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"digedag" <uwe@barthoff.de> wrote in message
news:47783607@newsgroups.borland.com...

> when i installed BDS 2006, there was a clear message
> that C++ must be used with Indy version 9.

That was true.  Indy 10 had not been updated to support C++ yet at the time
BDS 2006 was released.

> however, some postings here suggest that C++ can be used
> with Indy version 10.

With a much newer release of Indy 10, yes.  Not with the one that shipped
with BDS 2006.  Or the one that shipped with RAD 2007, for that matter, as
it is the same as the BDS 2006 release.

> is it possible to simply add Indy version 10 and run it with C++ ?

You have to fully remove the copy of Indy 10 that shipped with BDS/RAD, and
then install the latest Indy 10 snapshot fresh.  But yes, you can use an
up-to-date Indy 10 in C++ now.


Gambit

hi remy,
thanks a lot !
do you also have some hints on how to 'fully remove' the old v10 and install
the new v10 ?
i sensed from the other postings, that the installation for c++ is not very
straightforward.
thanks
uwe

"Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message 
news:477884c7$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
> "digedag" <uwe@barthoff.de> wrote in message
> news:47783607@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
>> when i installed BDS 2006, there was a clear message
>> that C++ must be used with Indy version 9.
>
> That was true.  Indy 10 had not been updated to support C++ yet at the 
> time
> BDS 2006 was released.
>
>> however, some postings here suggest that C++ can be used
>> with Indy version 10.
>
> With a much newer release of Indy 10, yes.  Not with the one that shipped
> with BDS 2006.  Or the one that shipped with RAD 2007, for that matter, as
> it is the same as the BDS 2006 release.
>
>> is it possible to simply add Indy version 10 and run it with C++ ?
>
> You have to fully remove the copy of Indy 10 that shipped with BDS/RAD, 
> and
> then install the latest Indy 10 snapshot fresh.  But yes, you can use an
> up-to-date Indy 10 in C++ now.
>
>
> Gambit
>
> 

We have RAD 2007 and are converting to Indy 10.  we are compiling just fine 
with the Indy 10 that came with the RAD Enterprise Studio 2007.

Are you sure about the "Or the one that shipped with RAD 2007, for that 
matter, as it is the same as the BDS 2006 release"
you made?

Larry Griffiths

"Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message 
news:477884c7$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
> "digedag" <uwe@barthoff.de> wrote in message
> news:47783607@newsgroups.borland.com...
>

>
> With a much newer release of Indy 10, yes.  Not with the one that shipped
> with BDS 2006.  Or the one that shipped with RAD 2007, for that matter, as
> it is the same as the BDS 2006 release.
>
>> is it possible to simply add Indy version 10 and run it with C++ ?
>
> You have to fully remove the copy of Indy 10 that shipped with BDS/RAD, 
> and
> then install the latest Indy 10 snapshot fresh.  But yes, you can use an
> up-to-date Indy 10 in C++ now.
>
>
> Gambit
>
> 

"Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
news:47839343$1@newsgroups.borland.com...

> Are you sure about the "Or the one that shipped with RAD 2007,
> for that matter, as it is the same as the BDS 2006 release" you made?

Yes, I am sure.  The Indy team could not get a new stable version ready in 
time for RAD 2007's release, so CodeGear shipped RAD 2007 with the same Indy 
10 release that shipped with BDS 2006.  That older Indy release was not 
C++-enabled.  If you are able to use it in C++, then good for you, but you 
are still using an outdated version of Indy anyway.


Gambit 

What does "C++ Enabled" mean?
Also, what does "Stable" mean?

I am in a pinch because I am on the new BDS2007 compiler and have a robot 
interface for a customer that I need to get working again in a week or so.
I converted the code to the Indy 10 but have not been able to get a socket 
connection yet.

Thanks for your quick reply, Gambit.

Larry Griffiths.




"Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message 
news:4783b9a6$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
> "Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
> news:47839343$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
>> Are you sure about the "Or the one that shipped with RAD 2007,
>> for that matter, as it is the same as the BDS 2006 release" you made?
>
> Yes, I am sure.  The Indy team could not get a new stable version ready in 
> time for RAD 2007's release, so CodeGear shipped RAD 2007 with the same 
> Indy 10 release that shipped with BDS 2006.  That older Indy release was 
> not C++-enabled.  If you are able to use it in C++, then good for you, but 
> you are still using an outdated version of Indy anyway.
>
>
> Gambit
> 

"Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
news:4783c49f@newsgroups.borland.com...

> What does "C++ Enabled" mean?

It means that were things in Indy's source code that did not work in C++ due 
to compiler errors and had to be re-written.

> I am in a pinch because I am on the new BDS2007 compiler and
> have a robot interface for a customer that I need to get working
> again in a week or so.

Then I suggest you upgrade to the latest Indy 10 snapshot to make sure you 
have the latest bug fixes and such.  Like I said earlier, what ships with 
RAD 2007 is outdated.

> I converted the code to the Indy 10 but have not been able to
> get a socket connection yet.

Why not?


Gambit 

Larry,

Take a look at the thread labeled "Update Indy10 in C++ Builder 2007"
(roladdon, 12/16/2007) in this newsgroup. The author of that post has been
able to install the updated version of Indy10, and he has posted his batch
files for deleting files and building the new version. Toward the bottom of
the thread there are two messages from roladdon that contain batch files for
1) backing up and removing the old version and 2) building and installing a
new version. I haven't been able to get it to work yet. If you try it,
please let us know your experience and any tips if you do get it to work. It
would be a big help to everyone if a documented and tested installation
procedure could be produced.

Joe



"Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4783c49f@newsgroups.borland.com...
> What does "C++ Enabled" mean?
> Also, what does "Stable" mean?
>
> I am in a pinch because I am on the new BDS2007 compiler and have a robot
> interface for a customer that I need to get working again in a week or so.
> I converted the code to the Indy 10 but have not been able to get a socket
> connection yet.
>
> Thanks for your quick reply, Gambit.
>
> Larry Griffiths.
>
>
>
>
> "Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:4783b9a6$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> >
> > "Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:47839343$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> >
> >> Are you sure about the "Or the one that shipped with RAD 2007,
> >> for that matter, as it is the same as the BDS 2006 release" you made?
> >
> > Yes, I am sure.  The Indy team could not get a new stable version ready
in
> > time for RAD 2007's release, so CodeGear shipped RAD 2007 with the same
> > Indy 10 release that shipped with BDS 2006.  That older Indy release was
> > not C++-enabled.  If you are able to use it in C++, then good for you,
but
> > you are still using an outdated version of Indy anyway.
> >
> >
> > Gambit
> >
>
>

I have been able to telnet to the server part of the application but I get 
an error with TIdTCPClient->Connect( 10000 ).

It gives me a socket error of 11001.

"Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message 
news:4783d7f0$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
> "Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
> news:4783c49f@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
>
>> I converted the code to the Indy 10 but have not been able to
>> get a socket connection yet.
>
> Why not?
>
>
> Gambit
> 

Thanks for the Info, Joe, but I am getting the feeling that I should drop 
back
to the Indy 9 version.  Our life is complex enough with 1300 units of code
in our application.  I would rather get a stable working product available
for internal testing and then for release to customers before adding
another straw to the camels back.  I did watch that "Your code is c.r.a.p."
video after all.  LOL


"Joe Pasquariello" <joep@fenway.com> wrote in message 
news:4783da25$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Larry,
>
> Take a look at the thread labeled "Update Indy10 in C++ Builder 2007"
> (roladdon, 12/16/2007) in this newsgroup. The author of that post has been
> able to install the updated version of Indy10, and he has posted his batch
> files for deleting files and building the new version. Toward the bottom 
> of
> the thread there are two messages from roladdon that contain batch files 
> for
> 1) backing up and removing the old version and 2) building and installing 
> a
> new version. I haven't been able to get it to work yet. If you try it,
> please let us know your experience and any tips if you do get it to work. 
> It
> would be a big help to everyone if a documented and tested installation
> procedure could be produced.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> "Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:4783c49f@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> What does "C++ Enabled" mean?
>> Also, what does "Stable" mean?
>>
>> I am in a pinch because I am on the new BDS2007 compiler and have a robot
>> interface for a customer that I need to get working again in a week or 
>> so.
>> I converted the code to the Indy 10 but have not been able to get a 
>> socket
>> connection yet.
>>
>> Thanks for your quick reply, Gambit.
>>
>> Larry Griffiths.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:4783b9a6$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> >
>> > "Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> > news:47839343$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> >
>> >> Are you sure about the "Or the one that shipped with RAD 2007,
>> >> for that matter, as it is the same as the BDS 2006 release" you made?
>> >
>> > Yes, I am sure.  The Indy team could not get a new stable version ready
> in
>> > time for RAD 2007's release, so CodeGear shipped RAD 2007 with the same
>> > Indy 10 release that shipped with BDS 2006.  That older Indy release 
>> > was
>> > not C++-enabled.  If you are able to use it in C++, then good for you,
> but
>> > you are still using an outdated version of Indy anyway.
>> >
>> >
>> > Gambit
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 

"Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
news:4783e4d0$1@newsgroups.borland.com...

> I get an error with TIdTCPClient->Connect( 10000 ).
>
> It gives me a socket error of 11001.

11001 is WSAHOST_NOT_FOUND.  The TIdTCPClient::Host property is likely not 
set to a correct value.


Gambit 

Yes, this is what 11001 means.  I can telnet to 127.0.0.1 7000 but I set the 
TIdTCPClient Host to 127.0.0.1 and the Port to 7000 and set
do the TIdTCPClient->Connect( 10000 ). The result of course is the dreaded 
11001 socket error.

I just downloaded the latest Indy and it will not compile the Protocols with 
BDS2007 with the Dec. 17th Patch on.

Larry.


"Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message 
news:4783ef2f@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
> "Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
> news:4783e4d0$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
>> I get an error with TIdTCPClient->Connect( 10000 ).
>>
>> It gives me a socket error of 11001.
>
> 11001 is WSAHOST_NOT_FOUND.  The TIdTCPClient::Host property is likely not 
> set to a correct value.
>
>
> Gambit
> 

Oops, meant to paste the Protocols compilation error messages...


[DCC Error] IdNTLM.pas(175): E2029 Identifier expected but 'USES' found
[DCC Error] IdNTLM.pas(176): E2029 '=' expected but ';' found
[DCC Error] IdNTLM.pas(236): E2003 Undeclared identifier: 'des_key_schedule'
[DCC Error] IdNTLM.pas(254): E2004 Identifier redeclared: 'IdGlobal'
[DCC Error] IdHash.pas(66): E2065 Unsatisfied forward or external 
declaration: 'TIdHash.GetHashBytes'
[DCC Error] IdHash.pas(67): E2065 Unsatisfied forward or external 
declaration: 'TIdHash.HashToHex'
[DCC Error] IdHash.pas(91): E2065 Unsatisfied forward or external 
declaration: 'TIdHash16.HashStart'
[DCC Error] IdHash.pas(93): E2065 Unsatisfied forward or external 
declaration: 'TIdHash16.HashByte'
[DCC Error] IdHash.pas(105): E2065 Unsatisfied forward or external 
declaration: 'TIdHash32.HashStart'
[DCC Error] IdHash.pas(107): E2065 Unsatisfied forward or external 
declaration: 'TIdHash32.HashByte'
[DCC Error] IdNTLM.pas(256): F2063 Could not compile used unit 'IdHash.pas'

"Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
news:4783efff$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Yes, this is what 11001 means.  I can telnet to 127.0.0.1 7000 but I set 
> the TIdTCPClient Host to 127.0.0.1 and the Port to 7000 and set
> do the TIdTCPClient->Connect( 10000 ). The result of course is the dreaded 
> 11001 socket error.
>
> I just downloaded the latest Indy and it will not compile the Protocols 
> with BDS2007 with the Dec. 17th Patch on.
>
> Larry.
>
>
> "Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message 
> news:4783ef2f@newsgroups.borland.com...
>>
>> "Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
>> news:4783e4d0$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>>
>>> I get an error with TIdTCPClient->Connect( 10000 ).
>>>
>>> It gives me a socket error of 11001.
>>
>> 11001 is WSAHOST_NOT_FOUND.  The TIdTCPClient::Host property is likely 
>> not set to a correct value.
>>
>>
>> Gambit
>>
>
> 

"Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
news:4783efff$1@newsgroups.borland.com...

> Yes, this is what 11001 means.  I can telnet to 127.0.0.1 7000 but
> I set the TIdTCPClient Host to 127.0.0.1 and the Port to 7000 and
> set do the TIdTCPClient->Connect( 10000 ). The result of course
> is the dreaded 11001 socket error.

Works fine for me when I just tried it.

Have you tried using "localhost" or the actual machine name yet?  Have you 
tried stepping through Indy's code in the debugger yet?

> I just downloaded the latest Indy and it will not compile the
> Protocols with BDS2007 with the Dec. 17th Patch on.

Why not?  You need to be more specific.


Gambit 

"Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
news:4783f09d$1@newsgroups.borland.com...

> Oops, meant to paste the Protocols compilation error messages...

I have fixed the errors in my local copy and I will upload them when I have 
some free time to do so.


Gambit 

But you are not using the Indy 10 that came with the RAD Studio 7, correct?

I am using the Indy 10 that came with Rad Studio 7  with C++.

"Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message 
news:478409f7$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
> "Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
> news:4783efff$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>
>> Yes, this is what 11001 means.  I can telnet to 127.0.0.1 7000 but
>> I set the TIdTCPClient Host to 127.0.0.1 and the Port to 7000 and
>> set do the TIdTCPClient->Connect( 10000 ). The result of course
>> is the dreaded 11001 socket error.
>
> Works fine for me when I just tried it.
>
> Have you tried using "localhost" or the actual machine name yet?  Have you 
> tried stepping through Indy's code in the debugger yet?
>
>> I just downloaded the latest Indy and it will not compile the
>> Protocols with BDS2007 with the Dec. 17th Patch on.
>
> Why not?  You need to be more specific.
>
>
> Gambit
> 

Hi Larry,

I have to agree with you. I may do the same, despite the additional
capabilities of Indy10. Perhaps in the next release of RAD (2008?), there
will be a stable version of Indy10.

Joe


"Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4783e6da$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Thanks for the Info, Joe, but I am getting the feeling that I should drop
> back
> to the Indy 9 version.  Our life is complex enough with 1300 units of code
> in our application.  I would rather get a stable working product available
> for internal testing and then for release to customers before adding
> another straw to the camels back.  I did watch that "Your code is
c.r.a.p."
> video after all.  LOL
>
>
> "Joe Pasquariello" <joep@fenway.com> wrote in message
> news:4783da25$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> > Larry,
> >
> > Take a look at the thread labeled "Update Indy10 in C++ Builder 2007"
> > (roladdon, 12/16/2007) in this newsgroup. The author of that post has
been
> > able to install the updated version of Indy10, and he has posted his
batch
> > files for deleting files and building the new version. Toward the bottom
> > of
> > the thread there are two messages from roladdon that contain batch files
> > for
> > 1) backing up and removing the old version and 2) building and
installing
> > a
> > new version. I haven't been able to get it to work yet. If you try it,
> > please let us know your experience and any tips if you do get it to
work.
> > It
> > would be a big help to everyone if a documented and tested installation
> > procedure could be produced.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > "Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:4783c49f@newsgroups.borland.com...
> >> What does "C++ Enabled" mean?
> >> Also, what does "Stable" mean?
> >>
> >> I am in a pinch because I am on the new BDS2007 compiler and have a
robot
> >> interface for a customer that I need to get working again in a week or
> >> so.
> >> I converted the code to the Indy 10 but have not been able to get a
> >> socket
> >> connection yet.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your quick reply, Gambit.
> >>
> >> Larry Griffiths.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4783b9a6$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> >> >
> >> > "Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:47839343$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> >> >
> >> >> Are you sure about the "Or the one that shipped with RAD 2007,
> >> >> for that matter, as it is the same as the BDS 2006 release" you
made?
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I am sure.  The Indy team could not get a new stable version
ready
> > in
> >> > time for RAD 2007's release, so CodeGear shipped RAD 2007 with the
same
> >> > Indy 10 release that shipped with BDS 2006.  That older Indy release
> >> > was
> >> > not C++-enabled.  If you are able to use it in C++, then good for
you,
> > but
> >> > you are still using an outdated version of Indy anyway.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Gambit
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

"Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
news:4784d617$1@newsgroups.borland.com...

> But you are not using the Indy 10 that came with the RAD Studio 7, 
> correct?

No, I am not.  As I have said before, what ships with RAD 2007 is not the 
latest.  I am using the latest daily snapshot of Indy 10 instead.


Gambit 

Well, we are back on Indy 9 under BDS2007 and I tested my new interface with 
a new Pharmacy dispensing robot that a customer will be using shortly.

If I remember correctly I ead about a problem in QC that I think was about 
"Fatal Linker error" and it suggested that Indy 10 might be the cause of it.

http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=39596

Larry Griffiths


"Joe Pasquariello" <joep@fenway.com> wrote in message 
news:4784ff69$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
> Hi Larry,
>
> I have to agree with you. I may do the same, despite the additional
> capabilities of Indy10. Perhaps in the next release of RAD (2008?), there
> will be a stable version of Indy10.
>
> Joe
>
>
> "Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:4783e6da$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> Thanks for the Info, Joe, but I am getting the feeling that I should drop
>> back
>> to the Indy 9 version.  Our life is complex enough with 1300 units of 
>> code
>> in our application.  I would rather get a stable working product 
>> available
>> for internal testing and then for release to customers before adding
>> another straw to the camels back.  I did watch that "Your code is
> c.r.a.p."
>> video after all.  LOL
>>
>>
>> "Joe Pasquariello" <joep@fenway.com> wrote in message
>> news:4783da25$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> > Larry,
>> >
>> > Take a look at the thread labeled "Update Indy10 in C++ Builder 2007"
>> > (roladdon, 12/16/2007) in this newsgroup. The author of that post has
> been
>> > able to install the updated version of Indy10, and he has posted his
> batch
>> > files for deleting files and building the new version. Toward the 
>> > bottom
>> > of
>> > the thread there are two messages from roladdon that contain batch 
>> > files
>> > for
>> > 1) backing up and removing the old version and 2) building and
> installing
>> > a
>> > new version. I haven't been able to get it to work yet. If you try it,
>> > please let us know your experience and any tips if you do get it to
> work.
>> > It
>> > would be a big help to everyone if a documented and tested installation
>> > procedure could be produced.
>> >
>> > Joe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> > news:4783c49f@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> >> What does "C++ Enabled" mean?
>> >> Also, what does "Stable" mean?
>> >>
>> >> I am in a pinch because I am on the new BDS2007 compiler and have a
> robot
>> >> interface for a customer that I need to get working again in a week or
>> >> so.
>> >> I converted the code to the Indy 10 but have not been able to get a
>> >> socket
>> >> connection yet.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your quick reply, Gambit.
>> >>
>> >> Larry Griffiths.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Remy Lebeau (TeamB)" <no.spam@no.spam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:4783b9a6$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Larry Griffiths" <nospame@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:47839343$1@newsgroups.borland.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >> Are you sure about the "Or the one that shipped with RAD 2007,
>> >> >> for that matter, as it is the same as the BDS 2006 release" you
> made?
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, I am sure.  The Indy team could not get a new stable version
> ready
>> > in
>> >> > time for RAD 2007's release, so CodeGear shipped RAD 2007 with the
> same
>> >> > Indy 10 release that shipped with BDS 2006.  That older Indy release
>> >> > was
>> >> > not C++-enabled.  If you are able to use it in C++, then good for
> you,
>> > but
>> >> > you are still using an outdated version of Indy anyway.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Gambit
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 

I'm using indy 9.0.50 on BCB 2006, and having this exception,
the last information that I know, it was necessary to use two dll
with the application.

libeay32.dll
ssleay32.dll

But I'm still getting the exceptions, there are some news of this?


[]'s
Leo