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In article <3312DABF.4911@cyberstrider.org>,
Denesh Bhabuta <denesh@cyberstrider.org> wrote:

>Any more ideas on what it could be or any suggestions as to some cheaper 
>repair company in the London area?

Sounds like the battery to me. Have you checked that?

In article <3312DABF.4911@cyberstrider.org>, Denesh Bhabuta
<denesh@cyberstrider.org> wrote:

> Duff Mac :-(((
> 
> I've recently tried switching on my mac performa 6200 one evening and 
> everyday since.. and nothing. :(((((
> 
> It worked fine at lunch time on the day... and the monitor is fine 
> (plugs directly into the wall). I even tried different leads (ones which 
> work) and not even a sound from the Mac.
> 
> Aaarrgghh.. the last time I backed up onto EZ carts was about 3 or so 
> weeks ago. :(( bummer The HD has all the up to date databases...
> 
> I have phoned Gasteiner, and they have quoted me:
> 
> Diagnose: 25.00 +vat (refunded if repairs to take place)
> Labour: 45.00 + vat per hour
> Motherboard exchange: 195.00 +vat (if motherboard is found to be faulty)
> PSU exchange: 115.00 + vat (if PSU faulty)
> 
> Argh. I can do without this hassle....
> 
> Any more ideas on what it could be or any suggestions as to some cheaper 
> repair company in the London area?
> 
> Regards
> Danny
> -- 
> Denesh Bhabuta (Danny)                    http://www.cyberstrider.org
> denesh@cyberstrider.org ;  denesh@bhabuta.co.uk  ; dbhabuta@cix.co.uk

This is only a suggestion and probably a total waste of time but the good
ole battery for your control panels, clock etc may cause a problem.  I've
only got exp[erience of it happening on LC475 and Quadra 660 at about 3
years old but it results in the equivalent of a full blown system
failure.  Not a sad Mac or smiley Mac in sight.

I guess you tried booting from the emergency disk or CD?

Adrian

aaron wrote:
> 
> In article <3312DABF.4911@cyberstrider.org>, Denesh Bhabuta
> <denesh@cyberstrider.org> wrote:
> 
> > I've recently tried switching on my mac performa 6200 one evening and
> > everyday since.. and nothing. :(((((
> >
> > It worked fine at lunch time on the day... and the monitor is fine
> > (plugs directly into the wall). I even tried different leads (ones which
> > work) and not even a sound from the Mac.

> It's a wild-ass-guess, but try replacing the battery- the symptoms of a
> dead PRAM battery match what you're describing (they also match the symptoms
> of a motherboard meltdown, but that's very rare and usually involves
> someone trying to clock-chip it waaaay beyond what it's supposed to do).
> 
> Go to a competent Mac store and tell them you need a new battery for a 6200.
> 
> It's usually around $20 (US dollars) here, may differ a bit in the UK.

I would also try checking the keyboard (ADB) connection, both at the
keyboard and at the back of the computer. If that falls out the keyboard
won't turn the machine on.

My 6200 battery died last week after a mere 17 months. Apple tech
support said they were supposed to last four or five years. It's a
Ray-O-Vac 840 battery, 4.5 volts, a square thing about the size of four
dice stacked in a cube, with velcro on the bottom to keep it in place
and black and red wires sticking out of the top which attach to a
special connector on the motherboard. $19.95 special order from Radio
Shack here in the States, 1-800-THE-SHACK, probably a little more
expensive from an Apple dealer.

My battery was reading 2.25 volts and the replacement will take a week
to arrive. In the meantime I made my own temporary battery by soldering
together 3 AAA batteries in series and splicing them into the connector
from the original battery. Works for me, for a while.

TP Enders

Peter McDermott wrote:
> Sounds like the battery to me. Have you checked that?.

Thank you to all who are replying to my posting. One question before I 
go and order a battery... can it be the battery even when nothing 
switches on? The hard drive doesn't spin up.. the fan doesn't come on.. 
nothing.. not a sound!

And is the battery the red thing toward the front of the motherboard on 
the 6200?

Regards
Danny
-- 
Denesh Bhabuta (Danny)                    http://www.cyberstrider.org
denesh@cyberstrider.org ;  denesh@bhabuta.co.uk  ; dbhabuta@cix.co.uk

Adrian wrote:
> I guess you tried booting from the emergency disk or CD?.

Boot up? Nothing spins up.. let alone booting up from CD or anything. 
:(((


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Denesh Bhabuta (Danny)                    http://www.cyberstrider.org
denesh@cyberstrider.org ;  denesh@bhabuta.co.uk  ; dbhabuta@cix.co.uk

In article <33146AD5.4A79@cyberstrider.org>, Denesh Bhabuta
<denesh@cyberstrider.org> wrote:

> Adrian wrote:
> > I guess you tried booting from the emergency disk or CD?.
> 
> Boot up? Nothing spins up.. let alone booting up from CD or anything. 
> :(((
> 

Something tells me there might be a reset switch on the motherboard, there
certainly is on some machines with the same form. Take the motherboard out
and (if it's there at all) it'll be to the rear of the board (port end), a
tiny red switch which you need to hold down for about ten seconds or so.

Worth a shot!

Huw

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In article <3314677C.58E2@cyberstrider.org>,
Denesh Bhabuta <denesh@cyberstrider.org> wrote:

>Peter McDermott wrote:
>> Sounds like the battery to me. Have you checked that?.
>
>Thank you to all who are replying to my posting. One question before I 
>go and order a battery... can it be the battery even when nothing 
>switches on? The hard drive doesn't spin up.. the fan doesn't come on.. 
>nothing.. not a sound!

Yes.

>And is the battery the red thing toward the front of the motherboard on 
>the 6200?

I've no idea. I've never had to replace one yet.

In article <AF3AFDC996683DE8@petermc.demon.co.uk>,
peter@petermc.demon.co.uk (Peter McDermott) wrote:

>In article <3314677C.58E2@cyberstrider.org>,
>Denesh Bhabuta <denesh@cyberstrider.org> wrote:
>
>>Peter McDermott wrote:
>>> Sounds like the battery to me. Have you checked that?.
>>
>>Thank you to all who are replying to my posting. One question before I 
>>go and order a battery... can it be the battery even when nothing 
>>switches on? The hard drive doesn't spin up.. the fan doesn't come on.. 
>>nothing.. not a sound!
>
>Yes.
>
>>And is the battery the red thing toward the front of the motherboard on 
>>the 6200?
>
>I've no idea. I've never had to replace one yet.
>
This does not sound like a dud battery to me, more like a failed PSU
(power supply). I had a similar problem recently which turned out to
be due to the video-out board failing short-circuit and causing the
power-supply to shut down as a safety precaution. I posted a longish
article about this some time ago. The symptoms are a complete failure
to power up.

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