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8 total messages Started by kaikow Sun, 06 Aug 1995 05:33
SCSI, is Micron or Gateway better?
#1
Author: kaikow
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 1995 05:33
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Yes, I know that it is not difficult to install a SCSI adapter.
However, I am investigating this for a purchase by my sister. She wants
a prepackaged system and does not want to install anything inside the case.

She will be getting a heavily loaded Pentium 133, as she will likely 
(ab)use the system for years to come. As of this moment, the choice seems 
to be between Gateway and Micron.

I noticed that Micron has systems prepackaged with the Buslogic BT 946C 
and Gateway offers the option of the Adaptec 2940.

In the hardware compatability list for Win 95, Microsoft indicated some 
anamolies for the Adaptec 2940, but none for the Buslogic 946C.

What have been your experiences with these systems?

Do you know if Gateway or Micron offer other options for SCSI?
Re: SCSI, is Micron or Gateway better?
#2
Author: Harvey Fishman
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 1995 16:27
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In <DCvJG1.H2L@mv.mv.com> kaikow@standards.com says

> Yes, I know that it is not difficult to install a SCSI adapter.
> However, I am investigating this for a purchase by my sister. She wants
> a prepackaged system and does not want to install anything inside the case.
> 
> She will be getting a heavily loaded Pentium 133, as she will likely 
> (ab)use the system for years to come. As of this moment, the choice seems 
> to be between Gateway and Micron.
> 
> I noticed that Micron has systems prepackaged with the Buslogic BT 946C 
> and Gateway offers the option of the Adaptec 2940.
> 
> In the hardware compatability list for Win 95, Microsoft indicated some 
> anamolies for the Adaptec 2940, but none for the Buslogic 946C.
> 
> What have been your experiences with these systems?
> 
> Do you know if Gateway or Micron offer other options for SCSI?

Micron offers the choice of the BusLogic host adapter or none at all.  I
bought a Millenia 100 a few months ago, but elected the none at all choice
because I wanted the Adaptec host adapter and a 'Cuda 4 drive that Micron
did not offer.  I chose Micron because of their use of Micronics made
system boards.  I have not been sorry for my choice.

I purchased the Adaptec and 'Cuda 4 separately for quite a bit less than
Micron would have charged for the BusLogic card and unstated brand 4 GB
drive. 

But my usage is OS/2 rather than DOS or Win95.

Harvey

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Re: SCSI, is Micron or Gateway better?
#3
Author: Daniel Polfer
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 1995 17:52
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In article <402qhr$ppq@panix.com>, fishman@panix.com (Harvey Fishman) says:
>
>In <DCvJG1.H2L@mv.mv.com> kaikow@standards.com says
>
>> Do you know if Gateway or Micron offer other options for SCSI?
>
>Micron offers the choice of the BusLogic host adapter or none at all.  I
>bought a Millenia 100 a few months ago, but elected the none at all choice
>because I wanted the Adaptec host adapter and a 'Cuda 4 drive that Micron
>did not offer.  I chose Micron because of their use of Micronics made
>system boards.  I have not been sorry for my choice.
>
>I purchased the Adaptec and 'Cuda 4 separately for quite a bit less than
>Micron would have charged for the BusLogic card and unstated brand 4 GB
>drive. 
>
>But my usage is OS/2 rather than DOS or Win95.
>
>Harvey

I just purchased a Gateway 120 and I did purchase the SCSI option on it.
I had a personal preference for the Intel motherboard and thought the
bundle price for their 2GB Seagate Barracuda and 2940 was pretty good.
Another bonus on the Gateway was a dual enhanced IDE controller on the
motherboard.  I boot off the 2GB SCSI drive, but I have the 3CD ATAPI
CDROM changer on the secondary IDE controller!  I REALLY like this because
I can even add IDE hard drives which show up AFTER the SCSI disk.

I'm running both Windows for Workgroups and Win95.  WFWG works fine with
the changer, but there are still problems using the changer with Win95.
Gateway seems to think these will be resolved by the final cut but I have
my doubts.  Anyway, there are workarounds where you can still use the
changer.  Overall I am very pleased with the system and haven't had any
problems (besides the CD) on WFWG, Win95, or even NT (I've run that too).

Dan
Re: SCSI, is Micron or Gateway better?
#4
Author: Daniel Polfer
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1995 01:22
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In article <402vhd$jjp@comet.magicnet.net>, polfer@magicnet.net (Daniel Polfer) says:
>. . .
>bundle price for their 2GB Seagate Barracuda and 2940 was pretty good.
>. . .

Well, I messed up.  Thanks to Peter Diaz de Leon for pointing out that
the drive in my machine is actually a Seagate 32430N which is NOT a
Barracuda.  It is a Hawk 2LP.  Sorry for the misinformation...

Dan
Re: SCSI, is Micron or Gateway better?
#5
Author: Mike Keating
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 1995 08:37
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I've been using the P133 with Win95 for over a month without any problems.

- Mike
Re: SCSI, is Micron or Gateway better?
#6
Author: Walt Buehring
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 01:13
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Note that if you want a SCSI CD-ROM, Gateway does not offer one.
Re: SCSI, is Micron or Gateway better?
#8
Author: kaikow
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 12:20
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One can buy a system without a CD-ROM and get a SCSI adapter too.

In article <2ypwifj2ut.fsf@dfw.net>, Walt Buehring <fuzz@dfw.dfw.net> wrote:
>Note that if you want a SCSI CD-ROM, Gateway does not offer one.
>
Re: SCSI, is Micron or Gateway better?
#7
Author: Anthony Frey
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 13:48
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> In <DCvJG1.H2L@mv.mv.com> kaikow@standards.com says
> > Yes, I know that it is not difficult to install a SCSI adapter.
> > However, I am investigating this for a purchase by my sister. She wants
> > a prepackaged system and does not want to install anything inside the
case.
> > 
> > She will be getting a heavily loaded Pentium 133, as she will likely 
> > (ab)use the system for years to come. As of this moment, the choice seems 
> > to be between Gateway and Micron.
> > 
> > I noticed that Micron has systems prepackaged with the Buslogic BT 946C 
> > and Gateway offers the option of the Adaptec 2940.
> > 
> > In the hardware compatability list for Win 95, Microsoft indicated some 
> > anamolies for the Adaptec 2940, but none for the Buslogic 946C.
> > 
> > What have been your experiences with these systems?
> > 
> > Do you know if Gateway or Micron offer other options for SCSI?

First of all, when I did my initial research for my new system,
Gateway would not even sell me a SCSI option. They said they didn't
have them. I don't know if that's their policy or if it was an error
but I went with Micron instead.

And let me tell you, am I glad that I did. So far I've installed
MSDOS/WINDOWS once, Linux twice, and OS/2 four times. Only for the
MSDOS install did I have to even reach for my BusLogic driver disk.
And that's a good thing :-).  SCSI CD-ROM, same thing. (BTW, all of
the reinstalls were because I kept futzing with OS's and partitions,
not because of the equipment or original installation).

All around, Micron packs a high quality, well configured set of
components that minimizes incompatabilities, especially when running
varied systems. I can't help beaming because I'm still impressed. Of
course, your mileage may vary.

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