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Shane Badham <shane@wonk.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I have had ISDN for about a year and I am very disappointed, and now
> feeling "choked" myself since the transfer is now worse.
> > 
> Anyone else getting peed-off with the performance?

I'm sorry to report that I'm just not having the problems you are. I
regualrly get 6-7k downloads with occasional slow connections, but 90%
of the time all is ok. 

Not much help I know, but could it just be your system/ISP/TA (or a
combination of these) playing up? I wouldn't have a clue where to start
.... until I have problems I tend not to bother finding out myself.

In article <1emodm8.24o9knyncaf4N%shane@wonk.demon.co.uk>,
shane@wonk.demon.co.uk (Shane Badham) wrote:

>I have been experiencing slow transfer rates for the past 2 months,
>mail, news, FTP and Web. It seems like the Internet is just choked.

Not all of it, but yes, performance has been patchy.

Just my impression, but News has been slower during December, but was not
too bad today. I'm using a V90 modem, so maybe our experience won't be
quite the same. 

Certainly, I've not been worried enough about it to take demon.service, but
if it's generalised that's where to find out.

-- 
Peter

Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <1emodm8.24o9knyncaf4N%shane@wonk.demon.co.uk>,
> shane@wonk.demon.co.uk (Shane Badham) wrote:
> 
> >I have been experiencing slow transfer rates for the past 2 months,
> >mail, news, FTP and Web. It seems like the Internet is just choked.
> 
> Not all of it, but yes, performance has been patchy.
> 
> Just my impression, but News has been slower during December, but was not
> too bad today. I'm using a V90 modem, so maybe our experience won't be
> quite the same. 
> 
> Certainly, I've not been worried enough about it to take demon.service, but
> if it's generalised that's where to find out.

Thank you both for your replies. I guess it is me then.

I am upgrading to a G3 desktop, so it should improve. It takes such a
long time to get everything ready for the change over: cables, space for
the new machine, a "flawless" plan... - Ha! If there is such a thing!
:-)

-- 
Thanks and regards,   Shane.
"A closed mouth gathers no feet!"

In article <1emzif4.libp3qpifcqwN%shane@wonk.demon.co.uk>,
shane@wonk.demon.co.uk (Shane Badham) wrote:

>I am upgrading to a G3 desktop, so it should improve. It takes such a
>long time to get everything ready for the change over: cables, space for
>the new machine, a "flawless" plan... - Ha! If there is such a thing!
>:-)

Is this a B&W "modern" G3, or a beige desktop machine like mine? Either
way, it should be a lovely experience- I remember how everything fairly
flew...

Something worth bearing in mind; if you're using sys 8.x, then
SpeedDoubler8 is well worth using, makes the whole machine beautifully
quick and responsive. My tuppence-worth...

Have a great time.

-- 
Peter

Shane Badham <shane@wonk.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> 
> I have been experiencing slow transfer rates for the past 2 months,
> mail, news, FTP and Web. It seems like the Internet is just choked.
> 
> I have had ISDN for about a year and I am very disappointed, and now
> feeling "choked" myself since the transfer is now worse.
> 
> This evening the news headers spent more time on 0 than any other
> bits/sec! I rarely get anything much above 5K, unless its a very short
> burst of 10 or 11k (very rare). Average is around 2 to 2.5K.
> 
> Anyone else getting peed-off with the performance?

Hi,

A followup to my own post, ha!

I got rid of some old files and increased the amount of disk space,
might just have  been critical. Over the weekend I installed my
new-to-me G3 (it flies, more than twice the speed of my old 8200). I
thought this will fix it.

Tonight (Monday) its like shovelling treacle! :-(

I changed from the G5 ISDN line, to the G4, to the standard line...

On the standard line, it flew!!!

So it is definitely Demons capacity I am fighting. The standard line
must be lightly loaded. I got 7 pages of BBC News plus weather
downloaded in 5mins! I fought for 8mins on the G5 line and gave up after
only three pages.

-- 
Regards,   Shane.
"A closed mouth gathers no feet!"

In article <1enas2j.13eie2xqwoj6iN%shane@wonk.demon.co.uk>,
shane@wonk.demon.co.uk (Shane Badham) wrote:

>I changed from the G5 ISDN line, to the G4, to the standard line...
>
>On the standard line, it flew!!!
>
>So it is definitely Demons capacity I am fighting. The standard line
>must be lightly loaded. I got 7 pages of BBC News plus weather
>downloaded in 5mins! I fought for 8mins on the G5 line and gave up after
>only three pages.

I'm not sure what you say you have done; using the G4 line, are you still
using ISDN, or are you using a modem? I don't know much about ISDN lines.

I've only ever used a standard line (Telewest usually, but also a BT line
which is fractionally slower) with a V90 Courier, and rates are pretty
good. But people I know who are using ISDN to Demon have never complained
about the throughput, and are getting rather faster rates than my 56k,
which is as it should be.

Do you think maybe it might be worth checking out your ISDN setup? Could
you set up an account using ISDN with (maybe) Freeserve or Tesco, and see
how the rates compare?

-- 
Peter

Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <1emzif4.libp3qpifcqwN%shane@wonk.demon.co.uk>,
> shane@wonk.demon.co.uk (Shane Badham) wrote:
> 
> >I am upgrading to a G3 desktop, so it should improve. It takes such a
> >long time to get everything ready for the change over: cables, space for
> >the new machine, a "flawless" plan... - Ha! If there is such a thing!
> >:-)
> 
> Is this a B&W "modern" G3, or a beige desktop machine like mine? Either
> way, it should be a lovely experience- I remember how everything fairly
> flew...

Its a beige one, Peter. I already have a USB card for my scanner and
soon my new printer too. It is certainly an improvement over the 8200,
except for the traffic on Demons G5 line (see other thread).

> Something worth bearing in mind; if you're using sys 8.x, then
> SpeedDoubler8 is well worth using, makes the whole machine beautifully
> quick and responsive. My tuppence-worth...

I have studiously avoided the speed-up/more-space gizmos so far. Dont
realy trust them all that much. They seem to need constant updating,
from the comments I have seen.

> Have a great time.

Thanks, I will! :-)

-- 
Regards,   Shane.
"A closed mouth gathers no feet!"

In article <1enclui.ifazzc1oog3joN%shane@wonk.demon.co.uk>,
shane@wonk.demon.co.uk (Shane Badham) wrote:

>I have studiously avoided the speed-up/more-space gizmos so far. Dont
>realy trust them all that much. They seem to need constant updating,
>from the comments I have seen.

SpeedDoubler8, with one update so far (running 8.1.1 here, started with
8.0) is terrific, and a purely positive experience. You won't believe how
much livelier it makes the G3 feel; the Finder in sys 8.1 still has quite a
bit of legacy 68k code, and SpeedDoubler8 makes a real difference.
CopyAgent, which is an integral part of it, is also excellent in all sorts
of ways. I wouldn't be without them, and they have caused no trouble.
Without them, the machine feels dead.

-- 
Peter

Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <1enas2j.13eie2xqwoj6iN%shane@wonk.demon.co.uk>,
> shane@wonk.demon.co.uk (Shane Badham) wrote:
> 
> >I changed from the G5 ISDN line, to the G4, to the standard line...
> >
> >On the standard line, it flew!!!
> >
> >So it is definitely Demons capacity I am fighting. The standard line
> >must be lightly loaded. I got 7 pages of BBC News plus weather
> >downloaded in 5mins! I fought for 8mins on the G5 line and gave up after
> >only three pages.
> 
> I'm not sure what you say you have done; using the G4 line, are you still
> using ISDN, or are you using a modem? I don't know much about ISDN lines.
> 
> I've only ever used a standard line (Telewest usually, but also a BT line
> which is fractionally slower) with a V90 Courier, and rates are pretty
> good. But people I know who are using ISDN to Demon have never complained
> about the throughput, and are getting rather faster rates than my 56k,
> which is as it should be.
> 
> Do you think maybe it might be worth checking out your ISDN setup? Could
> you set up an account using ISDN with (maybe) Freeserve or Tesco, and see
> how the rates compare?

I've been suffering slow/intermittent transfer rates connecting to 0844
041 6662 (never can remember the d*d G numbers). Some of those
discussing packet loss on Demon.service are reporting symptoms similar
to those I see (looking at the behaviour of the connection, the line
drops, and the receive/send lights on my modem. Speaking of which, G4
running OS 9.04, Pace 56 voice with (I think) all appropriate upgrades.)

Can anyone suggest any software that I could run to gather the date
useful in a report to dialupfaults? I can ping with DNSlookup, but it
doesn't record packet loss, etc. I presume I can determine which
router/whatever I connect from the ping path?

regards
sarah


-- 
'legs to walk and thoughts to fly
 eyes to laugh and lips to cry
 a restless tongue to classify
 all born to grow and grown to die'

In article <1enl5gk.1k9t5v91knodzrN%swroot@farm-direct.co.uk>,
swroot@farm-direct.co.uk (swroot) wrote:

>Can anyone suggest any software that I could run to gather the date
>useful in a report to dialupfaults? I can ping with DNSlookup, but it
>doesn't record packet loss, etc. I presume I can determine which
>router/whatever I connect from the ping path?

Try using MacTCP Watcher. You can get that kind of info from it. And yes,
you can do a ping or a trace to get th i.d of the router- and everything
else on the way.

I realise that you are using quite different numbers from me; I'm not using
any BT surftime numbers, just the ordinary ROMPs via Telewest. So maybe
there's more congestion on your route? Maybe it's all down to BT?

-- 
Peter

Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <1enl5gk.1k9t5v91knodzrN%swroot@farm-direct.co.uk>,
> swroot@farm-direct.co.uk (swroot) wrote:
> 
> >Can anyone suggest any software that I could run to gather the date
> >useful in a report to dialupfaults? I can ping with DNSlookup, but it
> >doesn't record packet loss, etc. I presume I can determine which
> >router/whatever I connect from the ping path?
> 
> Try using MacTCP Watcher. You can get that kind of info from it. And yes,
> you can do a ping or a trace to get th i.d of the router- and everything
> else on the way.
> 
> I realise that you are using quite different numbers from me; I'm not using
> any BT surftime numbers, just the ordinary ROMPs via Telewest. So maybe
> there's more congestion on your route? Maybe it's all down to BT?

hmm. Any suggestions as to how to judge? Initial connections to both
Surfport 'modem' numbers in October were fine. I was affected by the
major BT SNAFU (which was most definitely BT), after which I recall no
problems for at least a few weeks. This seems to have developed
gradually...  Currently I experience the following: 

a) connect normally at c. 46666 (more usually 45333, down a tad from
preG-whatever). Reasonable downloads  ('solid' Receive light on modem,
regular flash of Send), no pauses. Most of my connections are less than
10 minutes (email and news only), and I'd guess about 60% appear fine.

b) apparently connect normally, collect mail/news/whatever. Transfer
begins, may stutter once or twice (Receive light off for short periods),
followed by no Receive, one or two regular Send flashes (presumably my
end asking if anyone is there). The connection may revive within a
minute or so, which happened _a lot_ when I was downloading RealAudio
yesterday. Out of curiousity I pinged sdps.demon.co.uk (using DNS
Lookup) when the connection was apparently dead, and sure enough the
ping timed out after 34 seconds. When the connection revived the ping
informed me that the server was alive.

Alternatively a dead period (no Receive at all) of about 30 seconds or
so is followed by a Remote Access popup informing me that my connection
has been terminated. The RA Activity log says nothing at all useful
about how/why/by whom the connection was terminated: sessions ending in
this fashion cannot be distinguised from those which end normally. My
Idle timeout is set at 10 minutes in RA, so I don't think my end is
terminating.

regards
sarah

-- 
'legs to walk and thoughts to fly
 eyes to laugh and lips to cry
 a restless tongue to classify
 all born to grow and grown to die'

Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <1enas2j.13eie2xqwoj6iN%shane@wonk.demon.co.uk>,
> shane@wonk.demon.co.uk (Shane Badham) wrote:
> 
> >I changed from the G5 ISDN line, to the G4, to the standard line...
> >
> >On the standard line, it flew!!!
> >
> >So it is definitely Demons capacity I am fighting. The standard line
> >must be lightly loaded. I got 7 pages of BBC News plus weather
> >downloaded in 5mins! I fought for 8mins on the G5 line and gave up after
> >only three pages.
> 
> I'm not sure what you say you have done; using the G4 line, are you still
> using ISDN, or are you using a modem? I don't know much about ISDN lines.
> 
> I've only ever used a standard line (Telewest usually, but also a BT line
> which is fractionally slower) with a V90 Courier, and rates are pretty
> good. But people I know who are using ISDN to Demon have never complained
> about the throughput, and are getting rather faster rates than my 56k,
> which is as it should be.
> 
> Do you think maybe it might be worth checking out your ISDN setup? Could
> you set up an account using ISDN with (maybe) Freeserve or Tesco, and see
> how the rates compare?

ISDN on Standard, G4 and G5 lines, but see my later post.

-- 
Regards,   Shane.
"A closed mouth gathers no feet!"

swroot <swroot@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote:

> Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1enas2j.13eie2xqwoj6iN%shane@wonk.demon.co.uk>,
> > shane@wonk.demon.co.uk (Shane Badham) wrote:
> > 
> > >I changed from the G5 ISDN line, to the G4, to the standard line...
> > >
> > >On the standard line, it flew!!!
> > >
> > >So it is definitely Demons capacity I am fighting. The standard line
> > >must be lightly loaded. I got 7 pages of BBC News plus weather
> > >downloaded in 5mins! I fought for 8mins on the G5 line and gave up after
> > >only three pages.
> > 
> > I'm not sure what you say you have done; using the G4 line, are you still
> > using ISDN, or are you using a modem? I don't know much about ISDN lines.
> > 
> > I've only ever used a standard line (Telewest usually, but also a BT line
> > which is fractionally slower) with a V90 Courier, and rates are pretty
> > good. But people I know who are using ISDN to Demon have never complained
> > about the throughput, and are getting rather faster rates than my 56k,
> > which is as it should be.
> > 
> > Do you think maybe it might be worth checking out your ISDN setup? Could
> > you set up an account using ISDN with (maybe) Freeserve or Tesco, and see
> > how the rates compare?
> 
> I've been suffering slow/intermittent transfer rates connecting to 0844
> 041 6662 (never can remember the d*d G numbers). Some of those
> discussing packet loss on Demon.service are reporting symptoms similar
> to those I see (looking at the behaviour of the connection, the line
> drops, and the receive/send lights on my modem. Speaking of which, G4
> running OS 9.04, Pace 56 voice with (I think) all appropriate upgrades.)
> 
> Can anyone suggest any software that I could run to gather the date
> useful in a report to dialupfaults? I can ping with DNSlookup, but it
> doesn't record packet loss, etc. I presume I can determine which
> router/whatever I connect from the ping path?
> 
> regards
> sarah

Thanks Sarah, I was beginning to thik I was dreaming!!!
Nobody else seems to have prroblems!

-- 
Regards,   Shane.
"A closed mouth gathers no feet!"

swroot <swroot@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote:

> Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > In article <1enl5gk.1k9t5v91knodzrN%swroot@farm-direct.co.uk>,
> > swroot@farm-direct.co.uk (swroot) wrote:
> > 
> > >Can anyone suggest any software that I could run to gather the date
> > >useful in a report to dialupfaults? I can ping with DNSlookup, but it
> > >doesn't record packet loss, etc. I presume I can determine which
> > >router/whatever I connect from the ping path?
> > 
> > Try using MacTCP Watcher. You can get that kind of info from it. And yes,
> > you can do a ping or a trace to get th i.d of the router- and everything
> > else on the way.
> > 
> > I realise that you are using quite different numbers from me; I'm not using
> > any BT surftime numbers, just the ordinary ROMPs via Telewest. So maybe
> > there's more congestion on your route? Maybe it's all down to BT?
> 
> hmm. Any suggestions as to how to judge? Initial connections to both
> Surfport 'modem' numbers in October were fine. I was affected by the
> major BT SNAFU (which was most definitely BT), after which I recall no
> problems for at least a few weeks. This seems to have developed
> gradually...  Currently I experience the following: 
> 
> a) connect normally at c. 46666 (more usually 45333, down a tad from
> preG-whatever). Reasonable downloads  ('solid' Receive light on modem,
> regular flash of Send), no pauses. Most of my connections are less than
> 10 minutes (email and news only), and I'd guess about 60% appear fine.
> 
> b) apparently connect normally, collect mail/news/whatever. Transfer
> begins, may stutter once or twice (Receive light off for short periods),
> followed by no Receive, one or two regular Send flashes (presumably my
> end asking if anyone is there). The connection may revive within a
> minute or so, which happened _a lot_ when I was downloading RealAudio
> yesterday. Out of curiousity I pinged sdps.demon.co.uk (using DNS
> Lookup) when the connection was apparently dead, and sure enough the
> ping timed out after 34 seconds. When the connection revived the ping
> informed me that the server was alive.
> 
> Alternatively a dead period (no Receive at all) of about 30 seconds or
> so is followed by a Remote Access popup informing me that my connection
> has been terminated. The RA Activity log says nothing at all useful
> about how/why/by whom the connection was terminated: sessions ending in
> this fashion cannot be distinguised from those which end normally. My
> Idle timeout is set at 10 minutes in RA, so I don't think my end is
> terminating.
> 
> regards
> sarah

Same as me. Its the surftime numbers. They are definitely overloaded.
I have started changing to the standard line when it clogs up.

-- 
Regards,   Shane.
"A closed mouth gathers no feet!"

Shane Badham <shane@wonk.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> swroot <swroot@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > In article <1enl5gk.1k9t5v91knodzrN%swroot@farm-direct.co.uk>,
> > > swroot@farm-direct.co.uk (swroot) wrote:
> > > 
> > > >Can anyone suggest any software that I could run to gather the date
> > > >useful in a report to dialupfaults? I can ping with DNSlookup, but it
> > > >doesn't record packet loss, etc. I presume I can determine which
> > > >router/whatever I connect from the ping path?
> > > 
> > > Try using MacTCP Watcher. You can get that kind of info from it. And yes,
> > > you can do a ping or a trace to get th i.d of the router- and everything
> > > else on the way.
> > > 
> > > I realise that you are using quite different numbers from me; I'm not
> > > using any BT surftime numbers, just the ordinary ROMPs via Telewest.
> > > So maybe there's more congestion on your route? Maybe it's all down to
> > > BT?
> > 
> > hmm. Any suggestions as to how to judge? Initial connections to both
> > Surfport 'modem' numbers in October were fine. I was affected by the
> > major BT SNAFU (which was most definitely BT), after which I recall no
> > problems for at least a few weeks. This seems to have developed
> > gradually...  Currently I experience the following: 
> > 
> > a) connect normally at c. 46666 (more usually 45333, down a tad from
> > preG-whatever). Reasonable downloads  ('solid' Receive light on modem,
> > regular flash of Send), no pauses. Most of my connections are less than
> > 10 minutes (email and news only), and I'd guess about 60% appear fine.
> > 
> > b) apparently connect normally, collect mail/news/whatever. Transfer
> > begins, may stutter once or twice (Receive light off for short periods),
> > followed by no Receive, one or two regular Send flashes (presumably my
> > end asking if anyone is there). The connection may revive within a
> > minute or so, which happened _a lot_ when I was downloading RealAudio
> > yesterday. Out of curiousity I pinged sdps.demon.co.uk (using DNS
> > Lookup) when the connection was apparently dead, and sure enough the
> > ping timed out after 34 seconds. When the connection revived the ping
> > informed me that the server was alive.
> > 
> > Alternatively a dead period (no Receive at all) of about 30 seconds or
> > so is followed by a Remote Access popup informing me that my connection
> > has been terminated. The RA Activity log says nothing at all useful
> > about how/why/by whom the connection was terminated: sessions ending in
> > this fashion cannot be distinguised from those which end normally. My
> > Idle timeout is set at 10 minutes in RA, so I don't think my end is
> > terminating.
> > 
> > regards
> > sarah
> 
> Same as me. Its the surftime numbers. They are definitely overloaded.
> I have started changing to the standard line when it clogs up.

I'm not certain of this... perhaps I'm gullible, but Demon were adamant
they could handle the 'Surftime' loads. There've been comments on
demon.service about the ways in which BT could be contributing to the
problem because of the way calls are routed (Demon isn't using SurfTime,
it's actually SurfPort). At any rate, I've an acquaintance who knows
something about packet loss and other network problems; his description
of the possible causes left me feeling extremely sorry for Demon's
techs. I'd send them a few batches of chocolate brownies if I thought it
would help.

regards
sarah


-- 
'legs to walk and thoughts to fly
 eyes to laugh and lips to cry
 a restless tongue to classify
 all born to grow and grown to die'

Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> SpeedDoubler8, with one update so far (running 8.1.1 here, started with
> 8.0) is terrific, and a purely positive experience. You won't believe how
> much livelier it makes the G3 feel;


I wouldn't want to be without SpeedDoubler. I'm running 8.5.1 (the most
fireproof system I have known, and my first Mac was a 512K) on a beige
G3 and installing SpeedDoubler made quite a difference. I'm using Ram
Doubler too, although I gather you must instal the 9.something patch
that Connectix have available if you want to use this with MS MacOffice.

On the question of overload Shane Badham notes:

>Its the surftime numbers. They are definitely overloaded.
>I have started changing to the standard line when it clogs up.


I don't have a Surftime agreement ( I'm waiting for ADSL but no-one
seems to care) but I use the Surftime numbers most of the time because
they are allegedly much cheaper, even without a Surftime deal. When they
are overloaded, usually after 6.30 at night, I switch to the standard
number, and rely on Friends and Family to bear some of the strain.

I have the various connection options listed in Free PPP setup, which
itself is one of the selections on another bit of invaluable software,
PPP menu 2.03 produced by Rockstar, which is one little accessory I'd be
loathe to do without. Under this menu, apart from FreePPP setup I also
have the various 'net programs - Eudora, MacSoup, IE and OE, together
with the Notepad and Applescripts like the invaluable Get & Send Mail.
Now, I can fire any one or more at the click of the mouse.

-- 
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Frazer Wright <frazer@fragoliver7.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > SpeedDoubler8, with one update so far (running 8.1.1 here, started with
> > 8.0) is terrific, and a purely positive experience. You won't believe how
> > much livelier it makes the G3 feel;
> 
> 
> I wouldn't want to be without SpeedDoubler. I'm running 8.5.1 (the most
> fireproof system I have known, and my first Mac was a 512K) on a beige
> G3 and installing SpeedDoubler made quite a difference. I'm using Ram
> Doubler too, although I gather you must instal the 9.something patch
> that Connectix have available if you want to use this with MS MacOffice.
> 
> On the question of overload Shane Badham notes:
> 
> >Its the surftime numbers. They are definitely overloaded.
> >I have started changing to the standard line when it clogs up.
> 
> 
> I don't have a Surftime agreement ( I'm waiting for ADSL but no-one
> seems to care) but I use the Surftime numbers most of the time because
> they are allegedly much cheaper, even without a Surftime deal. When they
> are overloaded, usually after 6.30 at night, I switch to the standard
> number, and rely on Friends and Family to bear some of the strain.
> 
Exactly what I have started doing. However, my latest connects have been
better the latter half of last week and the weekend. It started to clog
up again on Sunday. I have Friends and Family plus BT Together with
Homewhatsit (ISDN), so the cost is not too bad. This last quarter I
whittled my debit down from 70 to 20 UKP.

There is a strong possibility we may move to SE Devon in the autumn. I
may stop using the ISDN then and get a V90 modem. I dont think I have
ever had full value out of ISDN, because of the poor bandwidth. Probably
BTs fault not Demon's. I am a bit sceptical about ASDL too, although I
have heard good reports from others.

> I have the various connection options listed in Free PPP setup, which
> itself is one of the selections on another bit of invaluable software,
> PPP menu 2.03 produced by Rockstar, which is one little accessory I'd be
> loathe to do without. Under this menu, apart from FreePPP setup I also
> have the various 'net programs - Eudora, MacSoup, IE and OE, together
> with the Notepad and Applescripts like the invaluable Get & Send Mail.
> Now, I can fire any one or more at the click of the mouse.

I used to use the FreePPP combo and my son still does on the LC470, but
I use OT and the Remote Access Control Strip module under OS 9.0.4. My
most used Internet apps have aliases in the Apple menu.

My browsers of preference are iCab and Netscape 4.6.1. The latter I use
mainly for secure transactions and Java enabled sites that iCab cant
cope with. However, I like iCab's speed! Although having said that, I
think that Netscape is perceived as slow because it does not render
until it has downloaded everything.

-- 
Regards,   Shane.
"A closed mouth gathers no feet!"

Modem Magic for Macs has increased a lot of my V.90 bandwidth
like to 50666 with good compression on Non-Compressed Files. I
shut compression of in RA whendownloading zipped or stuffed
files.


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In article <961el5$dun$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
reddhabanero@my-deja.com wrote:

>Modem Magic for Macs has increased a lot of my V.90 bandwidth
>like to 50666 with good compression on Non-Compressed Files. I
>shut compression of in RA whendownloading zipped or stuffed
>files.

Does that really make a difference? It used to with early forms of "stupid"
modem compression, but with "intelligent" V42bis it's not necessary. And
I'd be very surprised if it makes any significant difference in ARA- unless
Apple made a real mess of their code.

-- 
Peter

In article <961el5$dun$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, reddhabanero@my-deja.com 
wrote:

> Modem Magic for Macs has increased a lot of my V.90 bandwidth
> like to 50666 with good compression on Non-Compressed Files. I
> shut compression of in RA whendownloading zipped or stuffed
> files.
> 

Do the docs say if Modem Magic support the Pace Solo modem, by any 
chance? I ask as Pace went bump a while ago.

The Opera browser is due soon BTW.

john