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4 total messages Started by Tony Pham Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:46
Verilog <--> VHDL translators
#151
Author: Tony Pham
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:46
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Does anyone know of any good verilog to vhdl or
vhdl to verilog translators?  It would be quite
helpful for my school work at this point.  Any available
public domain tools would be a big plus since my budget
is limited.  Appreciate any replies.  Thanks.
Re: Verilog <--> VHDL translators
#122
Author: Masaharu Goto
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:07
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 I posted the same question a couple of months ago and got some information.
I am very interested in the same issue. I would appreciate if you would share
me the information you would get too.

 So far, what I get to know are

Commercial availability of the Verilog <-> VHDL translators 

	Cadence	VDOC-454	Verilog to VHDL translator
		 Cadence is the originator of the Verilog-HDL and it seems
		like VDOC-454 has a quite good coverage on Verilog to VHDL
		translation.  It costs $200k~300k.
		 It translates User Defined Primitives and architectural
		description very good.  Now, I am giving my benchmark example 
		to see how good it translates behavioral Verilog description 
		to VHDL. I will let you know when their benchmark comes out.
		 I am not sure if they have VHDL to Verilog translator.

	InterHDL	Verilog <-> VHDL translator
		 A company called InterHDL has Verilog to VHDL and VHDL to 
		Verilog translator. I don't have any further information
		about their products now.

	Synopsys
		 If the Verilog or VHDL description is logic synthesizable
		(means written in Register Transfer Level), Synopsys can do 
		the job too.  It means it can only translate subset of the
		language.


 I didn't get any information about public domain Verilog <-> VHDL translator
so far. I imagine there are no such things because there are very  few
people in this planet who has an access to both Verilog and VHDL based 
simulator at this moment.

 My own observation and comment about the issue is, language definition of 
the Verilog-HDL is closely related to implementation of the Verilog-XL 
simulator. And some of its' features are not essential to describe Hardware
but essential to speed up simulation throughput. On the other hand, VHDL
is more pure for describing Hardware. I think somebody needs to work out
to accumurate those differences to make a good translator.
 I am not sure if this is very realistic but it would be very nice that 
somebody in the world defines subset of those language for portability of 
the HDL description.
Re: Verilog <--> VHDL translators
#126
Author: George Lippincott
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:42
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gotom@hpysoln.tky.hp.com (Masaharu Goto) writes:



>Commercial availability of the Verilog <-> VHDL translators 

>	Cadence	VDOC-454	Verilog to VHDL translator
>		 Cadence is the originator of the Verilog-HDL and it seems
>		like VDOC-454 has a quite good coverage on Verilog to VHDL
>		translation.  It costs $200k~300k.
>		 It translates User Defined Primitives and architectural
>		description very good.  Now, I am giving my benchmark example 
>		to see how good it translates behavioral Verilog description 
>		to VHDL. I will let you know when their benchmark comes out.
>		 I am not sure if they have VHDL to Verilog translator.

   Does anyone know what this tool does with the "tran" primitive?  I am
having difficulty finding a way to model this in VHDL.

--
George Lippincott
Re: Verilog <--> VHDL translators
#127
Author: Masaharu Goto
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:46
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 I have a couple of corrections to my previous responce.

 The cost of VDOC-454 is not $200k~$300k,  but it is $20k~$30k. I mixed up
when I convert it from yen to $.

 Second. A guy from InterHDL tell me that they have only Verilog to VHDL 
convertor. I believe somebody gave me information that they have the other
way translator, but it may be a misunderstanding.
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