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bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:
> This is totally HILARIOUS! Crank up the volume. I feel so sorry for the 
> sales sap who calls this number:
> 
> <http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xi9qf_the-ultimate-revenge-on-a-telemar
> ke>
> 

  Between the Do Not Call law and the privacy manager I get very few 
sales calls. When one get through I act as if I am ready to but and then 
tell then another call came in. I put them on hold and resume whatever I 
was doing.. After a few minutes I tell them to please hold. A few 
minutes later I ask if many people hang up. I tell them those people are 
doing them a favor and their worst enemy is someone like me who prevents 
them from making other calls.
   The reactions range from angry cursing to crying.

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>   Between the Do Not Call law and the privacy manager I get very few
> sales calls.

Unfortunately political campaigns are non-profits and clogging my phone.

rick++ wrote:
> 
>>   Between the Do Not Call law and the privacy manager I get very few
>> sales calls.
> 
> Unfortunately political campaigns are non-profits and clogging my phone.
> 
    I got an automated call from a candidate last night. I emailed his 
office and (truthfully) told him that I had planned to vote for him but 
I will not support any candidate who ties up my phone with recorded 
messages that do not allow me to immediately disconnect. I noted that 
had there been an emergency I would have lost about 30 seconds.
   To his credit he replied this morning but expressed consternation 
that I could not spare 30 seconds to listen, obviously missing the point 
about a potential emergency.
   I would like to see a poll on votes gained vs. votes lost after 
automated calls.


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Abe <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:

>> I got an automated call from a candidate last night. I emailed his
>> office and (truthfully) told him that I had planned to vote for him
>> but I will not support any candidate who ties up my phone with
>> recorded messages that do not allow me to immediately disconnect.
>> I noted that had there been an emergency I would have lost about
>> 30 seconds. To his credit he replied this morning but expressed
>> consternation that I could not spare 30 seconds to listen,
>> obviously missing the point about a potential emergency.

They were never gunna cancel the campaign once you pointed that out.

> I think if you hang up for 5 or more seconds, the call
> will disconnect even if the telemarketer hasn't hung up.

'think' again, it takes longer than that, basically so
you can unplug a phone and move to a different
socket and plug it in again and have the call still there. 

In article <1161725081.731055.260860@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
 "rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >   Between the Do Not Call law and the privacy manager I get very few
> > sales calls.
> 
> Unfortunately political campaigns are non-profits and clogging my phone.

I am on dozens of organizations' phone lists, both political and 
non-political charities. I simply don't answer my phone unless the 
Caller-ID display indicates the caller is someone I know. Hell, even if 
the caller is someone I know, I still feel no obligation to interrupt 
whatever I might be doing to answer the phone.

Stop being a slave to your phone and those calls won't clog your phone 
line.

> non-political charities. I simply don't answer my phone 
> unless the
> Caller-ID display indicates the caller is someone I 
> know. Hell, even if
> the caller is someone I know, I still feel no obligation 
> to interrupt
> whatever I might be doing to answer the phone.
>
> Stop being a slave to your phone and those calls won't 
> clog your phone
> line.

i'm the same way.  If i don't feel like answering the 
phone, i don't.

in fact, i may be one of the few remaining people who 
doesn't even
have caller ID.  It's just not that important to me to see 
who's
calling.  If i answer & it's somone i'm not interested in 
speaking with,
i'll let them know.  And if the call is important to the 
caller, he/she will
leave a msg.

George Grapman  <sfgeorge@pacbell.net> writes:

> I got an automated call from a candidate last night. 

[...]

> I noted that had there been an emergency I would have lost
> about 30 seconds.


So get call waiting.  Problem solved.  Is this a great country,
or what?  There's nothing you can't get here in the Big PX.

Your objection comes across as a bit sanctimonious.  If you don't
have call waiting, you potentially miss an emergency call every
time you're on the phone -- especially when you engage in the
sort of extended, casual chitchat with friends and family that we
all use our telephones for from time to time.

It seems to me that if you were as concerned about missing emer-
gency calls as you profess to be, you'd limit the number and 
duration of your own calls to the absolute minimum.  And it's
possible that you do just that -- but it isn't terribly likely. 
So why not just be forthright about what really bugs you, and 
tell the candidate that his automated calls are objectionable
because they're annoying and intrusive?  Seems to me, that's 
plenty good enough.

_My_ objection to automated calls is a bit different.  I've been
getting an awful lot of election-related phone spam of late.
There was yet another automated message on my answering machine
when I came home last Friday evening.  Being tired after a long 
day, not to mention sick of telephonic political pestering, I 
listened to just enough of it to determine that it was yet another
recording and then hit the Delete button.

The next morning I read a transcript of the recording in a local-
interest newsgroup, ba.mountain-folk; it turned out that everyone
in my community had received it:

"This is the Santa Cruz County Sheriff's department with a recorded
 message.  It's 7:20pm on the 20th of October.  We're calling to 
 notify the residents of the Boulder Creek area that we are looking
 for an armed and dangerous, wanted subject who may be on foot in 
 your area.  His name is Bobby Dean Wilson.  He's a white male in
 his 40's.  He's approximately 5 feet, 9 inches tall and he has a
 stocky build, with shaggy, reddish-blond hair and a moustache, and
 no clothing description at this time.  He is considered armed and
 dangerous.  If you see him or anyone suspicious in your area after
 receiving this message, please stay inside or remain in a safe 
 place, and call 9-1-1 immediately.  Thank you." 

Neat, eh?

Granted, I probably should've listened to the message a _bit_ longer
than I did, but I was tired after a long day, it was Friday evening,
and I was in one of those "Leave me the the hell alone, world" moods.

Maybe this raises a good reason to consider outlawing automated phone
calls not of an emergency nature.  If people get inured to them to the
point where they delete them without even listening to them, there's a
certain "boy who cried 'wolf'" dynamic at work that will eventually
cause somebody to miss something he really does need to hear. 



Geoff

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Shawn Hirn  <srhi@comcast.net> writes:

> I simply don't answer my phone unless the Caller-ID display
> indicates the caller is someone I know. Hell, even if the
> caller is someone I know, I still feel no obligation to
> interrupt whatever I might be doing to answer the phone.


I'm the same way.  A lot of people just can't wrap their 
brains around the idea that I don't have the usual quasi-
Pavlovian response when my telephone rings.  It's funny to
watch them squirm: "Uhh...aren't you going to answer that?"

I'm the one who pays for my phone, and the sumbitch is there
for _my_ convenience -- not the rest of the world's.

Ever noticed that with a lot of people, every new incoming
call is more important than the one they're already on?
I don't get that.  In the case of customer-service people,
I'll even go so far as to say that it pisses me off.  "Why
are you so eager to get me off the phone?  Why is the next
customer any more important than _I_ am?"

I also don't get the way so many people will interrupt a 
face-to-face conversation in order to answer the phone.  
As far as I'm concerned, unless I'm expected an important
call, a person I'm speaking with in the flesh takes prec-
edence over anyone who calls me on the friggin' phone.
That's just good manners.




Geoff

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Abe wrote:
>>    I got an automated call from a candidate last night. I emailed his 
>> office and (truthfully) told him that I had planned to vote for him but 
>> I will not support any candidate who ties up my phone with recorded 
>> messages that do not allow me to immediately disconnect. I noted that 
>> had there been an emergency I would have lost about 30 seconds.
>>   To his credit he replied this morning but expressed consternation 
>> that I could not spare 30 seconds to listen, obviously missing the point 
>> about a potential emergency.
> 
> I think if you hang up for 5 or more seconds, the call will disconnect
> even if the telemarketer hasn't hung up.

  I hung up ,waited 15 seconds and it was still there.

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Shawn Hirn wrote:
> In article <1161725081.731055.260860@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
>  "rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>>   Between the Do Not Call law and the privacy manager I get very few
>>> sales calls.
>> Unfortunately political campaigns are non-profits and clogging my phone.
> 
> I am on dozens of organizations' phone lists, both political and 
> non-political charities. I simply don't answer my phone unless the 
> Caller-ID display indicates the caller is someone I know. Hell, even if 
> the caller is someone I know, I still feel no obligation to interrupt 
> whatever I might be doing to answer the phone.
> 
> Stop being a slave to your phone and those calls won't clog your phone 
> line.

   I have the privacy feature an only a few "unknown number" calls get 
through which I never answer and which rarely leave a message. The call 
from the candidate showed a local number.

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Shawn Hirn wrote:ion to interrupt
> whatever I might be doing to answer the phone.
> 
> Stop being a slave to your phone and those calls won't clog your phone 
> line.

    Hard to ignore the phone when I work at home.
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Geoff Miller wrote:
> George Grapman  <sfgeorge@pacbell.net> writes:
> 
>> I got an automated call from a candidate last night. 
> 
> [...]
> 
>> I noted that had there been an emergency I would have lost
>> about 30 seconds.
> 
> 
> So get call waiting.  Problem solved.  Is this a great country,
> or what?  There's nothing you can't get here in the Big PX.
> 
> Your objection comes across as a bit sanctimonious.  If you don't
> have call waiting, you potentially miss an emergency call every
> time you're on the phone -- especially when you engage in the
> sort of extended, casual chitchat with friends and family that we
> all use our telephones for from time to time.
> 
> It seems to me that if you were as concerned about missing emer-
> gency calls as you profess to be, you'd limit the number and 
> duration of your own calls to the absolute minimum.  And it's
> possible that you do just that -- but it isn't terribly likely. 
> So why not just be forthright about what really bugs you, and 
> tell the candidate that his automated calls are objectionable
> because they're annoying and intrusive?  Seems to me, that's 
> plenty good enough.
> 
> _My_ objection to automated calls is a bit different.  I've been
> getting an awful lot of election-related phone spam of late.
> There was yet another automated message on my answering machine
> when I came home last Friday evening.  Being tired after a long 
> day, not to mention sick of telephonic political pestering, I 
> listened to just enough of it to determine that it was yet another
> recording and then hit the Delete button.
> 
> The next morning I read a transcript of the recording in a local-
> interest newsgroup, ba.mountain-folk; it turned out that everyone
> in my community had received it:
> 
> "This is the Santa Cruz County Sheriff's department with a recorded
>  message.  It's 7:20pm on the 20th of October.  We're calling to 
>  notify the residents of the Boulder Creek area that we are looking
>  for an armed and dangerous, wanted subject who may be on foot in 
>  your area.  His name is Bobby Dean Wilson.  He's a white male in
>  his 40's.  He's approximately 5 feet, 9 inches tall and he has a
>  stocky build, with shaggy, reddish-blond hair and a moustache, and
>  no clothing description at this time.  He is considered armed and
>  dangerous.  If you see him or anyone suspicious in your area after
>  receiving this message, please stay inside or remain in a safe 
>  place, and call 9-1-1 immediately.  Thank you." 
> 
> Neat, eh?
> 
> Granted, I probably should've listened to the message a _bit_ longer
> than I did, but I was tired after a long day, it was Friday evening,
> and I was in one of those "Leave me the the hell alone, world" moods.
> 
> Maybe this raises a good reason to consider outlawing automated phone
> calls not of an emergency nature.  If people get inured to them to the
> point where they delete them without even listening to them, there's a
> certain "boy who cried 'wolf'" dynamic at work that will eventually
> cause somebody to miss something he really does need to hear. 
> 
> 
   True, I have call waiting but while the blurb is playing a caller 
gets a busy signal.

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"George Grapman" <sfgeorge@pacbell.net> wrote in message 
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> Shawn Hirn wrote:ion to interrupt
>> whatever I might be doing to answer the phone.
>>
>> Stop being a slave to your phone and those calls won't clog your phone 
>> line.
>
>    Hard to ignore the phone when I work at home.
> -- 


Get a job in an office then... 




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"George Grapman" <sfgeorge@pacbell.net> wrote in message 
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> Shawn Hirn wrote:
>> In article <1161725081.731055.260860@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
>>  "rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>   Between the Do Not Call law and the privacy manager I get very few
>>>> sales calls.
>>> Unfortunately political campaigns are non-profits and clogging my phone.
>>
>> I am on dozens of organizations' phone lists, both political and 
>> non-political charities. I simply don't answer my phone unless the 
>> Caller-ID display indicates the caller is someone I know. Hell, even if 
>> the caller is someone I know, I still feel no obligation to interrupt 
>> whatever I might be doing to answer the phone.
>>
>> Stop being a slave to your phone and those calls won't clog your phone 
>> line.
>
>   I have the privacy feature an only a few "unknown number" calls get 
> through which I never answer and which rarely leave a message. The call 
> from the candidate showed a local number.
>


Greatest invention in a long time. That privacy thing works great! 




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rick++ wrote:
> 
>>   Between the Do Not Call law and the privacy manager I get very few
>> sales calls.
> 
> Unfortunately political campaigns are non-profits and clogging my phone.

The revenge method would work well on the political calls as well. 
Invariably they are coming from a boiler room in Texas or Florida. The 
people can barely pronounce the words on their script.

C. Massey wrote:
> "George Grapman" <sfgeorge@pacbell.net> wrote in message 
> news:NPK%g.17487$vJ2.1269@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>> Shawn Hirn wrote:ion to interrupt
>>> whatever I might be doing to answer the phone.
>>>
>>> Stop being a slave to your phone and those calls won't clog your phone 
>>> line.
>>    Hard to ignore the phone when I work at home.
>> -- 
> 
> 
> Get a job in an office then... 
> 
> 
  Why? I enjoy the convenience of working at home.
  Your reply is like telling someone who does no like door to dor 
solicitors to move.


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   I worked in a small office.Whenever a telemarketer called we told 
them they had to speak to Robert who was the (pick one) CEO, CFO, 
purchasing manager. Whenever someone asked for Robert we knew it was a 
sales call and and either told them that Robert (pick one) was in a 
meeting on vacation/at a trade show/on a sequestered jury or we just put 
the call on hold.
   A larger company can set up a mail box for Robert where he says that 
he does not take any telephone solicitations and all proposals must be 
via the mail.
   If you do not want to hang up the phone (this actually is a favor to 
them) tell them that you do not do any business on the phone and ask 
them to mail you something. That should end the call.


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"George Grapman" <sfgeorge@pacbell.net> wrote in message 
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> C. Massey wrote:
>> "George Grapman" <sfgeorge@pacbell.net> wrote in message 
>> news:NPK%g.17487$vJ2.1269@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>>> Shawn Hirn wrote:ion to interrupt
>>>> whatever I might be doing to answer the phone.
>>>>
>>>> Stop being a slave to your phone and those calls won't clog your phone 
>>>> line.
>>>    Hard to ignore the phone when I work at home.
>>> -- 
>>
>>
>> Get a job in an office then...
>  Why? I enjoy the convenience of working at home.
>  Your reply is like telling someone who does no like door to dor 
> solicitors to move.
>


Well... that's not a bad idea either... 




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"Abe" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message 
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> >C. Massey wrote:
>>> "George Grapman" <sfgeorge@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>> news:NPK%g.17487$vJ2.1269@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>>>> Shawn Hirn wrote:ion to interrupt
>>>>> whatever I might be doing to answer the phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stop being a slave to your phone and those calls won't clog your phone
>>>>> line.
>>>>    Hard to ignore the phone when I work at home.
>>>> -- 
>>>
>>>
>>> Get a job in an office then...
>>>
>>>
>>  Why? I enjoy the convenience of working at home.
>>  Your reply is like telling someone who does no like door to dor
>>solicitors to move.
> C. Massey's an idiot. Pay him no heed.


Boo Hoo... Abe, that isn't even in the NG that George and I frequent, 
doesn't like me... Boo hoo... I'm so hurt.

Now, get a life abe... 




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On 25 Oct 2006 06:38:25 -0700, geoffm@u1.netgate.net (Geoff Miller)
wrote:
>
>"This is the Santa Cruz County Sheriff's department with a recorded
> message.  It's 7:20pm on the 20th of October.  We're calling to 
> notify the residents of the Boulder Creek area that we are looking
> for an armed and dangerous, wanted subject who may be on foot in 
> your area.  His name is Bobby Dean Wilson.  He's a white male in
> his 40's.  He's approximately 5 feet, 9 inches tall and he has a
> stocky build, with shaggy, reddish-blond hair and a moustache, and
> no clothing description at this time.  He is considered armed and
> dangerous.  If you see him or anyone suspicious in your area after
> receiving this message, please stay inside or remain in a safe 
> place, and call 9-1-1 immediately.  Thank you." 
>
>Neat, eh?
>
For you maybe, where you live.  
But where many people live there's always a criminal loose.  
How about the same call at 2 AM, when it's just as important because
Bobby Dean Wilson might be jimmying your back door?  Or Billy Bubba
Wilcox?  Or Norma Jean Nealy? Or Juan Joachim Jiminez?  Any name, any
time, any place.
Just let the Sheriff call everybody in the fricking county whenever 
a criminal is loose, which is all the fricking time.

>Granted, I probably should've listened to the message a _bit_ longer
>than I did, but I was tired after a long day, it was Friday evening,
>and I was in one of those "Leave me the the hell alone, world" moods.
>
You've got to learn to answer that phone now and check those messages
by listening carefully, even on Friday night.
Might be the Sheriff calling.  Your life may be at risk.
But it looks likes this one call might have got you trained already.
When the Sheriff, or the Marshal, or the Governor, or the sanitation
crew start calling me anytime they want to enlist my help to do their
job, my phone goes right to the trash.  I'll leave the municipal phone
patrol duty to others.  Sorry about being such a bad "citizen."  

>Maybe this raises a good reason to consider outlawing automated phone
>calls not of an emergency nature.  If people get inured to them to the
>point where they delete them without even listening to them, there's a
>certain "boy who cried 'wolf'" dynamic at work that will eventually
>cause somebody to miss something he really does need to hear. 
>
Good idea. I suggest you call the Sheriff's office and tell him that
you read about his important phone message in the newspaper because
all the phone spam put you off his message.
Mention that coincidentally you saw a man matching Bobby Dean Wilson's
description near your home about 8 PM Friday night, rummaging in a
trash can, but thought nothing of it until you read the newspaper.
Might get the ball rolling.  But don't hold your breath waiting for
public safety to trump business and political spam.
BTW, I can recall getting only about 5 or 6 phone spam messages in my
life, all from businesses, and none since I put my name on the
national don't-call register.  The only political calls I get are from
Republicans, and they are quickly dispatched.

--Vic

You guys are missing the opportunity to have fun at THIER expense!
Yep..thats right. keep a recorder connected and ready to go.When they call 
have fun with them! I love to talk with them like i am 95 years old, hard of 
hearing and stump-stupid hahaha..its a riot!
Here is the ticket....screw up words bigtime...example.....

Mortgage=mortuary
Donation=Damnation
Free offer= send it right over, THANK YOU! (then hang up)
A good one...20 seconds into their speil....you say "HELLO!" starts them 
over...and over...and over
Try this one too...tell them to "Hold the wire! i'm looking for my hearing 
aid" flip the receiver over so you can still hear, listen for the snyde 
remarks hahaha
Here is the trick, get them to hang up on YOU! you can do it!
Dont be "nasty" just completely waste thier time.Keep THEM on the phone as 
long as you can.
Being "OLD/CRAZY" drives them completely nuts.I have had telemarketers hang 
up on me, usually saying some like "Oh for the love of god!" before 
terminating the call..
Something like this is FUN.........

TM= Hello, is this mr jones?
YOU= this is mr jones........
TM= good evening mr jones, i am calling on behalf of ugly women...how are 
you tonight?
YOU=What is your name?
TM= This is David.....
YOU=Hi david, i am 92 years old,i have no friends anymore, they all died and 
so did my wife.Will you be my friend?(say this like you have no teeth and or 
drunk)
TM= er..ah..well....ok mr jones......
YOU= THANK GOD! your a nice boy david, hold on a second david, my bag is 
leaking again.....
TM=CLICK!
try it..its fun...you have nothing to lose and the collection of recordings 
is a riot at family gatherings....

When someone nutcase drops a truckload of lemons on your lawn.......make 
lemonade! 

"Porgy Tirebiter" <biteme@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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>
> You guys are missing the opportunity to have fun at THIER expense!
> Yep..thats right. keep a recorder connected and ready to go.When they call 
> have fun with them! I love to talk with them like i am 95 years old, hard 
> of hearing and stump-stupid hahaha..its a riot!
> Here is the ticket....screw up words bigtime...example.....
>
> Mortgage=mortuary
> Donation=Damnation
> Free offer= send it right over, THANK YOU! (then hang up)
> A good one...20 seconds into their speil....you say "HELLO!" starts them 
> over...and over...and over
> Try this one too...tell them to "Hold the wire! i'm looking for my hearing 
> aid" flip the receiver over so you can still hear, listen for the snyde 
> remarks hahaha
> Here is the trick, get them to hang up on YOU! you can do it!
> Dont be "nasty" just completely waste thier time.Keep THEM on the phone as 
> long as you can.
> Being "OLD/CRAZY" drives them completely nuts.I have had telemarketers 
> hang up on me, usually saying some like "Oh for the love of god!" before 
> terminating the call..
> Something like this is FUN.........
>
> TM= Hello, is this mr jones?
> YOU= this is mr jones........
> TM= good evening mr jones, i am calling on behalf of ugly women...how are 
> you tonight?
> YOU=What is your name?
> TM= This is David.....
> YOU=Hi david, i am 92 years old,i have no friends anymore, they all died 
> and so did my wife.Will you be my friend?(say this like you have no teeth 
> and or drunk)
> TM= er..ah..well....ok mr jones......
> YOU= THANK GOD! your a nice boy david, hold on a second david, my bag is 
> leaking again.....
> TM=CLICK!
> try it..its fun...you have nothing to lose and the collection of 
> recordings is a riot at family gatherings....
>
> When someone nutcase drops a truckload of lemons on your lawn.......make 
> lemonade!
>


I have been known to start the call just as they want, then just set the 
phone down and walk away. Once I came back about two minutes later and he 
was still talking. Set the phone down again and left for about five minutes 
and checked again. He was just hanging up. Bet he was pissed.

Maybe that's why "Abe" doesn't like me. He must have been that 
telemarketer... 




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"C. Massey" <chuck@host.invalid> writes:
>I have been known to start the call just as they want, then just set the 
>phone down and walk away. Once I came back about two minutes later and he 
>was still talking. Set the phone down again and left for about five minutes 
>and checked again. He was just hanging up. Bet he was pissed.

As soon as you know its a telemarketer, try to sell them something.

Telemarketer: I don't want any of your crappy calendars!

Me-in-my-best-Apu-voice: Thank you, come again. <hang up>

-Mike

"Porgy Tirebiter" <biteme@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:zLO%g.9$wX.8@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>
> You guys are missing the opportunity to have fun at THIER expense!
> Yep..thats right. keep a recorder connected and ready to go.When they call 
> have fun with them! I love to talk with them like i am 95 years old, hard 
> of hearing and stump-stupid hahaha..its a riot!
> Here is the ticket....screw up words bigtime...example.....
>
> Mortgage=mortuary
> Donation=Damnation
> Free offer= send it right over, THANK YOU! (then hang up)
> A good one...20 seconds into their speil....you say "HELLO!" starts them 
> over...and over...and over
> Try this one too...tell them to "Hold the wire! i'm looking for my hearing 
> aid" flip the receiver over so you can still hear, listen for the snyde 
> remarks hahaha
> Here is the trick, get them to hang up on YOU! you can do it!
> Dont be "nasty" just completely waste thier time.Keep THEM on the phone as 
> long as you can.
> Being "OLD/CRAZY" drives them completely nuts.I have had telemarketers 
> hang up on me, usually saying some like "Oh for the love of god!" before 
> terminating the call..
> Something like this is FUN.........
>
> TM= Hello, is this mr jones?
> YOU= this is mr jones........
> TM= good evening mr jones, i am calling on behalf of ugly women...how are 
> you tonight?
> YOU=What is your name?
> TM= This is David.....
> YOU=Hi david, i am 92 years old,i have no friends anymore, they all died 
> and so did my wife.Will you be my friend?(say this like you have no teeth 
> and or drunk)
> TM= er..ah..well....ok mr jones......
> YOU= THANK GOD! your a nice boy david, hold on a second david, my bag is 
> leaking again.....
> TM=CLICK!
> try it..its fun...you have nothing to lose and the collection of 
> recordings is a riot at family gatherings....
>
> When someone nutcase drops a truckload of lemons on your lawn.......make 
> lemonade!

One that works very quickly: simply say "Do you know that Jesus loves you?"
Unsettles them every time.

LT 

   I have been getting several calls a week about refis. Regular numbers 
show on caller ID but as soon as they talk I recognize and Indian accent 
and it often sounds like a very bad VOIP.
   I have to ask multiple times for their location before they get 
beyond naming a state. Even the it takes multiple attempts to get a city 
and street name (the funnies one said he was on W.245th St. in Modesto). 
They always hang up by the time I get around to asking for a number that 
I can call them at but most hang up after being asked for an address.
   By the way, the number that shows is never real.

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   A number of years ago I was going to Tahoe for a long weekend. I saw 
an ad for a tout offering a free week of baseball picks. Just for fun I 
called ( I would rather use the money they charge for more bets). It 
turned out that free week only came if one purchased the full season of 
football.
  I told them I was not interested but they called over and over and 
passed my number on to other touts. The calls ranged from polite 
requests to  to insults (You have a big decision today,asshole. Do you 
want to remain a fucking loser or start winning?").
   Nothing I could do worked be it politeness, yelling back or hanging 
up. Finally I started to think- I am in sales and am supposed to 
overcome objections. What objection can not be overcome? The answer was 
total silence.
   Next time they called I let him read from the canned pitch ,went to 
speaker phone and hit mute. When he finished I heard ,"so how does it 
sound,George? George? Are you there? Godammit, I gave this guy my A 
material and he walked away from the phone"
   The calls diminished and they soon stopped.
   For a while when annoying telemarketers called I would get their name 
and number and next time I passed a pay phone I would call the touts and 
give their name and number.
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Geoff Miller wrote:
> I'm the same way.  A lot of people just can't wrap their 
> brains around the idea that I don't have the usual quasi-
> Pavlovian response when my telephone rings.  It's funny to
> watch them squirm: "Uhh...aren't you going to answer that?"
> 
> I'm the one who pays for my phone, and the sumbitch is there
> for _my_ convenience -- not the rest of the world's.

Wow, based on that article, you've got to be the same Geoff
Miller who used to post to alt.peeves in the early 1990's.
Am I right?  Is it really you?  It's not the AutoGeoff, I'm
assuming.  (And should I flaunt the fact that I have such a
good memory?  Or is that flout, and not flaunt?)

   - Logan

C. Massey wrote:
> I have been known to start the call just as they want, then just set the 
> phone down and walk away. Once I came back about two minutes later and he 
> was still talking.

My number is on the do-not-call list.  So if they do call, I have a
surefire way to get rid of them.  I ask them for the exact name of
the business that is calling and the business's street address and
phone number.  If they ask why, I tell them I need that information
for the FCC complaint form.

For some reason, after I ask for that information, they no longer seem
to want to keep me on the phone to try to sell me stuff.  Instead, they
suddenly become panicked and desperate to get off the phone absolutely
as soon as possible.

   - Logan

Logan Shaw  <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> writes:

> Wow, based on that article, you've got to be the same Geoff
> Miller who used to post to alt.peeves in the early 1990's.
> Am I right? 

But of course.  I'm still around, blighting the net.


> (And should I flaunt the fact that I have such a good memory?
> Or is that flout, and not flaunt?)

*BLAM!*



Geoff

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				-- Vance Packard

Logan Shaw wrote:
> C. Massey wrote:
>> I have been known to start the call just as they want, then just set the 
>> phone down and walk away. Once I came back about two minutes later and he 
>> was still talking.
> 
> My number is on the do-not-call list.  So if they do call, I have a
> surefire way to get rid of them.  I ask them for the exact name of
> the business that is calling and the business's street address and
> phone number.  If they ask why, I tell them I need that information
> for the FCC complaint form.
> 
> For some reason, after I ask for that information, they no longer seem
> to want to keep me on the phone to try to sell me stuff.  Instead, they
> suddenly become panicked and desperate to get off the phone absolutely
> as soon as possible.

You must have smart telemarketers.  The ones I bother to ask spill their 
guts without a qualm.

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Cheers, Bev
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