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Hi Tom,

Word97 does support Corel .CDR files, but only through version 6
and then with some restrictions (see below).  The MS .CDR filter is
an optional install item through Add/Remove.


On 1998-01-14 thomas.sheridan@gs.com said:
<< 7.0 clipart CD seems to use the file type .cdr, unfortunately -
    office '95 and office '97 do not seem to recognize (or have the
    filter) Corel 7.0.  Have you heard anything about this addition to
    office '97?>>

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The CorelDRAW (.cdr) Filter (Word97)
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The CorelDRAW filter (Cdrimp32.flt) supports .cdr, .cmt, .cmx, and .pat
files from CorelDRAW 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, and 6.0 and has the following
limitations:

 - CorelDRAW Preferences, such as page size/orientation, units, grid,
and
   guidelines, are not supported.

 - Lenses and powerclips are not supported.

 - Pages, layers, and groups are not supported.

 - OLE objects are not supported.

 - Rotated bitmaps are not supported.

 - Object and PostScript texture fills are replaced with solid gray
fills.

 - Gradient fills are split into monocolored stripes.

 - Vector fills are not supported.

 - Multiarea paragraph text is not supported.

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What would be the best format to store scans, logos, created clip-art
etc in? I would be dealing mostly with slide show and printed documents.
What would be the reason for say going exclusively with JPEGs or CDR
files. Can the various graphics sources be reorganized to create a
single source for both ease of access and possible disk space savings?  

Thanks in advance

tom

tom wrote ...
>What would be the best format to store scans, logos, created clip-art
>etc in?

If your not using them for a while, take a record of what files are what and
archive them. Personaly I use ARJ, but ZIP, LHA, ARC, etc are all OK.
Depending on the file format, you can get between 85% and 1% compression.
Alternativly get a Jaz or Zip drive (removable media, stores *lots* more
than floppies) or a CD writer.

>I would be dealing mostly with slide show and printed documents.
>What would be the reason for say going exclusively with JPEGs or CDR
>files.

Personal preference: if you add a JPG to a CDR file then the CDR file
increases in size by the origional JPG size.

>Can the various graphics sources be reorganized to create a
>single source for both ease of access and possible disk space savings?

Yes you can put them all into a single resource; there are several packages
like that, the one I know of came with my scanner (Paperport). No it will
not save disk space, the only option is to archive the files not in use.

>
>Thanks in advance
>
>tom

Glad to be of service

Gadget
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> 
> For raster files especially, I would disagree with this.  I think it's 
> much better to use a compressed file format. TIF (lzw) and JPG files will

> not compress at all with ARJ or ZIP, etc.

Correct, but you can run zip with minimum or no compression to archive a
bunch of these into a single file that's at least easier to move around
than a bunch of assorted ones.  If the source files are in a non-compressed
format, zipping them will effectively do the same for you as converting
them to TIF/Lzw, and faster/batchable easily.

IOW, depends on the situation.

Gadget wrote:

> If your not using them for a while, take a record of what files are what and
> archive them. Personaly I use ARJ, but ZIP, LHA, ARC, etc are all OK.
> Depending on the file format, you can get between 85% and 1% compression.
> Alternativly get a Jaz or Zip drive (removable media, stores *lots* more
> than floppies) or a CD writer.

I would not advise a Jaz or a Zip. I personally use a Zip drive. They are very slow and very expensive for what they do, more if you make a mistake in manipulating - say you forgot your Zip in the drive, then switch your computer off then take your Zip out, chances are it will be corrupted and you will not recover the data. This may also happen if your windows system GPFs.
Instead I would be looking for an extractible hard disk. For the same price as a Zip drive plus cartridge, you get five times the capacity and tremendously faster, plus better robustness (except for postage, very hard to mail a hard drive).

Cherio,
Al.

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On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:50:38 -0000, "Gadget" <Gadget2020@hotmail.com> wrote:

>tom wrote ...
>>What would be the best format to store scans, logos, created clip-art
>>etc in?
>

My $0.02 Worth:  

When I'm done working with a file, and it will be used on the internet, I save
as GIF (most images) or as JPG (photos).   If it will be used in Windows only
(for example, as a toolbar icon or in a power point presentation) I save as BMP.


Until I'm done, I save in my image editor's proprietary format  (UFO in my case
-  Ulead File for Objects).  If you're not done with your editing, BMP is also
an excellent default choice, because all windows graphics editors read and write
it,  because it does not lose image quality, and it because it compresses to ZIP
exceptionally well (often better than 90%).  

As far as ARJ vs ZIP vs RAR vs LZH vs ETC... I really think that's over
analyzing .  Just use ZIP.  Maybe you'll get 1% better compression with
something else, but is it worth the aggravation of having multiple compression
formats ?  Not too likely...  

BTW the reason GIF and JPG dont compress well is simple: They're already
compressed.  


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In article <34BF1CB9.CE7359B0@bigfoot.com>, Alain CULOS 
<Alain.Culos--@bigfoot.com> says...
>
>Gadget wrote:
>
>> If your not using them for a while, take a record of what files are what and
>> archive them. Personaly I use ARJ, but ZIP, LHA, ARC, etc are all OK.
>> Depending on the file format, you can get between 85% and 1% compression.
>> Alternativly get a Jaz or Zip drive (removable media, stores *lots* more
>> than floppies) or a CD writer.
>
>I would not advise a Jaz or a Zip. I personally use a Zip drive. They are very
> slow and very expensive for what they do, more if you make a mistake in manip
>ulating - say you forgot your Zip in the drive, then switch your computer off 
>then take your Zip out, chances are it will be corrupted and you will not reco
>ver the data. This may also happen if your windows system GPFs.
>Instead I would be looking for an extractible hard disk. For the same price as
> a Zip drive plus cartridge, you get five times the capacity and tremendously 
>faster, plus better robustness (except for postage, very hard to mail a hard d
>rive).

True for the external parallel port versions in the Zip family, but
the internal Zips can scream. Not as fast as a modern hard drive, true,
but easily fast enough for active use (working files) as well as a
backup device.

Zips are also handy moving large files between the office and home (or
taking delivery of large multimedia files, etc.) where a removeable hard
disk would be difficult to match between users (my company/your company).

Never had a problem with corrupted Zip disks or files, either, even though,
as a developer, I occasionally *cough, cough* manage to nuke the o/s.

-- 
Rich Webb  rawebb@erols.com
Norfolk, VA

In article <34BF1CB9.CE7359B0@bigfoot.com>, Alain.Culos--@bigfoot.com 
says...
> Gadget wrote:
> 
> > If your not using them for a while, take a record of what files are what and
> > archive them. Personaly I use ARJ, but ZIP, LHA, ARC, etc are all OK.
> > Depending on the file format, you can get between 85% and 1% compression.
> > Alternativly get a Jaz or Zip drive (removable media, stores *lots* more
> > than floppies) or a CD writer.
> 
> I would not advise a Jaz or a Zip. I personally use a Zip drive. They are very slow and very expensive for what they do, more if you make a mistake in manipulating - say you forgot your Zip in the drive, then switch your computer off then take your Zip out, chances are it will be corrupted and you will not recover the data. This may also happen if your windows system GPFs.
> Instead I would be looking for an extractible hard disk. For the same price as a Zip drive plus cartridge, you get five times the capacity and tremendously faster, plus better robustness (except for postage, very hard to mail a hard drive).
> 
> Cherio,
> Al.
> 
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> 

Sounds like you had a bad experience<G>. I think you may be talking about 
the parallel version which is a bit sucky. I have an external scsi 
version and it's just about as fast as a hard drive. Never had a problem 
with data loss.

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SYQUESTS
Where I work, we have used Syquest drives for quite some time, but at one
point, we became very annoyed with the company. One of our drives broke
down, and when we called about having it fixed, they wanted to charge almost
as much to fix it as for a new drive. The representative was so
matter-of-fact and unapologetic that we decided not to do much future
business with Syquest.

BUT -- we have been happy with the 3.5" and the 5.25" media. We especially
like the 270 MB 3.5" cartridges because of their capacity. All service
bureaus we have worked with support both sizes.

ZIP DRIVES
About 6 months ago, we purchased internal (ITAPI) Zip drives from Tiger
Direct. These drives connect to your computer like second hard drives, and
they are really great. They are much faster than the parallel-port Zip
drives. The average cost for these internal drives is $99. Because they are
cheap, we can afford to put on on each graphic design workstation we have.

ZIP DISKS FOR TRANSPORT
We use them in two different ways: transport and working archive. We took 6
Zip disks and created custom labels for them. (We called them "Overland
Transport Disks," and one of our designers create a Pony Express style
design.) Each disk is numbered, and whenever we send one out, we log it out
and record its destination. This really helps us keep track of them.

ZIP DISKS FOR WORKING ARCHIVES
We also use Zip disks for working archives. Some of our clients do so much
busienss with us that they get their own Zip disks. All Draw files for that
one client are stored on that disk. If it gets full, we archive the old
files to a new Zip disk or a Syquest.

We make sure each disk has a unique label. Then we use ROMCat to catalog the
disk. Everyone on our network can access the ROMCat file and locate any
client/design we might have on file. It works really well for us.

ABOUT ARCHIVE FILE FORMATS
Personally, I think the best archive format is native file format. Since
Corel has added file compression to Draw, we are able to significantly
decrease file sizes without using PKZIP or some other compression utility.
In just a few tests I ran, saving the file using Draw's compression features
yielded compressed files similar in size to ZIPped archives. Even if the
files end up being larger than if they were ZIPped, it is much more
convenient to access them as live files. Otherwise, we would have to unZIP
the file first, then open it.

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Gadget wrote in message <6a01v6$kvn$1@biffo.sol.co.uk>...
>>>> Alternatively get a Jaz or Zip drive (removable media, stores *lots*
>>>> more than floppies) or a CD writer.
>>> I would not advise a Jaz or a Zip.
>
>To digress slightly : What is the removable medium people would recommend
>for mass storage and transportation (eg. to printers) ?
>
>Jaz ? Zip ? CD ? Omega ? Tape ? ...
>
>Gadget
>gadget2020@hotmail.com
>
>
>
>

On Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:39:21 +0000, Alain CULOS
<Alain.Culos--@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>I would not advise a Jaz or a Zip. I personally use a Zip drive.
>They are very slow and very expensive for what they do, more if
>you make a mistake in manipulating - say you forgot your Zip in the 
>drive, then switch your computer off then take your Zip out,
> chances are it will be corrupted and you will not recover the data.

How do you manage to "forget your disc in the drive" ???      My ZIP
drive physically kicks the disc out when  I shut down Windows (95),
making it impossible to "forget" the disc in the drive ...   or are
you  perhaps just switching off instead of shutting down ??    (And
that, of course, isn't a good habit, as it can lead to other problems
with data.)

To be fair to Iomega, my ZIP has performed without a problem to date,
as have those belonging to people I know, and that includes the
imaging bureau I use.   The bureau's ZIP drives, by the way, take
quite a pounding, and hold up well .... although I must admit that
when I asked their advice about what to buy they strongly suggested
that I NOT buy a JAZZ drive, as they've had problems with them ....
they of course have to have as many options as possible so as to be
able to handle what people throw at them ..... if enough customers
have it, they have to have it too ...


Cheers
Frank


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>>> Alternatively get a Jaz or Zip drive (removable media, stores *lots*
>>> more than floppies) or a CD writer.
>> I would not advise a Jaz or a Zip.

To digress slightly : What is the removable medium people would recommend
for mass storage and transportation (eg. to printers) ?

Jaz ? Zip ? CD ? Omega ? Tape ? ...

Gadget
gadget2020@hotmail.com

As far as removeable drives go, I'd recommend your first investigation
should be what the printer's got, unless it's old technology. Nothing
works better than something compatible!

I have still got a 270Mb Syquest, but more often use a CDR. 

The advantage of the CDR is that it is easy to transport, relatively
inert to damage and dropping, and absolutely universal. 

I can fit a 40-page colour magazine including all CMYK scans on one CDR,
with a "burn" time of about 45 mins at 2x. Also, when I get the CDR
back, I have an instant archive of the job that is easily retrievable
(as opposed to, say, tape). 

The price of CDRs is so low now they are virtually a zero cost
disposable item when taken in the context of a complete print job.

Gadget wrote:
> 
> >>> Alternatively get a Jaz or Zip drive (removable media, stores *lots*
> >>> more than floppies) or a CD writer.
> >> I would not advise a Jaz or a Zip.
> 
> To digress slightly : What is the removable medium people would recommend
> for mass storage and transportation (eg. to printers) ?
> 
> Jaz ? Zip ? CD ? Omega ? Tape ? ...
> 
> Gadget
> gadget2020@hotmail.com

> 
> How do you manage to "forget your disc in the drive" ???      My ZIP
> drive physically kicks the disc out when  I shut down Windows (95),
> making it impossible to "forget" the disc in the drive ...   

Mine doesn't on any of the machines around here, parallel or scsi ZIP. 
Then again, I don't install the IOMega software on the SCSI machines, since
it's not needed.  That may have something to do with it.  Under NT, you can
get everybody's shorts in a bunch if you eject the disk manually rather
than letting NT do it.  Weird, but true.

The first part of making that decision should be to check with your
printer.  If they don't have it, you don't want it.
I've had good luck with Zips and Jaz, both my own and the carts my
customers send me.  Forget about tape unless it's strictly short-term, the
other party has the same hardware and sofware that you use.  It turns into
a hassle otherwise.
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Gadget <Gadget2020@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<6a01v6$kvn$1@biffo.sol.co.uk>...
> >>> Alternatively get a Jaz or Zip drive (removable media, stores *lots*
> >>> more than floppies) or a CD writer.
> >> I would not advise a Jaz or a Zip.
> 
> To digress slightly : What is the removable medium people would recommend
> for mass storage and transportation (eg. to printers) ?
> 
> Jaz ? Zip ? CD ? Omega ? Tape ? ...
> 
> Gadget
> gadget2020@hotmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
>