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On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:

> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
> U.S.
> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
> 
Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just 
survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free market 
system?

Instead, being the fascist dirtbag you are, you just try to compare the 
tens of millions of people you fucked over to animals.

But they're Americans.  They don't deserve any better.
> "Socialism is the philosophy of failure,  the creed of ignorance, and
> the gospel of envy!"

On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000, 3082 Dead wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
> 
>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
>> U.S.
>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
>> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
>> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
>> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
>> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
>> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
>> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>> 
> Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
> survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free market
> system?

Idiot.  Just because the government offers free crack money and people 
take them up on the offer does *NOT* means they *NEED* it.

In the old days, most Americans had pride and would rather starve before 
going on the dole.  Today, the stigma of being on the dole has 
evaporated, and so have the criteria to qualify.  Any fool who can remove 
his buttocks from the couch long enough to shuffle down to the welfare 
office now qualifies, and you use the fact that the standards have been 
lowered as evidence that some sort of "crisis" exists.
> 
> Instead, being the fascist dirtbag you are, you just try to compare the
> tens of millions of people you fucked over to animals.

No, it is *YOU* who compare people to animals.  Human beings have free 
will and dignity, animals don't.  Under socialism, people are nothing 
more than domesticated animals, to be fed, clothed and sheltered by Big 
Shepherd.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
>
>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
>> U.S.
>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
>> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
>> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
>> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
>> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
>> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
>> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>> 
>Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just 
>survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free market 
>system?

Actually it's a colossal failure of the Democrats social programs that
teaches lazy losers like Zepp that he has a right to be taken care of.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000, 3082 Dead wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
> 
>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
>> U.S.
>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
>> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
>> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
>> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
>> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
>> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
>> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>> 
> Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
> survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free market
> system?
> 
> Instead, being the fascist dirtbag you are, you just try to compare the
> tens of millions of people you fucked over to animals.
> 
> But they're Americans.  They don't deserve any better.
>> "Socialism is the philosophy of failure,  the creed of ignorance, and
>> the gospel of envy!"

The point of how ironic the post comes across a point is obviosly lost on 
you. Not surpising. Reminds me of the lottery winner that took home 500K 
after taxes and still felt she was entitled to food stamps. She now owned 
2 homes and a car she paid cash for. She was quoted as saying, "I have 
epenses and no job."

On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:05:03 -0500, Dänk 42Ø wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000, 3082 Dead wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
>> 
>>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
>>> U.S.
>>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
>>> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
>>> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
>>> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
>>> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
>>> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
>>> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>>> 
>> Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
>> survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free
>> market system?
> 
> Idiot.  Just because the government offers free crack money and people
> take them up on the offer does *NOT* means they *NEED* it.
> 
> In the old days, most Americans had pride and would rather starve before
> going on the dole.  Today, the stigma of being on the dole has
> evaporated, and so have the criteria to qualify.  Any fool who can
> remove his buttocks from the couch long enough to shuffle down to the
> welfare office now qualifies, and you use the fact that the standards
> have been lowered as evidence that some sort of "crisis" exists.
>> 
>> Instead, being the fascist dirtbag you are, you just try to compare the
>> tens of millions of people you fucked over to animals.
> 
> No, it is *YOU* who compare people to animals.  Human beings have free
> will and dignity, animals don't.  Under socialism, people are nothing
> more than domesticated animals, to be fed, clothed and sheltered by Big
> Shepherd.

Couldn't have said it better

On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:50:47 -0500, Ken Marino <kphandy@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:05:03 -0500, D�nk 42� wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000, 3082 Dead wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
>>>> U.S.
>>>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>>>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
>>>> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
>>>> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
>>>> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
>>>> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
>>>> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
>>>> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>>>> 
>>> Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
>>> survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free
>>> market system?
>> 
>> Idiot.  Just because the government offers free crack money and people
>> take them up on the offer does *NOT* means they *NEED* it.
>> 
>> In the old days, most Americans had pride and would rather starve before
>> going on the dole.  Today, the stigma of being on the dole has
>> evaporated, and so have the criteria to qualify.  Any fool who can
>> remove his buttocks from the couch long enough to shuffle down to the
>> welfare office now qualifies, and you use the fact that the standards
>> have been lowered as evidence that some sort of "crisis" exists.
>>> 
>>> Instead, being the fascist dirtbag you are, you just try to compare the
>>> tens of millions of people you fucked over to animals.
>> 
>> No, it is *YOU* who compare people to animals.  Human beings have free
>> will and dignity, animals don't.  Under socialism, people are nothing
>> more than domesticated animals, to be fed, clothed and sheltered by Big
>> Shepherd.
>
>Couldn't have said it better


Leftists think freedom means living like a four year old child, with
no responsibilities and having all your needs covered by your
parents...

On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:50:47 -0500, Ken Marino wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:05:03 -0500, Dänk 42Ø wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000, 3082 Dead wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
>>> 
>>>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
>>>> U.S.
>>>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>>>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
>>>> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
>>>> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
>>>> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
>>>> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
>>>> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
>>>> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>>>> 
>>> Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
>>> survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free
>>> market system?
>> 
>> Idiot.  Just because the government offers free crack money and people
>> take them up on the offer does *NOT* means they *NEED* it.
>> 
>> In the old days, most Americans had pride and would rather starve
>> before going on the dole.  Today, the stigma of being on the dole has
>> evaporated, and so have the criteria to qualify.  Any fool who can
>> remove his buttocks from the couch long enough to shuffle down to the
>> welfare office now qualifies, and you use the fact that the standards
>> have been lowered as evidence that some sort of "crisis" exists.
>>> 
>>> Instead, being the fascist dirtbag you are, you just try to compare
>>> the tens of millions of people you fucked over to animals.
>> 
>> No, it is *YOU* who compare people to animals.  Human beings have free
>> will and dignity, animals don't.  Under socialism, people are nothing
>> more than domesticated animals, to be fed, clothed and sheltered by Big
>> Shepherd.
> 
> Couldn't have said it better

So where are the fucking jobs?

One of you toy fascists might want to answer that.

In article <LvCdnXr8SdvYDIzNnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Ken Marino <kphandy@earthlink.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000, 3082 Dead wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
> > 
> >> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
> >> U.S.
> >> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
> >> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
> >> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
> >> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
> >> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
> >> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
> >> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
> >> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
> >> 
> > Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
> > survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free market
> > system?
> > 
> > Instead, being the fascist dirtbag you are, you just try to compare the
> > tens of millions of people you fucked over to animals.
> > 
> > But they're Americans.  They don't deserve any better.
> >> "Socialism is the philosophy of failure,  the creed of ignorance, and
> >> the gospel of envy!"
> 
> The point of how ironic the post comes across a point is obviosly lost on 
> you. Not surpising. Reminds me of the lottery winner that took home 500K 
> after taxes and still felt she was entitled to food stamps. She now owned 
> 2 homes and a car she paid cash for. She was quoted as saying, "I have 
> epenses and no job."

Hey, alligator mouth, you got a citation for that?

“When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why 
the poor have no food, they call you a communist.”
-Archbishop Helder Camara

In any event, if she exists, she was going for chump change when you 
consider the big boys.
-----

Total retirement assets, Americans' second-largest household asset, 
dropped by 22 percent, from $10.3 trillion in 2006 to $8 trillion in 
mid-2008. During the same period, savings and investment assets (apart 
from retirement savings) lost $1.2 trillion and pension assets lost $1.3 
trillion. Taken together, these losses total $8.3 trillion.

The above doesn't include the $9.2 trillion in federal commitment to 
banks as of Oct, 2011.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/elizabeth-warren-libor-fraud-expo
ses-a-rotten-financial-system/2012/07/19/gJQAvDnDwW_story.html>
Libor fraud exposes Wall Street’s rotten core
On any given day, $800 trillion worth of credit-related transactions are 
linked to Libor rates.

And who can forget the bailout.
<http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aGq2B3XeGKok>
U.S. Taxpayers Risk $9.7 Trillion on Bailout Programs
(Dubya already had driven the bail-out to over $7 trillion.)

A little seedier is HSBC's laundry operation.
In the New York Times business section, we read that the HSBC banking 
group is being fined up to $1bn, for not preventing money-laundering (a 
highly profitable activity not to prevent) between 2004 and 2010 – a six 
years' long "oops".
<http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/14/global-financial-fra
ud-gatekeepers>

During the savings-and-loan scandal of the 1980s—a scandal whose 
dimensions, by today’s standards, seem almost quaint—the banker Charles 
Keating was asked by a congressional committee whether the $1.5 million 
he had spread among a few key elected officials could actually buy 
influence. “I certainly hope so,” he replied. The Supreme Court, in its 
recent Citizens United case, has enshrined the right of corporations to 
buy government, by removing limitations on campaign spending. The 
personal and the political are today in perfect alignment. Virtually all 
U.S. senators, and most of the representatives in the House, are members 
of the top 1 percent when they arrive, are kept in office by money from 
the top 1 percent, and know that if they serve the top 1 percent well 
they will be rewarded by the top 1 percent when they leave office.
 - JOSEPH E. STIGLITZ
an American economist and a professor at Columbia University. He is a 
recipient of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences (2001) and 
the John Bates Clark Medal (1979). He is also the former Senior Vice 
President and Chief Economist of the World Bank
<http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-20110
5>

So, now why don't you go out, and get outraged over something important?

-- 
Welcome to the New America.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>

On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:44:29 -0700, "China Blue [Tor], Meersburg"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <bc33185sbjbgb7b8mlntl3s4si973sp1as@4ax.com>,
> Steve <stevencanyon@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually it's a colossal failure of the Democrats social programs that
>> teaches lazy losers like Zepp that he has a right to be taken care of.
>
>African wild dogs are the most successful hunters because they provide 
>(effectively) pensions and disability pay to hunters that are crippled while 
>running down prey. The dogs charge recklessly through the undergrowth, sometimes 
>hurting themselves. Unlike other pack species, crippled adults are still fed and 
>guard pups. 

Hey, maybe they'll take you in and feed you too...

>By tolerating nonproductive members the pack is overall more 
>productive.

<LOL>  Really?  How so?

>A human example would be US bankruptcy law which allow a business to recklessly 
>pursue profits without risking jail if the business fails. Instead the rest of 
>society pays off the bad business debts.

You want a businessman to go to jail if his business fails?  Really?

Here are some quotes from "The Eleventh Hour" by John Tyndall

"For a short time, Britons from all regions of the country and its
Empire, and from every social background, came together in a single
cause, casting aside all previous political party and class divisions
and joined hands in a common comradeship of the trenches. 

 And for the first time in centuries politicians in this country put
aside party warfare and joined forces in working for a single goal. A
coalition government was formed in 1916 and proceeded to coordinate
the whole national life in one mighty endeavor. Laissez-faire
Economics were dropped as Britain found that these methods, practiced
so long in the years of peace had rendered her industry hopelessly
incapable of producing her needs of survival in this titanic conflict.
New industries, such as chemicals, machine tools and optics, had to be
built practically from scratch, while others, such as electricity,
aircraft and aero-engines, had to be greatly expanded, in order to
provide the sinews of war; and this was done mainly on the initiative
of the state. By the end of the war, tremendous strides had been made
in making good these previous shortcomings of industry. What the 
theoretical stimulus of the "free market" had failed to do for decades
beforehand was done in just three years of corporate effort, achieved
by firm national leadership directing economic resources, and by the
whole nation, and Empire, working as a team." 
"Could not the super-human efforts displayed on the battlefield in the
face of a dangerous adversity now be displayed again in the creation,
from out of the rubble of newly born nations?"

"Sir Oswald Mosley... had crossed to the Labour benches after
despairing of the Tories' ability or will to overcome the evils of
poverty and unemployment in post 1918 Britain...

In time, however, Mosley came to recognize that in the ranks of
Labour, however ideal the ends, there was a total incomprehension of,
combined an unwillingness to accept, the necessary means... he said:

"This nation has to be mobilized and rallied for a tremendous effort,
and who can do that except the government of the day?"

In the simplest terms, nationalism is no more than team spirit. Just
as the school, the firm the regiment and the rugby team need, each in
its own way to be infused with a pride of identity and a desire to
win, so must nations, if they are to be effective forces for the
furtherance of their own interests and for their survival in the
world, be galvanized by the same vital forces."




http://www.ihr.org/     http://www.natvan.com  

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com    

On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 18:41:22 -0700, "China Blue [Tor], Meersburg"
<chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <gfh318hpk0co2ebc15rtqaueipui8o0jva@4ax.com>,
> Steve <stevencanyon@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:44:29 -0700, "China Blue [Tor], Meersburg"
>> <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <bc33185sbjbgb7b8mlntl3s4si973sp1as@4ax.com>,
>> > Steve <stevencanyon@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Actually it's a colossal failure of the Democrats social programs that
>> >> teaches lazy losers like Zepp that he has a right to be taken care of.
>> >
>> >African wild dogs are the most successful hunters because they provide 
>> >(effectively) pensions and disability pay to hunters that are crippled while 
>> >running down prey. The dogs charge recklessly through the undergrowth, 
>> >sometimes 
>> >hurting themselves. Unlike other pack species, crippled adults are still fed 
>> >and 
>> >guard pups. 
>> 
>> Hey, maybe they'll take you in and feed you too...
>> 
>> >By tolerating nonproductive members the pack is overall more 
>> >productive.
>> 
>> <LOL>  Really?  How so?
>> 
>> >A human example would be US bankruptcy law which allow a business to 
>> >recklessly 
>> >pursue profits without risking jail if the business fails. Instead the rest 
>> >of 
>> >society pays off the bad business debts.
>> 
>> You want a businessman to go to jail if his business fails?  Really?
>
>I see you support communism when it's in your favour.

<LOL>  I see that you don't have a lick of common sense.

In article <bc33185sbjbgb7b8mlntl3s4si973sp1as@4ax.com>,
 Steve <stevencanyon@yahooooo.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
> >
> >> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
> >> U.S.
> >> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
> >> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
> >> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
> >> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
> >> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
> >> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
> >> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
> >> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
> >> 
> >Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just 
> >survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free market 
> >system?
> 
> Actually it's a colossal failure of the Democrats social programs that
> teaches lazy losers like Zepp that he has a right to be taken care of.

And a colossal success for Republican corporate welfare programs that 
protect fraudulent investment bankers, even if it does leave workers 
without jobs, homes, or a retirement income.

-- 
Welcome to the New America.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>

In article <cdmdnSIdu6RSG4zNnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Dänk 42Ø <dank@kgb.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000, 3082 Dead wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
> > 
> >> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
> >> U.S.
> >> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
> >> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
> >> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
> >> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
> >> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
> >> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
> >> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
> >> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
> >> 
> > Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
> > survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free market
> > system?
> 
> Idiot.  Just because the government offers free crack money and people 
> take them up on the offer does *NOT* means they *NEED* it.
> 
> In the old days, most Americans had pride and would rather starve before 
> going on the dole.  Today, the stigma of being on the dole has 
> evaporated, and so have the criteria to qualify.  Any fool who can remove 
> his buttocks from the couch long enough to shuffle down to the welfare 
> office now qualifies, and you use the fact that the standards have been 
> lowered as evidence that some sort of "crisis" exists.
> > 
> > Instead, being the fascist dirtbag you are, you just try to compare the
> > tens of millions of people you fucked over to animals.
> 
> No, it is *YOU* who compare people to animals.  Human beings have free 
> will and dignity, animals don't.  Under socialism, people are nothing 
> more than domesticated animals, to be fed, clothed and sheltered by Big 
> Shepherd.

At least the "Big Shepard" was only going to shear them. These bastards 
want to skin us.

Total retirement assets, Americans' second-largest household asset, 
dropped by 22 percent, from $10.3 trillion in 2006 to $8 trillion in 
mid-2008. During the same period, savings and investment assets (apart 
from retirement savings) lost $1.2 trillion and pension assets lost $1.3 
trillion. Taken together, these losses total $8.3 trillion.

The above doesn't include the $9.2 trillion in federal commitment to 
banks as of Oct, 2011.

<http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/elizabeth-warren-libor-fraud-expo
ses-a-rotten-financial-system/2012/07/19/gJQAvDnDwW_story.html>
Libor fraud exposes Wall Street's rotten core
On any given day, $800 trillion worth of credit-related transactions are 
linked to Libor rates.

And who can forget the bailout.
<http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=washingtonstory&sid=aGq2B3XeGKok>
U.S. Taxpayers Risk $9.7 Trillion on Bailout Programs
(Dubya already had driven the bail-out to over $7 trillion.)

A little seedier is HSBC's laundry operation.
In the New York Times business section, we read that the HSBC banking 
group is being fined up to $1bn, for not preventing money-laundering (a 
highly profitable activity not to prevent) between 2004 and 2010, a six 
years' long "oops".
<http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/14/global-financial-fra
ud-gatekeepers>

During the savings-and-loan scandal of the 1980s, a scandal whose 
dimensions, by today's standards, seem almost quaint, the banker Charles 
Keating was asked by a congressional committee whether the $1.5 million 
he had spread among a few key elected officials could actually buy 
influence. "I certainly hope so," he replied. The Supreme Court, in its 
recent Citizens United case, has enshrined the right of corporations to 
buy government, by removing limitations on campaign spending. The 
personal and the political are today in perfect alignment. Virtually all 
U.S. senators, and most of the representatives in the House, are members 
of the top 1 percent when they arrive, are kept in office by money from 
the top 1 percent, and know that if they serve the top 1 percent well 
they will be rewarded by the top 1 percent when they leave office.
 - JOSEPH E. STIGLITZ
an American economist and a professor at Columbia University. He is a 
recipient of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences (2001) and 
the John Bates Clark Medal (1979). He is also the former Senior Vice 
President and Chief Economist of the World Bank
<http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2011/05/top-one-percent-20110
5>

-- 
Welcome to the New America.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:55:52 -0700, Billy wrote:

> In article <bc33185sbjbgb7b8mlntl3s4si973sp1as@4ax.com>,
>  Steve <stevencanyon@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
>> >
>> >> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by
>> >> the U.S.
>> >> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>> >> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
>> >> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
>> >> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
>> >> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
>> >> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
>> >> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
>> >> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>> >> 
>> >Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
>> >survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free
>> >market system?
>> 
>> Actually it's a colossal failure of the Democrats social programs that
>> teaches lazy losers like Zepp that he has a right to be taken care of.
> 
> And a colossal success for Republican corporate welfare programs that
> protect fraudulent investment bankers, even if it does leave workers
> without jobs, homes, or a retirement income.

Steve is a pathetic parolee living in a single-wide on one of the 
shabbiest parts of Florida.  He likes to amuse himself by pretending to 
be a rich man and antagonizing everyone with a phony class warfare.  Back 
before we realized he had some pretty serious emotional issues, I often 
wondered if he was a left-wing provocateur. 

In article <juscpq$vgm$4@dont-email.me>, 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com> 
wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:50:47 -0500, Ken Marino wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:05:03 -0500, Dänk 42Ø wrote:
> > 
> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000, 3082 Dead wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
> >>>> U.S.
> >>>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
> >>>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
> >>>> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
> >>>> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
> >>>> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
> >>>> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
> >>>> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
> >>>> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
> >>>> 
> >>> Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
> >>> survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free
> >>> market system?
> >> 
> >> Idiot.  Just because the government offers free crack money and people
> >> take them up on the offer does *NOT* means they *NEED* it.
> >> 
> >> In the old days, most Americans had pride and would rather starve
> >> before going on the dole.  Today, the stigma of being on the dole has
> >> evaporated, and so have the criteria to qualify.  Any fool who can
> >> remove his buttocks from the couch long enough to shuffle down to the
> >> welfare office now qualifies, and you use the fact that the standards
> >> have been lowered as evidence that some sort of "crisis" exists.
> >>> 
> >>> Instead, being the fascist dirtbag you are, you just try to compare
> >>> the tens of millions of people you fucked over to animals.
> >> 
> >> No, it is *YOU* who compare people to animals.  Human beings have free
> >> will and dignity, animals don't.  Under socialism, people are nothing
> >> more than domesticated animals, to be fed, clothed and sheltered by Big
> >> Shepherd.
> > 
> > Couldn't have said it better
> 
> So where are the fucking jobs?
> 
> One of you toy fascists might want to answer that.

There aren't any, because there is no money to operate them. Banks don't 
give short term, or "bridging" loans, because they can make guaranteed 
money on government bonds. Banks also have fraud, and money laundering 
available as a means of revenu. Multinational corporations are sitting 
on mountains of money, and one can only speculate why they don't spend 
it. I, myself, lean to the conspiracy theory. And rich people (1%), keep 
their money out of the U.S., like Romney, so that they won't have to pay 
taxes for things like infrastructure.


<http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/14/global-financial-fra
ud-gatekeepers>
This global financial fraud and its gatekeepers

<http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-12/news/31146859_1_financial
-crisis-banks-lending-money>
Meanwhile, The Fed's Still Paying Banks Not To Lend...

<http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hoarding-hiring-corporations-stockpile-mo
untain-cash/story?id=10250559#.T_SjOHDcsnU>
Hoarding, Not Hiring – Corporations Stockpile Mountain of Cash

<http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-tax-havens-20120723,0,656
2876.story>
Rich hide up to $32 trillion in offshore tax havens, report contends

Another conclusion by the report is that “wealth doesn’t trickle down — 
it just floods offshore.”

“When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why 
the poor have no food, they call you a communist.”
-Archbishop Helder Camara

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>

-- 
Welcome to the New America.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>

In article <1m43189jr8d8oi89tqdc5pn6gjqn614r6c@4ax.com>,
 Steve <stevencanyon@yahooooo.com> wrote:

> 
> Leftists think freedom means living like a four year old child, with
> no responsibilities and having all your needs covered by your
> parents...

And your vision of the left is supported by what facts (not opinions) . 
. . . . . 


The Budget for All
 
Budget of the Congressional Progressive Caucus 
Fiscal Year 2013 

The Budget for All puts Americans back to work, charts a path to 
responsible deficit reduction, enhances our economic competitiveness, 
rebuilds the middle class and invests in our future. Our budget makes no 
cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security benefits, and asks those 
who have benefited most from our economy to pay a sensible share. 

Our Budget Puts Americans Back to Work 

Our budget attacks America�s persistently high unemployment levels with 
more than $2.9 trillion in additional job-creating investments. This 
plan utilizes every tool at the government�s disposal to get our economy 
moving again, including: 
Direct hire programs that create a School Improvement Corps, a Park 
Improvement Corps, and a Student Jobs Corps, among others. 
Targeted tax incentives that spur clean energy, manufacturing, and 
cutting-edge technological investments in the private sector. 
Widespread domestic investments including an infrastructure bank, a $556 
billion surface transportation bill, and approximately $2.1 trillion in 
widespread domestic investment. 

Our Budget Exhibits Fiscal Discipline 

The Budget for All achieves $6.8 trillion in deficit reduction, hits the 
same debt to GDP ratio as the Republican budget, and has lower deficits 
in the last five years, but does so in a responsible way that does not 
devastate what Americans want preserved. 

We achieve these notable benchmarks by focusing on the true drivers of 
our deficit � unsustainable tax policies, the wars overseas, and 
policies that helped cause the recent recession � rather than putting 
the middle class�s social safety net on the chopping block. 

Our Budget Creates a Fairer America 
Ends tax cuts for the top 2% of Americans on schedule at year�s end 
Extends tax relief for middle class households and the vast majority of
  Americans 
Creates new tax brackets for millionaires and billionaires 
Eliminates the tax code�s preferential treatment of capital gains and
  dividends 
Abolishes corporate welfare for oil, gas, and coal companies 
Eliminates loopholes that allow businesses to dodge their true tax
  liability 
Calls for the adoption of the �Buffett Rule� 
Creates a publicly funded federal election system that gets corporate
  money out of politics for good. 

Our Budget Brings Our Troops Home 
Responsibly and expeditiously ends our military presence in Iraq and
  Afghanistan, leaving America more secure at home and abroad 
Modernizes our military to address 21st century threats and stop
  contributing to our deficit problems 

Protects American Families 
Provides a Making Work Pay tax credit for families struggling with high
  gas and food cost 2013-2015 
Extends Earned Income Tax Credit, and the Child and Dependent Care
  Credit 
Invests in programs to stave off further foreclosures to keep families
  in their homes 
Invests in our children�s education by increasing Education, Training,
  and Social Services 


Wha'chew got?

-- 
Welcome to the New America.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:51:08 -0700, Billy wrote:

> In article <juscpq$vgm$4@dont-email.me>, 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:50:47 -0500, Ken Marino wrote:
>> 
>> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:05:03 -0500, Dänk 42Ø wrote:
>> > 
>> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000, 3082 Dead wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by
>> >>>> the U.S.
>> >>>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>> >>>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps
>> >>>> ever. They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican 
>> >>>> TV! Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the
>> >>>> U.S. Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed
>> >>>> the Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the
>> >>>> animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to 
>> >>>> take care of themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>> >>>> 
>> >>> Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
>> >>> survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free
>> >>> market system?
>> >> 
>> >> Idiot.  Just because the government offers free crack money and
>> >> people take them up on the offer does *NOT* means they *NEED* it.
>> >> 
>> >> In the old days, most Americans had pride and would rather starve
>> >> before going on the dole.  Today, the stigma of being on the dole
>> >> has evaporated, and so have the criteria to qualify.  Any fool who
>> >> can remove his buttocks from the couch long enough to shuffle down
>> >> to the welfare office now qualifies, and you use the fact that the
>> >> standards have been lowered as evidence that some sort of "crisis"
>> >> exists.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Instead, being the fascist dirtbag you are, you just try to compare
>> >>> the tens of millions of people you fucked over to animals.
>> >> 
>> >> No, it is *YOU* who compare people to animals.  Human beings have
>> >> free will and dignity, animals don't.  Under socialism, people are
>> >> nothing more than domesticated animals, to be fed, clothed and
>> >> sheltered by Big Shepherd.
>> > 
>> > Couldn't have said it better
>> 
>> So where are the fucking jobs?
>> 
>> One of you toy fascists might want to answer that.
> 
> There aren't any, because there is no money to operate them. Banks don't
> give short term, or "bridging" loans, because they can make guaranteed
> money on government bonds. 

Have you looked at the yield on government bonds lately?  It's 
effectively MINUS 0.6%.  

Banks also have fraud, and money laundering
> available as a means of revenu. Multinational corporations are sitting
> on mountains of money, and one can only speculate why they don't spend
> it. I, myself, lean to the conspiracy theory. And rich people (1%), keep
> their money out of the U.S., like Romney, so that they won't have to pay
> taxes for things like infrastructure.
> 
Time to end that before they end us.  The country can't survive having 
half the economy ripped off by a privileged 0.1%.
> 
> <http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/14/global-financial-
fra
> ud-gatekeepers>
> This global financial fraud and its gatekeepers
> 
> <http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-12/
news/31146859_1_financial
> -crisis-banks-lending-money>
> Meanwhile, The Fed's Still Paying Banks Not To Lend...
> 
> <http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hoarding-hiring-corporations-stockpile-
mo
> untain-cash/story?id=10250559#.T_SjOHDcsnU>
> Hoarding, Not Hiring – Corporations Stockpile Mountain of Cash
> 
> <http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-tax-
havens-20120723,0,656
> 2876.story>
> Rich hide up to $32 trillion in offshore tax havens, report contends
> 
> Another conclusion by the report is that “wealth doesn’t trickle down —
> it just floods offshore.”
> 
> “When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why
> the poor have no food, they call you a communist.”
> -Archbishop Helder Camara
> 
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:04:31 -0700, Billy <wildbilly@withoutta.net>
wrote:

>In article <1m43189jr8d8oi89tqdc5pn6gjqn614r6c@4ax.com>,
> Steve <stevencanyon@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
>> 
>> Leftists think freedom means living like a four year old child, with
>> no responsibilities and having all your needs covered by your
>> parents...
>
>And your vision of the left is supported by what facts (not opinions) . 

Well look at Porky Jamieson who, daily, can be expected to lament the
simple fact that corporations are not looking after his interests.
Only lowlife leftist would even want them to do that.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:32:36 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:55:52 -0700, Billy wrote:
>
>> In article <bc33185sbjbgb7b8mlntl3s4si973sp1as@4ax.com>,
>>  Steve <stevencanyon@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by
>>> >> the U.S.
>>> >> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>>> >> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
>>> >> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
>>> >> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
>>> >> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
>>> >> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
>>> >> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
>>> >> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>>> >> 
>>> >Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
>>> >survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free
>>> >market system?
>>> 
>>> Actually it's a colossal failure of the Democrats social programs that
>>> teaches lazy losers like Zepp that he has a right to be taken care of.
>> 
>> And a colossal success for Republican corporate welfare programs that
>> protect fraudulent investment bankers, even if it does leave workers
>> without jobs, homes, or a retirement income.
>
>Steve is a pathetic parolee living in a single-wide on one of the 
>shabbiest parts of Florida. 

<LOL>  Porky Jamieson likes to pretend that he knows who and where I
am.  He doesn't...   but he hates me because, years ago, it was I that
first brought forth proof that he was not even an US citizen...  and
more recently, I exposed his many lies when he pretended to still have
a wife..  See below
 

That's from David (Zepp) Jamieson who apparently refused to
allow the woman he claims to still be married to use of his
Internet account, and then when she got fined for broken tail
lights and failure to licence the family pets, he refused to
help her pay the fines and then after a decade, she was forced
to do community service.

The truth may be that Zepp has been lying about still being
married to her and instead, she left him for reasons Zepp doesn't
want to admit.

What's porky hiding here? 

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:55:52 -0700, Billy <wildbilly@withoutta.net>
wrote:

>In article <bc33185sbjbgb7b8mlntl3s4si973sp1as@4ax.com>,
> Steve <stevencanyon@yahooooo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
>> >
>> >> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
>> >> U.S.
>> >> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>> >> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
>> >> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
>> >> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
>> >> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
>> >> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
>> >> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
>> >> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>> >> 
>> >Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just 
>> >survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free market 
>> >system?
>> 
>> Actually it's a colossal failure of the Democrats social programs that
>> teaches lazy losers like Zepp that he has a right to be taken care of.
>
>And a colossal success for Republican corporate welfare programs that 
>protect fraudulent investment bankers, even if it does leave workers 
>without jobs, homes, or a retirement income.

I'm sorry that you lost your job.  I really am...  I'm saddened by the
fact that so many Americans thought they could continue to get by on
poor, uncompetitive, and dispensable skills.

On 7/27/2012 5:08 PM, Steve wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:32:36 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead<dead@gone.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:55:52 -0700, Billy wrote:
>>
>>> In article<bc33185sbjbgb7b8mlntl3s4si973sp1as@4ax.com>,
>>>   Steve<stevencanyon@yahooooo.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead<dead@gone.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by
>>>>>> the U.S.
>>>>>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>>>>>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
>>>>>> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
>>>>>> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
>>>>>> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
>>>>>> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
>>>>>> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
>>>>>> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
>>>>> survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free
>>>>> market system?
>>>>
>>>> Actually it's a colossal failure of the Democrats social programs that
>>>> teaches lazy losers like Zepp that he has a right to be taken care of.
>>>
>>> And a colossal success for Republican corporate welfare programs that
>>> protect fraudulent investment bankers, even if it does leave workers
>>> without jobs, homes, or a retirement income.
>>
>> Steve is a pathetic parolee living in a single-wide on one of the
>> shabbiest parts of Florida.
>
> <LOL>   Porky Jamieson likes to pretend that he knows who and where I
> am.  He doesn't...   but he hates me because, years ago, it was I that
> first brought forth proof that he was not even an US citizen...  and
> more recently, I exposed his many lies when he pretended to still have
> a wife..  See below
>
>
> That's from David (Zepp) Jamieson who apparently refused to
> allow the woman he claims to still be married to use of his
> Internet account, and then when she got fined for broken tail
> lights and failure to licence the family pets, he refused to
> help her pay the fines and then after a decade, she was forced
> to do community service.
>
> The truth may be that Zepp has been lying about still being
> married to her and instead, she left him for reasons Zepp doesn't
> want to admit.
>
> What's porky hiding here?

Well apparently quite a bit, since you asked...

Is he also a druggie?

And what does he do for a living, or can Canucks get US food stamps legally?

I think we all could stand to lern a bit more about this sad troll's 
bona fides.

On 7/27/2012 5:08 PM, Steve wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:55:52 -0700, Billy<wildbilly@withoutta.net>
> wrote:
>
>> In article<bc33185sbjbgb7b8mlntl3s4si973sp1as@4ax.com>,
>> Steve<stevencanyon@yahooooo.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead<dead@gone.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
>>>>> U.S.
>>>>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>>>>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
>>>>> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
>>>>> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
>>>>> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
>>>>> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
>>>>> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
>>>>> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>>>>>
>>>> Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
>>>> survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free market
>>>> system?
>>>
>>> Actually it's a colossal failure of the Democrats social programs that
>>> teaches lazy losers like Zepp that he has a right to be taken care of.
>>
>> And a colossal success for Republican corporate welfare programs that
>> protect fraudulent investment bankers, even if it does leave workers
>> without jobs, homes, or a retirement income.
>
> I'm sorry that you lost your job.  I really am...  I'm saddened by the
> fact that so many Americans thought they could continue to get by on
> poor, uncompetitive, and dispensable skills.


I'm sorry to inform you that he is not an American.

He's an Australian imposter.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:26:01 -0600, propinquity wrote:

> On 7/27/2012 5:08 PM, Steve wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:32:36 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead<dead@gone.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:55:52 -0700, Billy wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article<bc33185sbjbgb7b8mlntl3s4si973sp1as@4ax.com>,
>>>>   Steve<stevencanyon@yahooooo.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead<dead@gone.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by
>>>>>>> the U.S.
>>>>>>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>>>>>>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps
>>>>>>> ever.
>>>>>>> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
>>>>>>> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
>>>>>>> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
>>>>>>> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the
>>>>>>> animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to 
>>>>>>> take care of themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
>>>>>> survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free
>>>>>> market system?
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually it's a colossal failure of the Democrats social programs
>>>>> that teaches lazy losers like Zepp that he has a right to be taken
>>>>> care of.
>>>>
>>>> And a colossal success for Republican corporate welfare programs that
>>>> protect fraudulent investment bankers, even if it does leave workers
>>>> without jobs, homes, or a retirement income.
>>>
>>> Steve is a pathetic parolee living in a single-wide on one of the
>>> shabbiest parts of Florida.
>>
>> <LOL>   Porky Jamieson likes to pretend that he knows who and where I
>> am.  He doesn't...   but he hates me because, years ago, it was I that
>> first brought forth proof that he was not even an US citizen...  and
>> more recently, I exposed his many lies when he pretended to still have
>> a wife..  See below
>>
>>
>> That's from David (Zepp) Jamieson who apparently refused to allow the
>> woman he claims to still be married to use of his Internet account, and
>> then when she got fined for broken tail lights and failure to licence
>> the family pets, he refused to help her pay the fines and then after a
>> decade, she was forced to do community service.
>>
>> The truth may be that Zepp has been lying about still being married to
>> her and instead, she left him for reasons Zepp doesn't want to admit.
>>
>> What's porky hiding here?
> 
> Well apparently quite a bit, since you asked...
> 
> Is he also a druggie?
> 
> And what does he do for a living, or can Canucks get US food stamps
> legally?
> 
> I think we all could stand to lern a bit more about this sad troll's
> bona fides.

Strutting your utter ineptness and incompetence, boys?

Well, it's obviously you are mentally incapable of discussing current 
affairs.

Just think: some day people will read your crap and wonder if that's why 
America fell.

In article <juun7c$vg$11@dont-email.me>, 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com> 
wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 10:51:08 -0700, Billy wrote:
> 
> > In article <juscpq$vgm$4@dont-email.me>, 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:50:47 -0500, Ken Marino wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 13:05:03 -0500, Dänk 42Ø wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000, 3082 Dead wrote:
> >> >> 
> >> >>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
> >> >>> 
> >> >>>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by
> >> >>>> the U.S.
> >> >>>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
> >> >>>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps
> >> >>>> ever. They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican 
> >> >>>> TV! Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the
> >> >>>> U.S. Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed
> >> >>>> the Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the
> >> >>>> animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to 
> >> >>>> take care of themselves. This ends today's lesson.
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>> Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
> >> >>> survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free
> >> >>> market system?
> >> >> 
> >> >> Idiot.  Just because the government offers free crack money and
> >> >> people take them up on the offer does *NOT* means they *NEED* it.
> >> >> 
> >> >> In the old days, most Americans had pride and would rather starve
> >> >> before going on the dole.  Today, the stigma of being on the dole
> >> >> has evaporated, and so have the criteria to qualify.  Any fool who
> >> >> can remove his buttocks from the couch long enough to shuffle down
> >> >> to the welfare office now qualifies, and you use the fact that the
> >> >> standards have been lowered as evidence that some sort of "crisis"
> >> >> exists.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> Instead, being the fascist dirtbag you are, you just try to compare
> >> >>> the tens of millions of people you fucked over to animals.
> >> >> 
> >> >> No, it is *YOU* who compare people to animals.  Human beings have
> >> >> free will and dignity, animals don't.  Under socialism, people are
> >> >> nothing more than domesticated animals, to be fed, clothed and
> >> >> sheltered by Big Shepherd.
> >> > 
> >> > Couldn't have said it better
> >> 
> >> So where are the fucking jobs?
> >> 
> >> One of you toy fascists might want to answer that.
> > 
> > There aren't any, because there is no money to operate them. Banks don't
> > give short term, or "bridging" loans, because they can make guaranteed
> > money on government bonds. 
> 
> Have you looked at the yield on government bonds lately?  It's 
> effectively MINUS 0.6%.  

Interest rates on Treasury bonds are near their lowest in decades, 
meaning banks aren't getting a ton of return on their investment in 
government-related debt -- the benchmark 10-year Treasury note yielded 
2.03 percent Monday afternoon (03/12/20). But banks are also getting 
essentially zero-percent overnight loans from the Federal Reserve, so 
any interest above that is mostly profit.
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/12/banks-sit-on-cash-instead-of-le
nding_n_1339821.html>
> 
> Banks also have fraud, and money laundering
> > available as a means of revenu. Multinational corporations are sitting
> > on mountains of money, and one can only speculate why they don't spend
> > it. I, myself, lean to the conspiracy theory. And rich people (1%), keep
> > their money out of the U.S., like Romney, so that they won't have to pay
> > taxes for things like infrastructure.
> > 
> Time to end that before they end us.  The country can't survive having 
> half the economy ripped off by a privileged 0.1%.
> > 
> > <http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/14/global-financial-
> fra
> > ud-gatekeepers>
> > This global financial fraud and its gatekeepers
> > 
> > <http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-12/
> news/31146859_1_financial
> > -crisis-banks-lending-money>
> > Meanwhile, The Fed's Still Paying Banks Not To Lend...
> > 
> > <http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hoarding-hiring-corporations-stockpile-
> mo
> > untain-cash/story?id=10250559#.T_SjOHDcsnU>
> > Hoarding, Not Hiring – Corporations Stockpile Mountain of Cash
> > 
> > <http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-tax-
> havens-20120723,0,656
> > 2876.story>
> > Rich hide up to $32 trillion in offshore tax havens, report contends
> > 
> > Another conclusion by the report is that “wealth doesn’t trickle down —
> > it just floods offshore.”
> > 
> > “When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why
> > the poor have no food, they call you a communist.”
> > -Archbishop Helder Camara
> > 
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>

-- 
Welcome to the New America.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>

In article <rk7618hsldid0mk8ieblne6okt7q42fau8@4ax.com>,
 Steve <stevencanyon@yahooooo.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:55:52 -0700, Billy <wildbilly@withoutta.net>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <bc33185sbjbgb7b8mlntl3s4si973sp1as@4ax.com>,
> > Steve <stevencanyon@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by the
> >> >> U.S.
> >> >> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
> >> >> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.
> >> >> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
> >> >> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
> >> >> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
> >> >> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the animals
> >> >> will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to  take care of
> >> >> themselves. This ends today's lesson.
> >> >> 
> >> >Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just 
> >> >survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free market 
> >> >system?
> >> 
> >> Actually it's a colossal failure of the Democrats social programs that
> >> teaches lazy losers like Zepp that he has a right to be taken care of.
> >
> >And a colossal success for Republican corporate welfare programs that 
> >protect fraudulent investment bankers, even if it does leave workers 
> >without jobs, homes, or a retirement income.
> 
> I'm sorry that you lost your job.  I really am...  I'm saddened by the
> fact that so many Americans thought they could continue to get by on
> poor, uncompetitive, and dispensable skills.
Much like your writing.

And the government's job is to establish Justice, insure domestic 
Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general 
Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our 
Posterity. That to secure these rights, Governments are 
instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the 
governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of 
these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and 
to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles 
and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most 
likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." So it says, right here in 
the rule book.

I'd say those boys have been lying down on the job for at least 32 years.

Americans generally agree that lobbyists, major corporations, and banks 
have too much power, potentially making them vulnerable to calls for 
greater regulation.
<http://www.gallup.com/poll/147026/Americans-Decry-Power-Lobbyists-Corpor
ations-Banks-Feds.aspx>

-- 
Welcome to the New America.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA736oK9FPg>
or
E Pluribus Unum
Green Party Nominee Jill Stein & Running Mate, Cheri Honkala
<http://www.democracynow.org/2012/7/13/green_party_nominee_jill_stein_running>

On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 03:37:37 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead <dead@gone.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 21:26:01 -0600, propinquity wrote:
>
>> On 7/27/2012 5:08 PM, Steve wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:32:36 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead<dead@gone.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:55:52 -0700, Billy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article<bc33185sbjbgb7b8mlntl3s4si973sp1as@4ax.com>,
>>>>>   Steve<stevencanyon@yahooooo.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 17:25:40 +0000 (UTC), 3082 Dead<dead@gone.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:08:16 -0500, Libertarian Lilly wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A lesson in  irony: The U.S. Food Stamp Program, administered  by
>>>>>>>> the U.S.
>>>>>>>> Department of Agriculture, is actually proud of the fact it is
>>>>>>>> distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps
>>>>>>>> ever.
>>>>>>>> They even  advertise how to access the program on Mexican  TV!
>>>>>>>> Meanwhile,  the National Park Service, administered by the U.S.
>>>>>>>> Department of the Interior,  asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the
>>>>>>>> Animals." Their stated reason for the policy  is because the
>>>>>>>> animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to 
>>>>>>>> take care of themselves. This ends today's lesson.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gee, a record number of people who need public aid in order to just
>>>>>>> survive, and you DON'T see this as a colossal failure of the free
>>>>>>> market system?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually it's a colossal failure of the Democrats social programs
>>>>>> that teaches lazy losers like Zepp that he has a right to be taken
>>>>>> care of.
>>>>>
>>>>> And a colossal success for Republican corporate welfare programs that
>>>>> protect fraudulent investment bankers, even if it does leave workers
>>>>> without jobs, homes, or a retirement income.
>>>>
>>>> Steve is a pathetic parolee living in a single-wide on one of the
>>>> shabbiest parts of Florida.
>>>
>>> <LOL>   Porky Jamieson likes to pretend that he knows who and where I
>>> am.  He doesn't...   but he hates me because, years ago, it was I that
>>> first brought forth proof that he was not even an US citizen...  and
>>> more recently, I exposed his many lies when he pretended to still have
>>> a wife..  See below
>>>
>>>
>>> That's from David (Zepp) Jamieson who apparently refused to allow the
>>> woman he claims to still be married to use of his Internet account, and
>>> then when she got fined for broken tail lights and failure to licence
>>> the family pets, he refused to help her pay the fines and then after a
>>> decade, she was forced to do community service.
>>>
>>> The truth may be that Zepp has been lying about still being married to
>>> her and instead, she left him for reasons Zepp doesn't want to admit.
>>>
>>> What's porky hiding here?
>> 
>> Well apparently quite a bit, since you asked...
>> 
>> Is he also a druggie?
>> 
>> And what does he do for a living, or can Canucks get US food stamps
>> legally?
>> 
>> I think we all could stand to lern a bit more about this sad troll's
>> bona fides.
>
>Strutting your utter ineptness and incompetence, boys?

Apparently, nobody told Jamieson that fat man are supposed to be
jolly.

>Well, it's obviously you are mentally incapable of discussing current 
>affairs.

Porky gets upset when people refuse to "discuss" his propaganda.  

>Just think: some day people will read your crap and wonder if that's why 
>America fell.

Need I say it?  Irony anyone?