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In comp.multimedia JethroUK <reply@the.board> wrote:
> I have just installed realone media player to listen to 'his dark materials' www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/hisdarkmaterials/ram/hisdarkmaterials.ram
> 
> it's a 2 hour listen and i was wondering how to save it to disk? Any ideas?

3 possibilities: first, analog recording, 
then, special software to record from the soundcard, forgot the name.
then, the ram file is a textfile, with the url of the media file, check
this first. Maybe http works too and the file is not encrypted.


H.


http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/

Grab a copy of http://www.goldwave.com/ digital audio editor, select the
input device to 'line in' and record. Its fiddly, and a large amount of hard
drive space, but should whittle down when you save it as mpg3. Once you have
recorded the lot, you can edit the file, chopping it into perhaps 30 min
overlapping segments or something.

I got Goldwave to help put analogue cassettes to CD (as I have about 300 of
them and my wife esclipses that), and have found it extremely good. Also
good for recording Christmas shows to listen to later in the week (when the
remove the streaming for some reason).

This is of course being presumtious and assuming you are using a microsoft
operating system. If using BSD or Linux there is bound to be something out
there for free, just grab it off freshmeat.net.

Baz
"JethroUK" <reply@the.board> wrote in message
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I have just installed realone media player to listen to 'his dark materials'
www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/hisdarkmaterials/ram/hisdarkmaterials.ram

it's a 2 hour listen and i was wondering how to save it to disk? Any ideas?

In comp.multimedia Baz <news_at_baz_dot_net> wrote:
> operating system. If using BSD or Linux there is bound to be something out
> there for free, just grab it off freshmeat.net.

Could you explain that a little bit more? I think you even dont need a
special program for this.

Thanks,

H.

Heiko Recktenwald wrote:
> In comp.multimedia Baz <news_at_baz_dot_net> wrote:
> 
>>operating system. If using BSD or Linux there is bound to be something out
>>there for free, just grab it off freshmeat.net.
> 
> 
> Could you explain that a little bit more? I think you even dont need a
> special program for this.

You don't. All you need to do is pick up the audio from your soundcard 
and save it to disc.

/usr/bin/sox -c 2 -r 44100 -t ossdsp -w -s /dev/dsp -t wav | \ 
/usr/bin/oggenc - -Q  -o /path/to/file.ogg

will save the output as an Ogg Vorbis file. If anybody's interested, I'm 
happy to post the Perl script I use to do timeshifting for Radio Four 
programmes.

vsound (http://www.xenoclast.org/vsound/) is supposed to be able to 
intercept incoming audio streams so you can process them digitally 
rather than as analogue output from your soundcard (and avoid using the 
soundcard - handy if you want to do two things at once) but I've never 
managed to make it work.


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Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@uni-bonn.spam.spam.spam.de> wrote:

>JethroUK <reply@the.board> wrote:
>> I have just installed realone media player to listen to 'his dark materials' 
>> it's a 2 hour listen and i was wondering how to save it to disk? Any ideas?

>3 possibilities: first, analog recording, 
>then, special software to record from the soundcard, forgot the name.

I'd put the special software as #1.  You could try "Total Recorder"
from www.highcriteria.com.   It's very cheap and does just the job.
You can record into .mp3 format or .wav for making CDs or whatever.

-- 
Ken Tough

thanx for all the input - streaming media cant normally be captured (that's
the basic idea), but i managed to get hold of a utility that will
download/capture virtually anything (including .ram files) - it's called
"Streambox VCR", it was developed years ago & 'Real' took them to court
about it, hence it's no longer developed/supported but if anyone wants a
copy i'll post a link (i'll have to put it in my webspace first)


"Tony Green" <tony@beermad.clothing.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Heiko Recktenwald wrote:
> > In comp.multimedia Baz <news_at_baz_dot_net> wrote:
> >
> >>operating system. If using BSD or Linux there is bound to be something
out
> >>there for free, just grab it off freshmeat.net.
> >
> >
> > Could you explain that a little bit more? I think you even dont need a
> > special program for this.
>
> You don't. All you need to do is pick up the audio from your soundcard
> and save it to disc.
>
> /usr/bin/sox -c 2 -r 44100 -t ossdsp -w -s /dev/dsp -t wav | \
> /usr/bin/oggenc - -Q  -o /path/to/file.ogg
>
> will save the output as an Ogg Vorbis file. If anybody's interested, I'm
> happy to post the Perl script I use to do timeshifting for Radio Four
> programmes.
>
> vsound (http://www.xenoclast.org/vsound/) is supposed to be able to
> intercept incoming audio streams so you can process them digitally
> rather than as analogue output from your soundcard (and avoid using the
> soundcard - handy if you want to do two things at once) but I've never
> managed to make it work.
>
>
> --
> Tony Green
> Please remove .clothing to reply http://www.beermad.org.uk/
> No Micro$oft products were used in the generation of this communication
> *** A little something to keep the CIA spooks at Echelon busy: Overthrow
> capitalism, Palestine
>

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  Baz
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In comp.multimedia JethroUK <reply@the.board> wrote:
> thanx for all the input - streaming media cant normally be captured (that's
> the basic idea), but i managed to get hold of a utility that will
> download/capture virtually anything (including .ram files) - it's called
> "Streambox VCR", it was developed years ago & 'Real' took them to court

Yepp, the famous "streambox" case...never realised why this was a
circumvention. RTSP isnt a technical measure in the sense of DMCA, it is
just a protocol with some usefull features for streaming, timelines with
video on demand, network load etc...

Remove spam.spam.spam if you live in the US.

H.

In uk.media.radio.misc Tony Green <tony@beermad.clothing.co.uk> wrote:
> vsound (http://www.xenoclast.org/vsound/) is supposed to be able to 
> intercept incoming audio streams so you can process them digitally 
> rather than as analogue output from your soundcard (and avoid using the 
> soundcard - handy if you want to do two things at once) but I've never 
> managed to make it work.

I pulled this down and applied the 0.5.5 patch and it works fine - been
experiemnting capturing bits of BBC7 and 6music - and knocked up a
little shellscript wrapper round realplayer so by default it records
each grab to a uniquely-named WAV file. Nice piece of kit - ta for
the pointer.

pete
-- 
pete@fenelon.com "there's no room for enigmas in built-up areas" HMHB

In comp.multimedia Tony Green <tony@beermad.clothing.co.uk> wrote:
> /usr/bin/oggenc - -Q  -o /path/to/file.ogg
> 
> will save the output as an Ogg Vorbis file. If anybody's interested, I'm 
> happy to post the Perl script I use to do timeshifting for Radio Four 
> programmes.

For the archives ;-) !!

Thanks!

But I am on FreeBSD and my soundcard driver is half broken.
Btw, why do you suggest using ogg? I wish the project success, but I am
not so completely convinced that it makes things better. Maybe for big
companies with many listeners, where the mp3 licenses might be applied.
Has anybody ever payed?

But in general, I think it is like the gif case. In theory, it is not open
source and free, they sold a patent to Thomson, but in reality?


H.

Pete Fenelon wrote:
> In uk.media.radio.misc Tony Green <tony@beermad.clothing.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>>vsound (http://www.xenoclast.org/vsound/) is supposed to be able to 
>>intercept incoming audio streams so you can process them digitally 
>>rather than as analogue output from your soundcard (and avoid using the 
>>soundcard - handy if you want to do two things at once) but I've never 
>>managed to make it work.
> 
> 
> I pulled this down and applied the 0.5.5 patch and it works fine - been
> experiemnting capturing bits of BBC7 and 6music - and knocked up a
> little shellscript wrapper round realplayer so by default it records
> each grab to a uniquely-named WAV file. Nice piece of kit - ta for
> the pointer.
> 

Sounds like I need to have another play with it myself.

Which version of Real Player are you using? Realplayer 8 or Real 1?

I'm planning to write an Internet radio tuner app with KDE and I want it 
to have a good time-shifting facility that won't touch the soundcard, so 
you can listen at the same time as recording a different programme.


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capitalism, Palestine

Heiko Recktenwald wrote:
> In comp.multimedia Tony Green <tony@beermad.clothing.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>>/usr/bin/oggenc - -Q  -o /path/to/file.ogg
>>
>>will save the output as an Ogg Vorbis file. If anybody's interested, I'm 
>>happy to post the Perl script I use to do timeshifting for Radio Four 
>>programmes.
> 
> 
> For the archives ;-) !!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> But I am on FreeBSD and my soundcard driver is half broken.
> Btw, why do you suggest using ogg? I wish the project success, but I am
> not so completely convinced that it makes things better. Maybe for big
> companies with many listeners, where the mp3 licenses might be applied.
> Has anybody ever payed?
> 
> But in general, I think it is like the gif case. In theory, it is not open
> source and free, they sold a patent to Thomson, but in reality?

The only reason the code clip I posted used ogg is that this is what I 
use, so I just cut and pasted it. My own preference for Ogg is that if 
provides as good (if not better) quality sound with a smaller filesize. 
I've seen 20% smaller quoted, but when I've played around with 
timeshifting 30 or 60 minute programmes from Radio Seven the MP3 
equivalent has been twice as big as the ogg.

The plan with the tuner project is that it will allow the user to 
configure whatever filetype they want - even .wav if they're desperate 
to fill up their discs :-)

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Pete Fenelon wrote:
> In uk.media.radio.misc Tony Green <tony@beermad.clothing.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>>vsound (http://www.xenoclast.org/vsound/) is supposed to be able to 
>>intercept incoming audio streams so you can process them digitally 
>>rather than as analogue output from your soundcard (and avoid using the 
>>soundcard - handy if you want to do two things at once) but I've never 
>>managed to make it work.
> 
> 
> I pulled this down and applied the 0.5.5 patch and it works fine - been
> experiemnting capturing bits of BBC7 and 6music - and knocked up a
> little shellscript wrapper round realplayer so by default it records
> each grab to a uniquely-named WAV file. Nice piece of kit - ta for
> the pointer.
> 

Success! I was missing the -t flag.

That'll be some changes to my time-shifting scripts (first time in 10 
years of using Unix that I've ever used the "at" command :-) )

Here's a code snippet to save disc space by saving the file as Ogg Vorbis:

vsound -s -t /usr/bin/trplayer -q -t 0:30:0 \
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/realplayer/media/fmg2.ram  | sox -t au - \
-t wav -  | oggenc - -q 0 -o /tmp/test.ogg

Replace oggenc with your favourite encoder if you want MP3 or something 
else :-)

I'm using the text version of realplayer (trplayer - 
http://www.linux-speakup.org/trplayer.html) because not needing to 
launch a GUI, it saves any problems with the display when run as a cron 
or at job. (the -t 0:1:0 allows you to tell it to run for a specific 
length of time - HH:MM:SS - which is also a bonus for timeshifting.)

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In comp.multimedia Tony Green <tony@beermad.clothing.co.uk> wrote:
> Replace oggenc with your favourite encoder if you want MP3 or something 
> else :-)

I think lame supports standardinput..

I really love l3enc. The first dos versions was for XTs..when everybody
had a Mac and mp2. Still usable with 8000 bits/sec.  
> 
> I'm using the text version of realplayer (trplayer - 
> http://www.linux-speakup.org/trplayer.html) because not needing to 

Same thing with mp4player and audio. Dont know how far they are in
incorporating ogg into mp4. mp3s in mp4s are ok with mpeg4ip, not with
apple etc, and I think there is something for ogg too, a special version
of mp4player or whatever.


H.


http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/ -- more trivia on mp4s etc

In comp.multimedia Tony Green <tony@beermad.clothing.co.uk> wrote:
> The plan with the tuner project is that it will allow the user to 
> configure whatever filetype they want - even .wav if they're desperate 
> to fill up their discs :-)
> 

Good luck! You seem to be much more advanced in england. Last thing I
heard was the wlan scene has got a church tower. We want the TV tower on
the Alexanderplatz. There is allready some digital tv anyway, for tests.
Not internet, but frequencies or whatever for the (same) streams.

May the better codec win ;-.)


H.

In comp.multimedia Tony Green <tony@beermad.clothing.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm planning to write an Internet radio tuner app with KDE and I want it 

www.beermad.org.uk is such a beautifull ascii site too, why KDE? ;-)

On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:36:30 -0000, JethroUK wrote:

>I have just installed realone media player to listen to 'his dark materials' 
>it's a 2 hour listen and i was wondering how to save it to disk? Any ideas?

Everyone else has given some sensible advice, but I'll add a few more
suggestions.

1) Buy the series on CD. It's available now from BBC Audio, either as
three separate CDs or the whole trilogy in one pack. Apparently includes a
few scenes that were trimmed from the original broadcast(s) due to timing
reasons. 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0563529288/

2) MP3ing a RealOne stream is all well and good, but you're going to end
up with a compressed form of a pretty low bandwidth stream. If you're not
too bothered with quality, by all means go for it, but in future you may
want to consider tuning into radio via digital satellite and recording
directly to your favourite digital or analogue format for later
manipulation.


-- 
Mark Stevens
http://www.insertdisc.com/

"...but you're going to end up with a compressed form of a pretty low
bandwidth stream..."

i've downloaded each part (72 meg) as is (.ra files not .mp3), off the beeb
site & i assumed this is the same source as was originally broadcast -
sounds fine to me - i was actually thinking of compressing them, since they
wont fit on CD as they stand


"Mark Stevens" <mcs@monolake.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:6af93vkus7f5m4t8o4lo10s7dup45a53n5@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:36:30 -0000, JethroUK wrote:
>
> >I have just installed realone media player to listen to 'his dark
materials'
> >it's a 2 hour listen and i was wondering how to save it to disk? Any
ideas?
>
> Everyone else has given some sensible advice, but I'll add a few more
> suggestions.
>
> 1) Buy the series on CD. It's available now from BBC Audio, either as
> three separate CDs or the whole trilogy in one pack. Apparently includes a
> few scenes that were trimmed from the original broadcast(s) due to timing
> reasons.
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0563529288/
>
> 2) MP3ing a RealOne stream is all well and good, but you're going to end
> up with a compressed form of a pretty low bandwidth stream. If you're not
> too bothered with quality, by all means go for it, but in future you may
> want to consider tuning into radio via digital satellite and recording
> directly to your favourite digital or analogue format for later
> manipulation.
>
>
> --
> Mark Stevens
> http://www.insertdisc.com/

"...If you can't hear the difference then you must be listening to the
broadcast signal on an old rusty tin can..."

Well sort of, i've only listened on my PC so far :o) which leads me to
another question you may know - I've been trying to find out if the
recording is any good - i've posted the only info the file has, and it
implies it was sampled at 64 k.p.s (which is a bit crap - it should be
double that) - but can you tell me if this directly relates to .mp3 sampling
rates (as regards the quality) - if it is = to 64kps .mp3 then i'll live
with it - bearing in mind it only talking


Stream: RealAudio Stream - Single Rate
File Name: northern_lights.rm
Last Modified: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 03:47:33 GMT
File Size: 71,524,836 Bytes
Title:
Author: BBC
Copyright:
Duration: 146:18.906
Buffer Time: 11.4 seconds
Max Bit Rate: 64.7 Kbps
Allow Download: off
Allow Recording: off
Perfect Play: disabled

Stream: 0 audio/x-pn-multirate-realaudio logical stream
  a.. MIME type: audio/x-pn-realaudio

  b.. Max Stream Bit Rate: 64.7 Kbps

  c.. Audio Codec: 64 kbps Voice (RealAudio G2) 44100 Khz
Player Compatibility: RealPlayer G2 or later




"Mike Humberston" <oblivion@philomel.net> wrote in message
news:h22a3vck6lt63pdc6i9htjbrpc9e3h90gv@4ax.com...
> "JethroUK" <reply@the.board> wrote:
>
> >i've downloaded each part (72 meg) as is (.ra files not .mp3), off the
beeb
> >site & i assumed this is the same source as was originally broadcast -
> >sounds fine to me - i was actually thinking of compressing them, since
they
> >wont fit on CD as they stand
>
> No they are not the same.  The RA stream's quality is crap.  If you can't
hear
> the difference then you must be listening to the broadcast signal on an
old
> rusty tin can.
>
> --
> Mike Humberston
> WARNING: Spam trap in operation. Send any e-mail reply to mike, not
oblivion.

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/video_tools/streambox_vcr.c
fm

make sure you read the unofficial instructions and download & install the
crack for it

it's not exactly user friendly, but after a 15 minute twiddle i found the
right buttons to press & it does work !! - i downloaded 7 1/2 hours of
streaming audio (which you aint spose to be able to do :o)

checkout the scheduler for large files, you can set it to download over
night so it doesn't clutter up your surfing
change the default retrys from 3 to unlimited (just to guarantee your
download will be there in the morning)


"Gavin Brelstaff" <gjb@crs4.it> wrote in message
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> JethroUK wrote:
> > "Streambox VCR", it was developed years ago & 'Real' took them to court
> > about it, hence it's no longer developed/supported but if anyone wants a
> > copy i'll post a link (i'll have to put it in my webspace first)
>
> Yes please do !

Heiko Recktenwald wrote:
> In comp.multimedia Tony Green <tony@beermad.clothing.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>>I'm planning to write an Internet radio tuner app with KDE and I want it 
> 
> 
> www.beermad.org.uk is such a beautifull ascii site too, why KDE? ;-)

Mainly because that's what I have on my desktop and I like the Qt widget 
set and because KDE has a pretty good IDE and is well documented..

I've tried writing GUIs with GTk, but I could never get it to release 
memory properly - probably more to do with not being able to find much 
in the way of documentation. I certainly wouldn't want to try to do 
another GUI in Java either - horrible language.

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On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:24:38 -0000, "JethroUK" <reply@the.board>
wrote:

>thanx for all the input - streaming media cant normally be captured (that's
>the basic idea), but i managed to get hold of a utility that will
>download/capture virtually anything (including .ram files) - it's called
>"Streambox VCR", it was developed years ago & 'Real' took them to court
>about it, hence it's no longer developed/supported but if anyone wants a
>copy i'll post a link (i'll have to put it in my webspace first)

Have a look for Streambox Ripper as well (even rarer) as it takes the
resulting .RA and converts it MP3.

thankyou thankyou thankyou i tried a couple of convertors but not very
successfully....streambox ripper is the kiddy - got more features than i
need...dead dead easy to use too (drag n drop).....funnily enough it was
sorta easy to find - loads of sites had it - but...an a bloody big
'but'...there are lots versions around....first 2 i tried needed licence
(which you cant get now)...second three i tried "dont support .ra files any
longer" (must've been when real started putting the squeeze on)...finally a
found a version that works peachy....plus, this version doesn't need an
install....just click n go :o) - thanx again for the tip


"A.N.Other" <fred@any.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:24:38 -0000, "JethroUK" <reply@the.board>
> wrote:
>
> >thanx for all the input - streaming media cant normally be captured
(that's
> >the basic idea), but i managed to get hold of a utility that will
> >download/capture virtually anything (including .ram files) - it's called
> >"Streambox VCR", it was developed years ago & 'Real' took them to court
> >about it, hence it's no longer developed/supported but if anyone wants a
> >copy i'll post a link (i'll have to put it in my webspace first)
>
> Have a look for Streambox Ripper as well (even rarer) as it takes the
> resulting .RA and converts it MP3.
>

JethroUK wrote:
> thankyou thankyou thankyou i tried a couple of convertors but not very
> successfully....streambox ripper is the kiddy - got more features than i
> need...dead dead easy to use too (drag n drop).....funnily enough it was
> sorta easy to find - loads of sites had it - but...an a bloody big
> 'but'...there are lots versions around....first 2 i tried needed licence
> (which you cant get now)...second three i tried "dont support .ra files any
> longer" (must've been when real started putting the squeeze on)...finally a
> found a version that works peachy....plus, this version doesn't need an
> install....just click n go :o) - thanx again for the tip

Where did you find the version that doesn't need an install?

I'd like to give that one a try as the installer ones don't want to work 
on Linux under Wine - there's just a chance that one might.

TIA

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JethroUK <reply@the.board> wrote:

> thankyou thankyou thankyou i tried a couple of convertors but not very
> successfully....streambox ripper is the kiddy - got more features than i
> need...dead dead easy to use too (drag n drop).....funnily enough it was
> sorta easy to find - loads of sites had it - but...an a bloody big
> 'but'...there are lots versions around....first 2 i tried needed licence
> (which you cant get now)...second three i tried "dont support .ra files any
> longer" (must've been when real started putting the squeeze on)...finally a
> found a version that works peachy....plus, this version doesn't need an
> install....just click n go :o) - thanx again for the tip
> 

Hiya,

Which version is this?  I've tried v2.007 and v1.0.0.1, neither of which
seem to take .ra files :-(


.s

i downloaded so many versions i fergot which one works - and it's this one:

http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/stream/stream.htm


"scott" <blah@not-in-my-trousers-you-dont.org> wrote in message
news:1fphzyq.ejth6mv9fiwwN%blah@not-in-my-trousers-you-dont.org...
> JethroUK <reply@the.board> wrote:
>
> > thankyou thankyou thankyou i tried a couple of convertors but not very
> > successfully....streambox ripper is the kiddy - got more features than i
> > need...dead dead easy to use too (drag n drop).....funnily enough it was
> > sorta easy to find - loads of sites had it - but...an a bloody big
> > 'but'...there are lots versions around....first 2 i tried needed licence
> > (which you cant get now)...second three i tried "dont support .ra files
any
> > longer" (must've been when real started putting the squeeze
on)...finally a
> > found a version that works peachy....plus, this version doesn't need an
> > install....just click n go :o) - thanx again for the tip
> >
>
> Hiya,
>
> Which version is this?  I've tried v2.007 and v1.0.0.1, neither of which
> seem to take .ra files :-(
>
>
> .s

"JethroUK" <reply@the.board> wrote:

>Well sort of, i've only listened on my PC so far :o) which leads me to
>another question you may know - I've been trying to find out if the
>recording is any good - i've posted the only info the file has, and it
>implies it was sampled at 64 k.p.s (which is a bit crap - it should be
>double that) - but can you tell me if this directly relates to .mp3 sampling
>rates (as regards the quality) - if it is = to 64kps .mp3 then i'll live
>with it - bearing in mind it only talking

Sorry, I don't know whether it is comparable.  AIUI, RA and MP3 use different
algorithms which have different objectives - RA was designed specifically for
streaming over the Internet, MP3 wasn't - so they may not be directly comparable
at all.

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