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In article <01bde961$e5d84f60$2e3ff1cf@thoroughbred>,
JJ <jjacobus@ponyx.com> wrote:
>I believe there is a problem with mail routing. EnterAct changed there mail
>system around yesterday. EnterAct's my web host service. For some reason I
>can't get mail from WWA to my domain name on EnterAct. I can mail from any
>other system with no problem.
>
>I (and EnterAct) checked this out by sending mail from various places
>(bu.edu, compuserve.com, aol.com). No problem. I only have a problem from
>my WWA account. Odd thing is that I'm not getting a MAILER-DAEMON message
>of "unknown host". Mail is just disappearing. I've sent mail from Eudora on
>my PC and PINE from the WWA server. This problem began late yesterday.
>
>I called Verio support last night. But had to hang up after being on hold
>for 40 minutes. I called again this morning around 9:30. After 45 minutes I
>got a tech. He told me there is nothing that can be done until the "real
>engineers" get back on Monday morning (I assume this means Sabrina, Tim,
>etc. in Chicago). So much for 7x24 support. 
>
>I was wondering if anyone else was having a similar problem. I'm pretty
>sure the problem is at WWA, but this is difficult to figure out. Not
>getting a bounce message from the DAEMON bothers me the most. I'm hoping
>that only message sent from WWA are getting vaporized.

Does Verio have a "spamblock" type of system in place?

(If it does, the next obvious question is "you CAN override it personally as
a customer, right?")

This should be easy for Enteract to test - they can telnet from their mail
host into the WWA/Verio SMTP port, MANUALLY transmit a message, and see if 
the appropriate "yeah, ok, we got it and will deliver it" message comes 
back from the SMTP server.

If it DOES, then the presumption is on the Verio/WWA server as being either
(1) intentionally blocked, or (2) broken.  If it does NOT, then the error
message at that level SHOULD HAVE been returned to you at Enteract (which
apparently didn't happen).

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I forwarded a few of usenet posts to myself from work yesterday (wwa >
wwa) that never arrived.  A peek in the ol' junkmail file reveals that
the spam is still getting through.

trent


JJ wrote:
> 
> I believe there is a problem with mail routing. EnterAct changed there mail
> system around yesterday. EnterAct's my web host service. For some reason I
> can't get mail from WWA to my domain name on EnterAct. I can mail from any
> other system with no problem.
> 
> I (and EnterAct) checked this out by sending mail from various places
> (bu.edu, compuserve.com, aol.com). No problem. I only have a problem from
> my WWA account. Odd thing is that I'm not getting a MAILER-DAEMON message
> of "unknown host". Mail is just disappearing. I've sent mail from Eudora on
> my PC and PINE from the WWA server. This problem began late yesterday.
> 
> I called Verio support last night. But had to hang up after being on hold
> for 40 minutes. I called again this morning around 9:30. After 45 minutes I
> got a tech. He told me there is nothing that can be done until the "real
> engineers" get back on Monday morning (I assume this means Sabrina, Tim,
> etc. in Chicago). So much for 7x24 support.
> 
> I was wondering if anyone else was having a similar problem. I'm pretty
> sure the problem is at WWA, but this is difficult to figure out. Not
> getting a bounce message from the DAEMON bothers me the most. I'm hoping
> that only message sent from WWA are getting vaporized.
> 
> Verio case #298307
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> You will be assimilated. - Resistance is futile - Have a nice day.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

I've been testing this out on my own since Verio/WWA won't look at it until
Monday.

The problem does appear to be a WWA only problem. When I sent a mail
message to my domain using Pine from the shell, I got a bounce back
MAILER-DAEMON message saying  "unknown domain". I was able to send mail
from other sources such as CompuServe, AOL and a couple other non-WWA
sources. I'm not clear on why I get the bounce back when using Pine and not
from Eudora but that may be another problem. 

Another interesting piece: I've sent several e-mails to support@wwa.com.
The return address is my domain name that is in question
(jjacobus@ponyx.com). The automated e-mails from the WWA support system are
getting to my domain, but e-mails that I send are not. The header shows
that support@wwa.com mail comes from maki.wwa.com. 

Are there multiple DNS tables to handle mail from different systems?
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You will be assimilated. - Resistance is futile - Have a nice day.
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trent <trent@wwaXXX.com> wrote in article <360D178A.127B@wwaXXX.com>...
> I forwarded a few of usenet posts to myself from work yesterday (wwa >
> wwa) that never arrived.  A peek in the ol' junkmail file reveals that
> the spam is still getting through.
> 
> trent
> 
> 
> JJ wrote:
> > 
> > I believe there is a problem with mail routing. EnterAct changed there
mail
> > system around yesterday. EnterAct's my web host service. For some
reason I
> > can't get mail from WWA to my domain name on EnterAct. I can mail from
any
> > other system with no problem.
> > 
> > I (and EnterAct) checked this out by sending mail from various places
> > (bu.edu, compuserve.com, aol.com). No problem. I only have a problem
from
> > my WWA account. Odd thing is that I'm not getting a MAILER-DAEMON
message
> > of "unknown host". Mail is just disappearing. I've sent mail from
Eudora on
> > my PC and PINE from the WWA server. This problem began late yesterday.
> > 
> > I called Verio support last night. But had to hang up after being on
hold
> > for 40 minutes. I called again this morning around 9:30. After 45
minutes I
> > got a tech. He told me there is nothing that can be done until the
"real
> > engineers" get back on Monday morning (I assume this means Sabrina,
Tim,
> > etc. in Chicago). So much for 7x24 support.
> > 
> > I was wondering if anyone else was having a similar problem. I'm pretty
> > sure the problem is at WWA, but this is difficult to figure out. Not
> > getting a bounce message from the DAEMON bothers me the most. I'm
hoping
> > that only message sent from WWA are getting vaporized.
> > 
> > Verio case #298307
> > --
> >
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> > You will be assimilated. - Resistance is futile - Have a nice day.
> >
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> 

Well, I'm just a private citizen now, so WWA stuff is really none of my
business, but... was ponyx.com once hosted by WWA? If so, I'll bet
dollars to doughnuts that it has something to do with that.

JJ wrote:
> 
> I've been testing this out on my own since Verio/WWA won't look at it until
> Monday.
> 
> The problem does appear to be a WWA only problem. When I sent a mail
> message to my domain using Pine from the shell, I got a bounce back
> MAILER-DAEMON message saying  "unknown domain". I was able to send mail
> from other sources such as CompuServe, AOL and a couple other non-WWA
> sources. I'm not clear on why I get the bounce back when using Pine and not
> from Eudora but that may be another problem.
> 
> Another interesting piece: I've sent several e-mails to support@wwa.com.
> The return address is my domain name that is in question
> (jjacobus@ponyx.com). The automated e-mails from the WWA support system are
> getting to my domain, but e-mails that I send are not. The header shows
> that support@wwa.com mail comes from maki.wwa.com.
> 
> Are there multiple DNS tables to handle mail from different systems?

In article <01bde961$e5d84f60$2e3ff1cf@thoroughbred>, "JJ" <jjacobus@ponyx.com> wrote:
>I believe there is a problem with mail routing. EnterAct changed there mail
>system around yesterday. EnterAct's my web host service. For some reason I
>can't get mail from WWA to my domain name on EnterAct. I can mail from any
>other system with no problem.
>
>I (and EnterAct) checked this out by sending mail from various places
>(bu.edu, compuserve.com, aol.com). No problem. I only have a problem from
>my WWA account. Odd thing is that I'm not getting a MAILER-DAEMON message
>of "unknown host". Mail is just disappearing. I've sent mail from Eudora on
>my PC and PINE from the WWA server. This problem began late yesterday.
>
>I called Verio support last night. But had to hang up after being on hold
>for 40 minutes. I called again this morning around 9:30. After 45 minutes I
>got a tech. He told me there is nothing that can be done until the "real
>engineers" get back on Monday morning (I assume this means Sabrina, Tim,
>etc. in Chicago). So much for 7x24 support. 
>
>I was wondering if anyone else was having a similar problem. I'm pretty
>sure the problem is at WWA, but this is difficult to figure out. Not
>getting a bounce message from the DAEMON bothers me the most. I'm hoping
>that only message sent from WWA are getting vaporized.
>
>Verio case #298307

Moments ago I sent mail from pine on my WWA account to my account at EnterAct. 
All test message were received at EnterAct. This popmail changeover is a pain. 
Be sure to set your POP address in Eudora to login@pop.enteract.com. DO NOT 
use login@enteract.com you will not see your incoming mail.