. A
horn is a warning device, if you hear it behind you it rarely means you
should come to a complete stop. Usually it means, get out of the way.

What the hell was your daughter doing with a child on her lap? Are you the
moron family? People who do that don't deserve to breed and deserve whatever
happens through your idiotic driving.

Sure the cop may have been rude, perhaps excessivelyt so,  but I think it's
high time cops were allowed to tell people just how stupid/dangerous they
are. Perhaps those drivers will finally wake up to their shitty driving.

Did he stop you last week? You imply that it's possible he did. Based on
your admittedly shocking driving skills it wouldn't surprise me if he has
dealt with you numerous times for your attempts at driving.

Why are you dirving an unroadworthy car?

Sit back and think about it:

1. You were in no condition to drive, and did so.
2. Your stupid daughter had a baby on her lap, and you allowed it.
3. You drove like a paranoid idiot with no real situational awareness
4. Failed to negotiate the most simplest of turns (with lights, under 20KPH)
5. Stopped for no particular reason when the cop tooted you (innapropriate
response)
6. Proceeded merrily down the road until the cop indicated for you to stop.
7. Were driving an unroadworthy vehicle.

You Sir, are a menace to your entire family and everyone else on the road.
Give up your license before you kill someone. The fact you cannot recognise
your own stupidity is mind boggling. The cop may have reacted beyond what is
expected but you deserved it for being so bloody dangerous.

Don't blame him for your death defying driving.

--
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** since August 15th 2000.
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"Josip Kolar" <josip96@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "jg" <jgaunt@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:loYw9.67915$g9.191909@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
> >
> > "Josip Kolar" <josip96@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:aq0ilb$5fi5t$1@ID-89636.news.dfncis.de...
> > > Today, Saturday 2.11.2002, happened something very odd to me.
> > > It was a sunny afternoon in Mirrabooka, at about 16:30.
> > > I drove from Mirrabooka Square onto Yirrigan Drive towards Alexander
> > Drive,
> > > and was going to turn right into Dianella Drive slowing down gradually
> to
> > 20
> > > km/h and even slower, although there was green right arrow. Behind me
> was
> > a
> > ..................
> > Maybe the policeman was rude/rough, but you were driving dangerously and
> > your daughter was behaving in an insulting manner and illegally nursing
a
> > child - you probably looked for all the world like just another shithead
> > with an attitude. Why doesn't she know what to do when you have a turn?
> Why
> > is she more concerned with being rude to other drivers? If you were
> > hypoglycemic you would have a fairly short time before passing out from
> lack
> > of sugar, but to be creeping home sick @ 20kph you were probably
> > hyperglycemic and are not insulin-dependent (otherwise you could have
> > insulin to lower the sugar level). If this happens often your
> > diet/insulin/exercise is not in balance and you need to see a doctor -
do
> > this before you worry about any police brutality or conspiracy theories.
> You
> > are going to kill yourself or someone else before the "baddies" get you.
> >
> >
>
> Thanks mate, well spoken. Actually, too well for my understanding.
> I have survived that, and many other, "police brutality" and/or
"conspiracy
> theories".

Sounds more like you don't know how to drive.

> You haven't, that's for sure; you do not know how the things are in
reality.

The reality is that you can't face what a shocking danger you are on the
roads.

> You know, if you do, how the things should be.
> See, everyone is different; some claim that every person is the same.
> At least, I AM different; so the things are different with me and thus
> uncomprehensive to some.

Obviously. You're logic is incomprehensible.

>
> Regardless of green lights, I believe that is my right to stop when I see
> fit.

Wrong!

> Not at someone else's command, be it even a commissioner of the police.

Wrong!

> As far I understand the rules, one must not drive, or go, trough red
light.

Wrong!

> And even this is questionable and depends on circumstances.

Wrong!

> And for a green arrow... I was braking for more than fifty metres before
> sopping.

What the hell for, you were under 20KPH? Are you that incapable of
controlling a car?

> Only a troll would not see glowing braking lights on my car and slam into
> me.

Are you really that stupid? Go check the statistics for rear end
accidents..............

>
> But the story I presented is not complete; I presented only a part that I
> think is more important.

The bit about you being a menace on our roads.

> I was slowing for two reasons at the same time, of which none occurred to
> the policeman.
> Other reason is that towards me was driving another troll with full speed
> and stopped at the very last second.

And by your own words " presented only a part that I think is more
important." Don't you think that's important that another car was
approaching, you didn't think so in your original post. Sounds like you
usually just wander on down the road with no consideration for other
traffic.

> That's why I was not sure and finally stopped; and continued to drive when
> the other driver stopped.

One of these paranoid hesistators, I see.

> Would you exercise your right and drive, trusting the green arrow?

No, I drive like you. I  flip a coin and then decide to either proceed or
jump on my brakes...................... <sarcasm in case you missed it>

> In my opinion I was wrong because of my being too cautious.

You admit fault once again. It is often more dangerous to be overly cautious
than to open your eyes and engage your brain and figure out how not to be a
road hazard to both yourselves and others.

>
> And as for my medical condition, I know better than anyone else how to
> control it.

But you admit to not controlling it........very reassuring. The fact you use
that as an excuse is appalling.

> It is not so bad, but only when it comes I am more cautious and would stop
> the vehicle rather than chance.

And by stopping and being unnecessarily cautious you create a greater risk
for all nearby road users. Be cautious, but not to the point of causing
greater risk to everyone else. If you don't consider other road users you
are going to directly or indirectly kill/injure someone.

> I am in possession of heavy vehicle drivers licence with clean past.

Now you are scaring us. Give it up, you'll kill someone sooner or later. The
fact you haven't killed anyone yet isn't a valid excuse.

> But now, in a tiny Hyundai, I am very bad driver.

I really can't believe how stupid you are. You've admitted to doing wrong,
having no idea how to drive, can't control your medical condition, admit to
being constantly pulled over by police for bad driving, drive an
unroadworthy vehicle, and somehow believe you can justify yourself.

Now you tell us you have a heavy endorsement. I look forward to hearing
about your crash on the news, hopefully without injuring/killing anyone
else.

> Yes, my daughter should not to put a finger up, I agree.

What about the baby on her lap, let alone getting into an unroadworthy car
being driven by someone who's hopeless? Oh, I guess that's OK becuase you
are victimised by police and hold a heavy endorsement.................

--
The Raven
** Undisputed President of the ozemail.* NG's
** since August 15th 2000.
** Conqueror of the uunet.* NG's

"The Raven" <wsmc@flashmail.com> wrote in message
news:aq2pu7$5vc21$1@ID-137622.news.dfncis.de...
> "Josip Kolar" <josip96@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:aq0ilb$5fi5t$1@ID-89636.news.dfncis.de...
> > Today, Saturday 2.11.2002, happened something very odd to me.
> > It was a sunny afternoon in Mirrabooka, at about 16:30.
> > I drove from Mirrabooka Square onto Yirrigan Drive towards Alexander
> Drive,
> > and was going to turn right into Dianella Drive slowing down gradually
to
> 20
> > km/h and even slower, although there was green right arrow. Behind me
was
> a
> > police car tooting as a hooligan as I stopped for a second or two before
> > continuing to drive. Meanwhile, my daughter, not knowing who is behind
us
> > and, at the same time worrying about my sudden change of colour, shoved
> the
> > finger through the window to the driver behind - which this one behind
> could
> > not bear.
> > Policeman pulled me over and, after I stopped after next intersection,
> came
> > to my car and started in aggressive manner: "I have to tell you
something,
> > and after I shall deal with you (i.e. my daughter, who held infant on
her
> > lap}..." I tried to take breath and he, probably thought that I want to
> say
> > something, shouted: Don't interrupt me!" First of all, he blasted me for
> > stopping at the green light, saying that some less experienced driver
> might
> > slam into me and thus cause an accident
> > In his furry he didn't realise that I was most terribly sick and, at the
> > green light I stopped because I was not sure if I see the picture right
or
> > not; that's why I stoped in the first place. I am diabetic and this is
not
> > the first time that I stop on green light; people tooted sometimes, but
> > never ever so impatiently like this time.
> > Then he started to abuse me that he stopped me last week, that he is
sure
> of
> > it, that he knows my face... Did I drunk anything lately, and where I
go.
> I
> > thought, man I am sick, but you are either high or desperate. It was a
> > pathetic sight seeing him shouting at the top of his voice: "I AM a
> > policeman!"
> > After he put yellow sticker for insufficient thread on some of the
wheels,
> > and said that he is only cautioning me for the stopping on the green
> light,
> > and the rest of the fine I will get in the mail.
> > When he disappeared I wanted to put two fingers up in his honour, but
was
> > still too sick.
> > What one should do in situations of spells: to stop or continue to
drive?
> > Hopefully this one is an exception rather than a rule.
> >
> > Or, maybe, some other branch was at work through that policeman.
> > There was too much furry, too much temper displayed - as if the
policeman
> > would know me personally.
> > Who Knows, he did say: "I know your face!".
> > Maybe my face was shown to him, sometimes, somewhere earlier.
> >
> > Please do not ask for policemans number publicly.
>
> Sounds like you were not in a condition to drive and shouldn't have been
> driving in the first place. You admit to making a silly maneouver because
of
> your condition. GUILTY.
>
> You wanted to turn right, had a turn arrow, but continued to slow below
> 20Kph.  Sounds like you have no idea how to drive. The fact you admit to
> having experienced similar abuse before suggests you are an idiot with no
> idea how to drive safely.
>
> The fact you stopped because of the tooting proves your stupidity again. A
> horn is a warning device, if you hear it behind you it rarely means you
> should come to a complete stop. Usually it means, get out of the way.
>
> What the hell was your daughter doing with a child on her lap? Are you the
> moron family? People who do that don't deserve to breed and deserve
whatever
> happens through your idiotic driving.
>
> Sure the cop may have been rude, perhaps excessivelyt so,  but I think
it's
> high time cops were allowed to tell people just how stupid/dangerous they
> are. Perhaps those drivers will finally wake up to their shitty driving.
>
> Did he stop you last week? You imply that it's possible he did. Based on
> your admittedly shocking driving skills it wouldn't surprise me if he has
> dealt with you numerous times for your attempts at driving.
>
> Why are you dirving an unroadworthy car?
>
> Sit back and think about it:
>
> 1. You were in no condition to drive, and did so.
> 2. Your stupid daughter had a baby on her lap, and you allowed it.
> 3. You drove like a paranoid idiot with no real situational awareness
> 4. Failed to negotiate the most simplest of turns (with lights, under
20KPH)
> 5. Stopped for no particular reason when the cop tooted you (innapropriate
> response)
> 6. Proceeded merrily down the road until the cop indicated for you to
stop.
> 7. Were driving an unroadworthy vehicle.
>
> You Sir, are a menace to your entire family and everyone else on the road.
> Give up your license before you kill someone. The fact you cannot
recognise
> your own stupidity is mind boggling. The cop may have reacted beyond what
is
> expected but you deserved it for being so bloody dangerous.
>
> Don't blame him for your death defying driving.
>
> --
> The Raven
> ** Undisputed President of the ozemail.* NG's
> ** since August 15th 2000.
> ** Conqueror of the uunet.* NG's

In my first response in this thread I tried to be sympathetic and helpful,
but after Josip posted his latest response I have absolutely no sympathy for
him.  I still believe police should act like professionals in all
circumstances, that hasn't changed.  However, as Raven has pointed out,
Josip is a danger to everyone on the roads.  I have multiple medical
conditions, and if I don't feel up to driving (read that as 100% totally
focussed attention to driving, most people drive like morons and pay at most
50% attention to driving, I know what happens when vehicles collide, and I
hold myself to a higher standard), I get someone else to do it for me (wife,
family, friends, cab, etc).  It doesn't take a braniac to figure that out,
but apparently Josip lacks all concern for others and even his own family
(baby on lap???  are you that much of a moron Josip???).  He's also raising
a family of ingrates (your little shit of a kid flipped a cop the
bird...you're lucky he didn't go all LAPD on your sorry ass in front of her
and the baby Josip you dickweed).  Also, if you can't figure out how to keep
your vehicle roadworthy, Josip, you're a risk to everyone on the roads
regardless of your state of impairment/illness.  I know several diabetics
personally who have no trouble knowing when they need to manage their
chronic health condition, and knowing when they should and should not drive.
You apparently are too stupid to do either.  Again, Josip, I tried to be
sympathetic, but Raven is right, you need to get off the roads as you're a
threat to the health and safety of everyone.  Also, try and raise your
children not to be little shits like the one that flipped off the cop.

*sigh*

Ari

On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:45:48 +0800, "Tom" <fake@earth> wrote:


>>
>Its best you not drive if you are prone to spells, you might have or cause
>an accident that kills or injures someone else.

Whatever the wrongs of the policeman's behaviour, I'm
ASTONISHED that you are even allowed to drive with the sort
of health problem that you describe.

Not driving is the long term answer.  Sorry.

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