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In article <8po1u4$k52$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,  <bclarke928@my-deja.com> wrote:
> It is really tough getting almost any agency to allow reasonable
> accommodation for bicyclists.  It was extremely tough getting Metro to
> expand access for bikes or getting the NPS to allow bicycle events on
> the GW Pkwy.  It's tough because bicyclists are commonly regarded
> as "lawless hooligans".

Amen, guv'na. They almost remind me of those damn rebel bastards in The
Colonies back in the 1770s. Imagine deciding not to play by the reigning
establishment's rules, just because they believed they weren't getting a
fair shake. Embarrassing, demeaning, just downright shameful.

miguel

Jon,

Please forward this request to Critical-Mass.Org

Please use scooters, skateboards or roller blades if you insist on
petty feuds with the police or waging war on motorists.  Don't use
bicycles.

It is really tough getting almost any agency to allow reasonable
accommodation for bicyclists.  It was extremely tough getting Metro to
expand access for bikes or getting the NPS to allow bicycle events on
the GW Pkwy.  It's tough because bicyclists are commonly regarded
as "lawless hooligans".

Please, Critical-Mass, stop giving bicycle enthusiasts a bad name.

Bill Clarke
Greenbelt, MD


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Look at those truck drivers in London now.  They should all be locked up!  The
nerve, protesting high gas prices!

Why not send the message, drive a lorry, go to jail!?

What about truck driver jamming the streets and highways of Washington DC,
just to protest the Clinton policies?  They surely incurred more costs and and
dissent by blocking streets with their big rigs.  Let's send the message,
Drive aan eighteen wheeler, go to jail!

It's alright for truck drivers to block freeways on a Monday morning in order
to protest, but bad to ride a bicycle in the flow of traffic.

A truck stopped as a barricade, good, a moving bicycle, bad.

I sure hope we don't see any motoring protests in LA.  The city would come to
a halt.  But, people would likely support it by contributing their own
vehicles to the barricade.

Imagine the sight if 18 wheelers jammed up the off ramps from the LA Freeways
in protest of high gas prices.  Citizens from all around, would probably come,
just to idle their cars on the freeways.

Imagine the police escorting truck drivers away in handcuffs, whil their rigs
are being towed through the dense traffic.

At least Bill Clinton is still telling us he is doing everything he can, to
bring prices down.  It's a shame though, that he asked OPEC to cut production
in March, in order to raise the values of Al Gore's Occidental Petroleum
stocks.  But then, I'm sure high gas prices only hurt the wealthy, who make
$34,000 a year and up.  BTW, did Occidental stock prices go up, as Clinton and
Gore hoped they would?

Well, enough fun imagining that truck drivers would get upset by rising gas
prices and protest, in the real world, bicycles are the only problems the
world faces.  And of course, the worst of the worst.

Jack Dingler

Miguel Cruz wrote:

> In article <8po1u4$k52$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,  <bclarke928@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > It is really tough getting almost any agency to allow reasonable
> > accommodation for bicyclists.  It was extremely tough getting Metro to
> > expand access for bikes or getting the NPS to allow bicycle events on
> > the GW Pkwy.  It's tough because bicyclists are commonly regarded
> > as "lawless hooligans".
>
> Amen, guv'na. They almost remind me of those damn rebel bastards in The
> Colonies back in the 1770s. Imagine deciding not to play by the reigning
> establishment's rules, just because they believed they weren't getting a
> fair shake. Embarrassing, demeaning, just downright shameful.
>
> miguel

  Jack Dingler <jdingler@texas.net> wrote:

> It's alright for truck drivers to block freeways on a Monday morning
in order
> to protest, but bad to ride a bicycle in the flow of traffic.
>
> A truck stopped as a barricade, good, a moving bicycle, bad.

How many Washington DC area commuters were delayed because of the
Trucker's protest ride?  None - according to the news reports I saw.
They had enough sense to make their point without blocking traffic.

In contrast, the 1996 (or 95?) Janitor's protest made a mess of DC rush
hour traffic by blocking some of the bridges leading into the city.
That boneheaded tactic cost the Janitor's any sympathy they may have
had.  As a result of their protest, a bill was introduced to raise the
fine for blockading a bridge to $5,000.


Bill Clarke
Greenbelt, MD



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According to the following article...,

http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/02/22/trucker.protest.01/index.html

A few streets were blocked off, and they did time the protest after rush
hour.

Do we have your promise, that US truck drivers will never do, what truck
drivers in London are doing?

Maybe the trucking protest in the US will never be repeated, no matter how
high prices get?  Maybe they're done protesting?  Maybe if they did block
pumps, causing backups on to freeways, they'll be placed under mass arrest
and their vehicles will be towed?  Or would you guess that they would
receive media and police support?

What do you think would happen, if truck drivers choked a city for a day or
two, in the US?

Opinions?

Jack Dingler


bclarke928@my-deja.com wrote:

>   Jack Dingler <jdingler@texas.net> wrote:
>
> > It's alright for truck drivers to block freeways on a Monday morning
> in order
> > to protest, but bad to ride a bicycle in the flow of traffic.
> >
> > A truck stopped as a barricade, good, a moving bicycle, bad.
>
> How many Washington DC area commuters were delayed because of the
> Trucker's protest ride?  None - according to the news reports I saw.
> They had enough sense to make their point without blocking traffic.
>
> In contrast, the 1996 (or 95?) Janitor's protest made a mess of DC rush
> hour traffic by blocking some of the bridges leading into the city.
> That boneheaded tactic cost the Janitor's any sympathy they may have
> had.  As a result of their protest, a bill was introduced to raise the
> fine for blockading a bridge to $5,000.
>
> Bill Clarke
> Greenbelt, MD
>
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> Before you buy.

On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:50:13 -0500, Jack Dingler <jdingler@texas.net>
ejaculated:

>What do you think would happen, if truck drivers choked a city for a day or
>two, in the US?
>
>Opinions?

	That already happened before, once in New York and several
times in DC. for various reasons. Cabbies tried it in NY too. Results
of the NY protest? Some impounded trucks and arrests. Truckers have a
lot more to lose than bicyclists do so once a few trucks were towed,
and a few arrests were made, the thing mostly broke up. Of course the
charges were later dropped once the roads were clear and protests
over.
	I doubt that you will see a gasoline tax revolt here any time
soon. Americans don't take abuse any better than Europeans do but most
Americans don't even know what percentage of gasoline cost is tax. The
tax is not allowed to be posted on gas pumps, at least in NY, probably
because the gummint doesn't want us to get upset with them. Ignorance
is bliss.
	FYI,  It is about 22% in the U.S. and 80% in the UK. -AP
--

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