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Melvin wrote:
> 
> I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98 perfectly
> however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the big F. After loading
> win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't shut down properly. Although it
> is an AT power supply, I don't get the screen "It is now safe to turn off
> your computer"
> 
> All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.
> 
> Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Melvin

"Melvin" <wizzer1@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98 perfectly
> however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the big F. After
loading
> win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't shut down properly. Although
it
> is an AT power supply, I don't get the screen "It is now safe to turn off
> your computer"
>
> All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.
>
> Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???

There is a patch from microsoft, which fixed some shutdown problems.


But i found that windows 98 does this 'wont shutdown' thing anyway.


if you wait about 30 seconds on the "windows is shutting down' screen,

then press the reset button and straight away power off, you are sure that
the filesystem is unmounted cleanly (so that it doesnt do a filesystem check
"scandisk" next time ) and that you wont power off during a write (because
reset will clear things away )



> Thanks in advance
> Melvin
>
>

Melvin <wizzer1@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98
> perfectly however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the
> big F. After loading win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't
> shut down properly. Although it is an AT power supply, I don't
> get the screen "It is now safe to turn off your computer"

> All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.

> Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???

There's a surprising number of things than can do that.
http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm
covers them all pretty clearly.

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Melvin <wizzer1@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:ZZ0Mb.5128$Wa.636@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> > I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98
> > perfectly however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the
> > big F. After loading win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't
> > shut down properly. Although it is an AT power supply, I don't
> > get the screen "It is now safe to turn off your computer"
>
> > All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.
>
> > Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???
>
> There's a surprising number of things than can do that.
> http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm
> covers them all pretty clearly.
>
>

Not everything- not one of them sorted my machine.

In alt.windows98 Melvin <wizzer1@bigpond.com> wrote:
> I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98 perfectly
> however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the big F. After loading
> win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't shut down properly. Although it
> is an AT power supply, I don't get the screen "It is now safe to turn off
> your computer"

> All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.

> Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???

> Thanks in advance
> Melvin

The problem could be hardware-related, i.e. I have an old CDRW that locks
the system when I shut down from Start menu. You can check by rebooting
with all drives disconnected except the hard drive, then shutting down
again.

But if that is the case, unfortunately I don't have a solution for it,
you'll just have to shutdown from alt-ctl-delete instead (which is my
preferred method anyway).

You may not get this one fixed. We tried a shitload of 
various patches/fixes/solutions on some 98SE machines we had 
and it never went away, although if the client left it for a 
minute or three before hitting the power it always came up 
cleanly, problem was resolved when they were upgraded to XP 
when they got new machines. Most of the small number of 98SE 
machines we had never had a problem, but those that did were 
"immune" to all patching. 98 is infamous for this.


Melvin wrote:

> I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98 perfectly
> however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the big F. After loading
> win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't shut down properly. Although it
> is an AT power supply, I don't get the screen "It is now safe to turn off
> your computer"
> 
> All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.
> 
> Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Melvin

"Hunter1" <hunter1@arach.net.au> wrote in message
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> You may not get this one fixed. We tried a shitload of
> various patches/fixes/solutions on some 98SE machines we had
> and it never went away, although if the client left it for a
> minute or three before hitting the power it always came up
> cleanly, problem was resolved when they were upgraded to XP
> when they got new machines. Most of the small number of 98SE
> machines we had never had a problem, but those that did were
> "immune" to all patching. 98 is infamous for this.
>
I'm surprised it is even mentioned as a problem--I thought it was supposed
to be that way.  Ive had 98se since it came out and have never seen the "now
safe to turn off" screen."  So Ive had a problem for years and never even
knew it.  Ah well, I guess I will live with it for a few more years.

blank wrote:
> 
> I'm surprised it is even mentioned as a problem--I thought it was supposed
> to be that way.  Ive had 98se since it came out and have never seen the "now
> safe to turn off" screen."  So Ive had a problem for years and never even
> knew it.  Ah well, I guess I will live with it for a few more years.


With most BIOS's, configured in the right way, you shouldn't 
see that screen anyway, it should just turn off, but these 
bastards just always used to hang mid-way through shutdown.

I don't think win98se show safe to shut down.I have 2 computers one with 
win 98 and the other with win 98se.win 98 shows safe to shut down but 
win 98se does not.
John.

Hunter1 wrote:
> blank wrote:
> 
>>
>> I'm surprised it is even mentioned as a problem--I thought it was 
>> supposed
>> to be that way.  Ive had 98se since it came out and have never seen 
>> the "now
>> safe to turn off" screen."  So Ive had a problem for years and never even
>> knew it.  Ah well, I guess I will live with it for a few more years.
> 
> 
> 
> With most BIOS's, configured in the right way, you shouldn't see that 
> screen anyway, it should just turn off, but these bastards just always 
> used to hang mid-way through shutdown.
> 

-- 



        *Magic Is Believing In Yourself*
            * If You Can Do That*
        *You Can Make Anything Happen*

Hunter1 <hunter1@arach.net.au> wrote in
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> You may not get this one fixed. We tried a shitload of various
> patches/fixes/solutions on some 98SE machines we had and
> it never went away, although if the client left it for a minute or
> three before hitting the power it always came up cleanly,
> problem was resolved when they were upgraded to XP when
> they got new machines. Most of the small number of 98SE
> machines we had never had a problem, but those that
> did were "immune" to all patching. 98 is infamous for this.

Nope, just SE. Didnt happen to anything
like the same extent with 98 or ME either.


> Melvin wrote:
>
> > I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98 perfectly
> > however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the big F. After loading
> > win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't shut down properly. Although it
> > is an AT power supply, I don't get the screen "It is now safe to turn off
> > your computer"
> >
> > All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.
> >
> > Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Melvin

AlanS <alan@*remove*.mrals.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
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> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Melvin <wizzer1@bigpond.com> wrote

>>> I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98
>>> perfectly however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the
>>> big F. After loading win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't
>>> shut down properly. Although it is an AT power supply, I don't
>>> get the screen "It is now safe to turn off your computer"

>>> All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.

>>> Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???

>> There's a surprising number of things than can do that.
>> http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm
>> covers them all pretty clearly.

> Not everything- not one of them sorted my machine.

I meant all the things to try, not that its guaranteed
to be one of them listed there thats the problem.

I had a problem with SE that way myself, and that
wasnt eliminated by trying all those systematically.

ME did fix it completely.

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:42:33 GMT, "Melvin" <wizzer1@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98 perfectly
>however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the big F. After loading
>win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't shut down properly. Although it
>is an AT power supply, I don't get the screen "It is now safe to turn off
>your computer"
>
>All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.
>
>Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???
>
>Thanks in advance
>Melvin

Melvin,

Try Start > Run and enter Msconfig. Under General/Advanced disable
fast shutdown. Ms increased the speed of some shutdown routines in
Win98 SE and one or more start before others finish, causing the
problem. This usually takes care of it. Although Win98 FE usually
needs the Fast Shutdown enabled. If  this option is missing or
ghosted then the patch has been installed.

Another cause is an AV program running in the background. If you
have one running all the time try disabling that feature, I believe
it's a Norton feature.

BTW The MS SE shutdown patch is considered a last resort by many.

Shutdown problems:
http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/#Computer

Try #2 under Startup and Shutdown Problems

Regards,

Bill Watt  
Computer Help and Information  http://home.epix.net/~bwatt/
E-mail address is fake to minimize spam.

"Hunter1" <hunter1@arach.net.au> wrote in message
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> blank wrote:

> With most BIOS's, configured in the right way, you shouldn't
> see that screen anyway, it should just turn off,

Only if you have an ATX power supply.
He stated he has an AT supply, these don't turn off all the way, and do
require the power switch at the end.

"John" <jhensleys@att.net> wrote in message
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> I don't think win98se show safe to shut down.
I have 2 computers one with
> win 98 and the other with win 98se.win 98 shows safe to shut down but
> win 98se does not.
> John.

Nah, they all show the final 'safe to turn off' screen on AT machines (and
wrongly configured ATX)
At least they're supposed to show the screen anyway...

Liopleurodon wrote:

> Only if you have an ATX power supply.
> He stated he has an AT supply, these don't turn off all the way, and do
> require the power switch at the end.


Agreed (and even then the BIOS may need to be configured for 
it, which it should be by default anyway), but was replying 
more to "blank"'s comments, he didn't indicate what sort of 
hardware he had.

Rod Speed wrote:

> Nope, just SE. Didnt happen to anything
> like the same extent with 98 or ME either.


Ahhh, ok, I went straight from 95 to 98SE, a shortlived 
expedition to 2000 and then to XP where I'm happy for the 
time being.

"Melvin" <wizzer1@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98 perfectly
> however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the big F. After
loading
> win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't shut down properly. Although
it
> is an AT power supply, I don't get the screen "It is now safe to turn off
> your computer"
>
> All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.
>
> Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???
>
> Thanks in advance
> Melvin
>
>
http://www.usbman.com/WebDrivers/Shut%20Down%20Patch%20Win98SE/

http://www.ccss.k12.nc.us/downloadfiles/4756US8.EXE  (shutdown patch)

Thanks to all those who posted ideas. I finaly downloaded the patch and the
problem is solved.

"Melvin" <wizzer1@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98 perfectly
> however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the big F. After
loading
> win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't shut down properly. Although
it
> is an AT power supply, I don't get the screen "It is now safe to turn off
> your computer"
>
> All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.
>
> Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???
>
> Thanks in advance
> Melvin
>
>

"AlanS" <alan@*remove*.mrals.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Melvin <wizzer1@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> > news:ZZ0Mb.5128$Wa.636@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >
> > > I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98
> > > perfectly however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the
> > > big F. After loading win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't
> > > shut down properly. Although it is an AT power supply, I don't
> > > get the screen "It is now safe to turn off your computer"
> >
> > > All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.
> >
> > > Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???
> >
> > There's a surprising number of things than can do that.
> > http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm
> > covers them all pretty clearly.
> >
> >
>
> Not everything- not one of them sorted my machine.
>
> Ditto for me also.
...Vi

try a couple of these

http://tinyurl.com/vnk

microsoft KB

Geoff

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> "AlanS" <alan@*remove*.mrals.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > Melvin <wizzer1@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ZZ0Mb.5128$Wa.636@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > >
> > > > I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was
running win98
> > > > perfectly however there was too much junk on it. So
i gave it the
> > > > big F. After loading win98se on I have found that
the pc doesn't
> > > > shut down properly. Although it is an AT power
supply, I don't
> > > > get the screen "It is now safe to turn off your
computer"
> > >
> > > > All I get is the splash screen Windows is now
shutting down.
> > >
> > > > Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem
???
> > >
> > > There's a surprising number of things than can do
that.
> > > http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm
> > > covers them all pretty clearly.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Not everything- not one of them sorted my machine.
> >
> > Ditto for me also.
> ...Vi
>
>

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> AlanS <alan@*remove*.mrals.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:btqbmo$p8h$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
> >> Melvin <wizzer1@bigpond.com> wrote
>
> >>> I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98
> >>> perfectly however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the
> >>> big F. After loading win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't
> >>> shut down properly. Although it is an AT power supply, I don't
> >>> get the screen "It is now safe to turn off your computer"
>
> >>> All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.
>
> >>> Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???
>
> >> There's a surprising number of things than can do that.
> >> http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm
> >> covers them all pretty clearly.
>
> > Not everything- not one of them sorted my machine.
>
> I meant all the things to try, not that its guaranteed
> to be one of them listed there thats the problem.
>
> I had a problem with SE that way myself, and that
> wasnt eliminated by trying all those systematically.
>
> ME did fix it completely.
>
>

A satisfied ME customer- that's a bit of a rarity- even M$ don't seem to
mention that OS much.

"AlanS" <alan@*remove*.mrals.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:bu678u$5hk$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > AlanS <alan@*remove*.mrals.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
> > message news:btqbmo$p8h$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
> > >> Melvin <wizzer1@bigpond.com> wrote
> >
> > >>> I have just formatted an AMD 350MHz pc. It was running win98
> > >>> perfectly however there was too much junk on it. So i gave it the
> > >>> big F. After loading win98se on I have found that the pc doesn't
> > >>> shut down properly. Although it is an AT power supply, I don't
> > >>> get the screen "It is now safe to turn off your computer"
> >
> > >>> All I get is the splash screen Windows is now shutting down.
> >
> > >>> Can anyone please tell me how to fix this problem ???
> >
> > >> There's a surprising number of things than can do that.
> > >> http://aumha.org/win4/a/shutdown.htm
> > >> covers them all pretty clearly.
> >
> > > Not everything- not one of them sorted my machine.
> >
> > I meant all the things to try, not that its guaranteed
> > to be one of them listed there thats the problem.
> >
> > I had a problem with SE that way myself, and that
> > wasnt eliminated by trying all those systematically.
> >
> > ME did fix it completely.

> A satisfied ME customer- that's a bit of a rarity-

Yeah, you need to know what you are doing
more with ME, particularly with drivers.

> even M$ don't seem to mention that OS much.

Yeah, but that was mostly because they had initially
decided that SE was gunna be the last of the Win98
line, changed their mind on that with XP being slower
to be available than they had hoped and so ME had
a rather shorter life than the others in the Win9x family.

Its a very viable product in the Win9x family, tho XP
leaves it for dead in quite a few areas, particularly
going for a hell of a lot longer between reboots with
a system thats left on all the time and used aggressively,
particularly with lots of instances of big apps like Access.
ME is a complete pain in the arse in that situation with
the resources problem that bedevils the entire Win9x family.