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MWRon <mwron@metrowerks.com> wrote:

> Announcing an Advanced Sale of CodeWarrior for Mac OS version 7

I bought CW 5.1 Pro Mac+Win around a year ago.

Can I update to a CD 7 Pro Mac+Win?

Mfg
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In article <mwron-6D6A9D.21522708082001@enews.newsguy.com>,
 MWRon <mwron@metrowerks.com> wrote:

> Some of the new and improved features include:
> 
>   New Carbonized IDE v4.2.5
>   Develop on Mac OS 8.6, 9.x and Mac OS X
>   Supports Mac OS X run-time environments: Carbon, Classic, & Java
>   Build Native Mac OS X applications
>   Native Debugging on Mac OS X
>   Mach-O Project Converter, converts your old projects to Mach-O
>   PowerPC PEF compiler and linker
>   PowerPC Mach-O compiler and linker
>   Mac OS X hosted command line compilers
>   Command line MPW Compilers
>   Target Windows operating system through Cross Platform Utility
>   PowerPlant, object-oriented C++ framework
>   Java Rapid Application Development (RAD) Tools
>   Java JDK 1.3 Support on Mac OS X
>   Build both Java  and Java2
>   Altivec Instruction -Set support for G4 processor
>   Carbonized Visual Source Safe Plugin
>   Version Control Support (No CVS Support)
>   Improved ANSI/ISO C++ Standard Conformance
>   ANSI C Library Compliance
>   Sample Projects
>   FREE On-Line Programming Courses at CodeWarriorU.com


Will it support using makefiles?

TIA,

Ken Prager

In article <prager-50B6BD.04474409082001@bos-proxy.ext.ray.com>,
 Ken Prager <prager@ieee.org> wrote:

> MWRon <mwron@metrowerks.com> wrote:
>
>> Some of the new and improved features include:
 
>>   Mac OS X hosted command line compilers

>
>Will it support using makefiles?

That is what the command line compilers are for.

Ron

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In article <1exvjaz.go493ql5mzclN%reply@christians-software.de>,
 reply@christians-software.de (Christian Schmitz) wrote:

>I bought CW 5.1 Pro Mac+Win around a year ago.
>
>Can I update to a CD 7 Pro Mac+Win?

You can update but you'll have to buy a full release not a renewal.  
Renewals are only for the prior versions now.   Sorry,  but we sent out 
lots of fliers informing older owners about this change in policy last 
year.

Ron

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In article <mwron-83C81D.10591809082001@enews.newsguy.com>,
 MWRon <mwron@metrowerks.com> wrote:

> In article <prager-50B6BD.04474409082001@bos-proxy.ext.ray.com>,
>  Ken Prager <prager@ieee.org> wrote:
> 
> > MWRon <mwron@metrowerks.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Some of the new and improved features include:
>  
> >>   Mac OS X hosted command line compilers
> 
> >
> >Will it support using makefiles?
> 
> That is what the command line compilers are for.
> 
> Ron

OK, Thanks.  I wasn't sure what was meant by "command line compilers."  

This is huge.  Now my *nix code can be ported to MW painlessly!  :-)

Ken

MWRon wrote:
> 
> Announcing an Advanced Sale of CodeWarrior for Mac OS version 7
> 
> With CodeWarrior for Mac OS version 7 you can BUILD A SINGLE APPLICATION
> that runs native on both OS X and Classic Mac OS 8.6 or newer systems.

Is this a fancy way of saying you can build a Carbon application, or am
I missing something here?

Cheers,
Eric

In article <3B73252E.A4D955E1@eagrant.com>,
 Eric Grant <eric@eagrant.com> wrote:

>Is this a fancy way of saying you can build a Carbon application, or am
>I missing something here?

Given the number of times I've had to explain that Carbon is an API, not 
a runtime, and no, writing a Carbon application on 9 does not mean is 
runs on X, I can't blame them for not using the word Carbon.

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meeroh wrote:
> 
> In article <3B73252E.A4D955E1@eagrant.com>,
>  Eric Grant <eric@eagrant.com> wrote:
> 
> >Is this a fancy way of saying you can build a Carbon application, or am
> >I missing something here?
> 
> Given the number of times I've had to explain that Carbon is an API, not
> a runtime, and no, writing a Carbon application on 9 does not mean is
> runs on X, I can't blame them for not using the word Carbon.

OK, let's be more precise:  Is this a fancy way of saying that you can
build a CFM-based application that links with CarbonLib and potentially
runs on OS versions 8.6 and up, or am I missing something here?

I don't blame them for not using the word "Carbon."  I blame them for
implying that this is a *new* feature of version 7.  Haven't I been
building these "single applications" with CW 5?  Doesn't Apple
distribute CarbonLib-based sample apps as CW 4 projects?

Cheers,
Eric

In article <3B73686D.BC916961@eagrant.com>,
 Eric Grant <eric@eagrant.com> wrote:

>I don't blame them for not using the word "Carbon."  I blame them for
>implying that this is a *new* feature of version 7.  Haven't I been
>building these "single applications" with CW 5?  Doesn't Apple
>distribute CarbonLib-based sample apps as CW 4 projects?

Getting anything before CW6 to build a Carbon app requires upgrading 
Universal Headers (pain in the ass) and then you still have to deal with 
non-Carbonized MSL (pain in the ass). CWP 6 is the first that can 
reasonably build a Carbonized app. So while I agree with the statement 
that CWP8 is not the first, saying that CWP4 can do it is really 
stretching the definition of "can"...

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In article <macdev-196EF3.02531010082001@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>, 
meeroh <macdev@meeroh.org> wrote:
> So while I agree with the statement 
> that CWP8 is not the first, saying that CWP4 can do it is really 
> stretching the definition of "can"...
> 
> meeroh

CWP8? Do you know aomething we don't <g>.
definition of "can" ... it depends on what the meaning of "can" is.. 
<;-}).

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In article <macdev-196EF3.02531010082001@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
 meeroh <macdev@meeroh.org> wrote:

> Getting anything before CW6 to build a Carbon app requires upgrading 
> Universal Headers (pain in the ass) and then you still have to deal with 
> non-Carbonized MSL (pain in the ass).

FWIW, having shipped a large commercial Carbon application built with 
pre CW6, I'd have to say neither of those were a big deal.  

Taking new Universal Interfaces should be a simple matter of keeping 
them outside of the CodeWarrior tree, and adjusting the access paths 
appropriately.

-- 
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In article <3B73252E.A4D955E1@eagrant.com>,
 Eric Grant <eric@eagrant.com> wrote:

>> With CodeWarrior for Mac OS version 7 you can BUILD A SINGLE APPLICATION
>> that runs native on both OS X and Classic Mac OS 8.6 or newer systems.
>
>Is this a fancy way of saying you can build a Carbon application, or am
>I missing something here?

A major reason for using CodeWarrior is that you can write one 
Application and this application will run natively on OS X, as well as 
8.6 and 9.x .    Yes this uses the Carbon API but for a business that is 
not as important as having a product that runs native on both Operating 
Systems.

We've did the marketing and customer surveys and such and there is a lot 
of interest in Mach-O  but what businesses and customers want now is 
something that runs native seamlessly to the user of that software.

While you can do Carbon with CodeWarrior 6,  The changes in OS X made 
CodeWarrior 6 hard to use on OS X.  CW 7 runs very nicely on OS X as 
well as on 8.6 and 9.x

Ron

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In article <HeSc7.33859$bm5.13110670@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>,
 Jim Correia <correia@barebones.com> wrote:

>In article <macdev-196EF3.02531010082001@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
> meeroh <macdev@meeroh.org> wrote:
>
>> Getting anything before CW6 to build a Carbon app requires upgrading 
>> Universal Headers (pain in the ass) and then you still have to deal with 
>> non-Carbonized MSL (pain in the ass).
>
>FWIW, having shipped a large commercial Carbon application built with 
>pre CW6, I'd have to say neither of those were a big deal.  

Not for you or me, but that's hardly what majority of CW users should 
have to deal with.

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> CW Mac OS Renewal* before September 10th $249
> CW Mac OS before September 10th $499

> CW Mac/Win Renewal* before September 10th $349
> CW Mac/Win before September 10th $699
> *renewals for CodeWarrior 6 owners only

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the first non-beta version of
CodeWarrior 6 released at WWDC in May of this year? And now less than
4 months after its release, we have to pay another $250/350 to upgrade
to v7? Am I the only one who thinks this is a little strange? I could
understand charging for the upgrade if we had a working product for a
full year, but in many ways, even the official release of v6 seems
like a beta. In fact we've had to move to 7EA just to debug under OS X
(as most of you know, debugging under OS X with v6 is an exercise in
frustration).

I'm not complaining about the problems with CodeWarrior -- I
understand it must have been a difficult task getting it to work at
all under OS X. And I'm willing to work around the difficulties in
order to do development under OS X. But as a regular customer of
Metrowerks since the bronze/gold days, I personally think that
charging a $250/350 upgrade to CodeWarrior 6 owners seems a bit
excessive. Anyway, that's one man's opinion...

In article <8291315.0108100924.43ca6140@posting.google.com>,
 crustyrob@mac.com (Robert McCullough) wrote:

>Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the first non-beta version of
>CodeWarrior 6 released at WWDC in May of this year?

No,  CodeWarrior 6 was released in June of 2000  although a pre-release 
version of it was available of at WWDC in 2000.

Because there had been 2 major renovations of OS X since CodeWarrior 6 
was released we had a Early Access release of CodeWarrior 7 which worked 
on OS X and made this available.  

> And now less than
>4 months after its release, we have to pay another $250/350 to upgrade
>to v7? Am I the only one who thinks this is a little strange? I could
>understand charging for the upgrade if we had a working product for a
>full year, but in many ways, even the official release of v6 seems
>like a beta. In fact we've had to move to 7EA just to debug under OS X
>(as most of you know, debugging under OS X with v6 is an exercise in
>frustration).

CodeWarrior 6 targeted Carbon development, and allowed people to build 
code for OS X relatively easily.   CodeWarrior 6 was developed on the 
Developers Preview release of OS X.  after CodeWarrior 6 was released 
Apple released a public release and then a final release and now 4 
smaller updates to the final release.    Each and everyone of these 
Major updates had a significant impact on CodeWarrior.   

CodeWarrior 6 has always done exactly what it was advertised to do.   
That is allow you to easily port applications to OS X using the Carbon 
API.    It did this extremely well and with very little bug reports when 
ran on OS 8.6 and  9.x     

CodeWarrior 7 is much more mature it will run on OS X and allow you to 
develop on OS X.  It is still not perfect on OS X there are Mach-O tools 
that need to be fixed.  There is a problem with long file names that was 
not anticipated as well as the i/o kit  But still this is a major 
enahncement to CodeWarrior and is not a bug fix or just a simple upgrade 
to CodeWarrior 6.   

>I'm not complaining about the problems with CodeWarrior -- I
>understand it must have been a difficult task getting it to work at
>all under OS X. And I'm willing to work around the difficulties in
>order to do development under OS X. But as a regular customer of
>Metrowerks since the bronze/gold days, I personally think that
>charging a $250/350 upgrade to CodeWarrior 6 owners seems a bit
>excessive. Anyway, that's one man's opinion...

I respect this and when I first saw the price increase I too was 
shocked.  But once I thought about it, the work that has went into this 
and all the added advantages I settled back and understood.   I hope you 
see this too and the distinction between developing for OS X and 
developing on OS X.

Ron

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In article <mwron-6D6A9D.21522708082001@enews.newsguy.com>,
 MWRon <mwron@metrowerks.com> wrote:

> CW Mac OS Renewal* before September 10th $249
> CW Mac OS before September 10th $499
> 
> CW Mac/Win Renewal* before September 10th $349
> CW Mac/Win before September 10th $699
> *renewals for CodeWarrior 6 owners only

I see there is a Mac/Win combo renewal.  Has Metrowerks gone back 
to bundling them together?  I don't remember this as an option 
for CW6.  I have CW6 for Mac and CW6 for Win.  Can I buy the 
combo upgrade?  I tried to call in an order today but I was on 
hold forever.

George

In article <mwron-83C81D.10591809082001@enews.newsguy.com>,
 MWRon <mwron@metrowerks.com> wrote:

> In article <prager-50B6BD.04474409082001@bos-proxy.ext.ray.com>,
>  Ken Prager <prager@ieee.org> wrote:
> 
> > MWRon <mwron@metrowerks.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Some of the new and improved features include:
>  
> >>   Mac OS X hosted command line compilers
> 
> >
> >Will it support using makefiles?
> 
> That is what the command line compilers are for.
> 
> Ron

Nice!

In article <warnergt-EBFCE9.02553411082001@news5.ptd.net>,
 George Warner <warnergt@ptd.net> wrote:

>I see there is a Mac/Win combo renewal.  Has Metrowerks gone back 
>to bundling them together?

We offered the bundle the day we split them into two products.

>  I don't remember this as an option 
>for CW6.  I have CW6 for Mac and CW6 for Win.  Can I buy the 
>combo upgrade?  I tried to call in an order today but I was on 
>hold forever.

If they don't let you do it,  have them contact me.    

Ron

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In article <mwron-D43306.20084911082001@enews.newsguy.com>,
 MWRon <mwron@metrowerks.com> wrote:

> In article <warnergt-EBFCE9.02553411082001@news5.ptd.net>,
>  George Warner wrote:
> 
> >  I have CW6 for Mac and CW6 for Win.  Can I buy the 
> >combo upgrade?  I tried to call in an order today but I was on 
> >hold forever.
> 
> If they don't let you do it,  have them contact me.    
> 
> Ron

I have it ordered now.  Thanks.

MWRon <mwron@metrowerks.com> wrote in message news:<mwron-6D6A9D.21522708082001@enews.newsguy.com>...
> Announcing an Advanced Sale of CodeWarrior for Mac OS version 7
>
>  <snip>
> 
> Some of the new and improved features include:
>
>  <snip>
> 
>   Improved ANSI/ISO C++ Standard Conformance
>   ANSI C Library Compliance
>

Will CW7 support the ISO C99 standard?

> Will CW7 support the ISO C99 standard?

The CodeWarrior compilers already support a lot of C99 -- just do add
"#pragma c9x on" to your code.  The areas that are not supported are
some of the more difficult ones to implement: variable length arrays,
named array and structure initialization, and complex numbers as a core
language element.

I don't think the pref panels for CW 7 explicltly include a "C99"
switch -- its still pragma only.

In article <9f6dd359.0108170609.2dfcef70@posting.google.com>,
 wmccurdy@rational.com (Bill) wrote:

>Will CW7 support the ISO C99 standard?

We are stating 98% compliance  (but that is compliance for the full 
standard not just the C99 extensions.

I have a little chart of what we do and do not support if you are 
interested.

The library is pretty much C99 compliant it is only some compiler issues 
that aren't.

Some things we have no plans on supporting at this time such as variable 
arrays and complex types as they are already supported in C++.

Ron

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Probably a stupid question, but here goes:

I upgraded to CW Pro 6 last year; Do I get a free version upgrade to
CWPro7?  I know the two-free-updates program is no more, but I hazily
(and probably incorrectly) remember that it had gone to
one-free-update instead.

Thanks,
Tom C.

P.S. (Oh yeah, I'm disappointed to see that MFC support is still stuck
at 4.2.)

MWRon <mwron@metrowerks.com> wrote in message news:<mwron-6D6A9D.21522708082001@enews.newsguy.com>...
> Announcing an Advanced Sale of CodeWarrior for Mac OS version 7
[snip]

In article <663711ac.0108171309.58cd7126@posting.google.com>,
 cleavet@my-Deja.com (TC) wrote:

>I upgraded to CW Pro 6 last year; Do I get a free version upgrade to
>CWPro7?  I know the two-free-updates program is no more, but I hazily
>(and probably incorrectly) remember that it had gone to
>one-free-update instead.

We dropped the two bonus updates with Pro in 97  and we dropped the one 
bonus update with CodeWarrior 4 in 99.

You are eligible for a renewal price which owners of versions prior to 
CW 6 do not get anymore.

>
>P.S. (Oh yeah, I'm disappointed to see that MFC support is still stuck
>at 4.2.)

Me too,  but there are reasons for this being so.

Ron

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MWRon <mwron@metrowerks.com> wrote in message news:<mwron-FE6539.21210317082001@enews.newsguy.com>...
> 
> We dropped the two bonus updates with Pro in 97  and we dropped the one 
> bonus update with CodeWarrior 4 in 99.
> 
> You are eligible for a renewal price which owners of versions prior to 
> CW 6 do not get anymore.

Ok, thanks for the response.  Given how little I've used CW this past
year I'm leaning against renewing.  If I skip two more editions and
then pay full price I'm not that far behind, really (I bought both Mac
& Win32 editions).  This isn't a flame at Metrowerks, just letting you
know how I'm making my choices.

> >P.S. (Oh yeah, I'm disappointed to see that MFC support is still stuck
> >at 4.2.)
> 
> Me too,  but there are reasons for this being so.

Undoubtedly.  I hope that MW can update to the newest version of MFC
in a future update.

Thanks again,
Tom C.

In article <663711ac.0108180640.68c0fe2b@posting.google.com>,
 cleavet@my-Deja.com (TC) wrote:

>Ok, thanks for the response.  Given how little I've used CW this past
>year I'm leaning against renewing.  If I skip two more editions and
>then pay full price I'm not that far behind, really (I bought both Mac
>& Win32 editions).  This isn't a flame at Metrowerks, just letting you
>know how I'm making my choices.

I understand and I am going to copy your message and send it to 
management.

Ron

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>CW Mac OS Renewal* before September 10th $249
>CW Mac OS before September 10th $499

>CW Mac/Win Renewal* before September 10th $349
>CW Mac/Win before September 10th $699

Seems kind of expensive to me.  Just a guess, but Motorola bean counters couldn't have had anything
to do with this.

Professional programmers whose companies will buy CW for them may not care.

Who will?

Small companies, shareware guys, hobbyists, students who no longer officially are, innovators, etc.

In short, some of the very people we want developing for Macintosh.

Who else will care?

Apple Computer and its customers who want to encourage, not discourage, Mac development.

I'm not saying Metrowerks doesn't work hard and doesn't deserve compensation for their excellent
products.
I'm just saying the price is making me hesitate.  I've got CW 6.1 and the free development tools
that come
with OS X.  Maybe that's enough for now.

In article <3B81809A.27DB2F30@earthlink.net>,
 James Hober <jhober@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I'm not saying Metrowerks doesn't work hard and doesn't deserve compensation 
>for their excellent
>products.

I'm glad you understand.  

>I'm just saying the price is making me hesitate. 

I understand and when I first saw this I was taken aback too.  

> I've got CW 6.1 and the free 
>development tools
>that come
>with OS X.  Maybe that's enough for now.

One thing to remember is it is not any cheaper to skip a version 
anymore.  If you skip one it will be almost as much to buy a full 
version the next time.  

But I do understand, and I also hate paying for updates when I don't 
necessarily need the new features.

If you are going to OS X though I highly recommend this and think the 
price is cheap compared to the price savings.

Ron

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Has the Windows SDK help access been improved in this version?

When I updated to the v6 Mac/Win combo I really wanted to dump Microsoft VC
but I was not able to mainly because of the poor/slow IDE access to the
Windows SDK info.

The show stopper for me was the lack of a direct, instant linkage between
the IDE and the Win32 SDK online reference info.  In the Mac version of the
IDE I can highlight a Mac API call, do a key stroke shortcut and bang I am
looking at detailed API info.  This feature did not exist in the Windows
version of the v6 IDE.  In the Windows version I had to go to the desktop
Start menu, slowly sweep the mouse through several folder icon levels to
find "Win32SDK" and this only opened a help window.  Once the help window
appears I still had to click on a 'Help Topics' tab and then manually type
the word that I am looking for into an index or find box.  That burns up way
too much time and energy.  The Microsoft Windows API is unintuitive and
inconsistent - I have been coding for Windows for five years and I still
have to be in the Windows reference material constantly as I code and debug.
Unless I can get the same level of instant access to SDK info in the Windows
version as in the Mac then I am very hesitant to continue upgrade the combo.

Best regards, Major H.
majorh@mac.com
http://www.battlefront.com/

>In the Mac version of the
>IDE I can highlight a Mac API call, do a key stroke shortcut and bang I am
>looking at detailed API info.

How do you do that?!

>In the Mac version of the
>IDE I can highlight a Mac API call, do a key stroke shortcut and bang I am
>looking at detailed API info.

How do you do that?!

"James Hober" <jhober@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3B884850.CBE3D3B3@earthlink.net...
> >In the Mac version of the
> >IDE I can highlight a Mac API call, do a key stroke shortcut and bang
I am
> >looking at detailed API info.
>
> How do you do that?!

You have to have a copy of THINK Reference which details Mac OS Toolbox
calls.  Then, the key is bound to "Find Reference".

> > >In the Mac version of the
> > >IDE I can highlight a Mac API call, do a key stroke shortcut and bang
> I am
> > >looking at detailed API info.
> >
> > How do you do that?!
>
> You have to have a copy of THINK Reference which details Mac OS Toolbox
> calls.  Then, the key is bound to "Find Reference".

Oh yeah.  I guess I knew that.  But THINK Reference is old and costs money.
So if you want up-to-date API documentation you still have to go to Apple's ADC
 site, which is fine but not instantaneous.

MS VC++ also has that intellisense thingy.  Wasn't Metrowerks working on something
comparable: completion of your typing and/or getting a popup of the argument types
when you hover your mouse over a call?

In article <B7AD2C48.3FA33%majorh@mac.com>, Major H <majorh@mac.com> 
wrote:

>Has the Windows SDK help access been improved in this version?

I don't know I haven't installed the entire package yet but if you write 
me towards the end of the week I will let you know for sure.

>When I updated to the v6 Mac/Win combo I really wanted to dump Microsoft VC
>but I was not able to mainly because of the poor/slow IDE access to the
>Windows SDK info.
>
>The show stopper for me was the lack of a direct, instant linkage between
>the IDE and the Win32 SDK online reference info.  

It should have been there, it was before but  CW 6 had lots of problems 
With internactive help.

I appreciate your feedback on this.  And drop me a line in a few days 
regarding the Win32 API help.

Ron

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In article <prager-50B6BD.04474409082001@bos-proxy.ext.ray.com>, Ken
Prager <prager@ieee.org> wrote:

> > Some of the new and improved features include:
> > 
> >   New Carbonized IDE v4.2.5

Do you know if the new IDE will improve the speed/lag issue in the
older IDE? In CodeWarrior IDE 4.1.0.3 and prior I get a lag when I type
which makes it very annoying at times. I feel like I'm typing through a
300 baud modem.

Thanks.

Joe

In article <100920011204535930%tornado@NOSPAMthelatebar.com>,
 Tornado <tornado@NOSPAMthelatebar.com> wrote:

>> >   New Carbonized IDE v4.2.5
>
>Do you know if the new IDE will improve the speed/lag issue in the
>older IDE? In CodeWarrior IDE 4.1.0.3 and prior I get a lag when I type
>which makes it very annoying at times. I feel like I'm typing through a
>300 baud modem.

Are you running under  OS X or 9.    If you are running under 9, then 
there were some conflicting applications that made it seem so slow.

If you are under OS X then I never seen it that slow but yes there were 
some lags and that was fixed.  I find the editor in OS X to be rather 
zippy on my PowerBook.

Ron

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